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lecorsaire · 22 January 2018, 07:29 AM

Hey guys,
I found a good price on what I've been waiting a long time for. Maybe a little too good (relatively small premium) considering the usual market price and being unworn with stickers and everything.It's from abroad but the card matches the serial on the rehaut. They look legit. However, even though I have enough experience to identify most fakes, what I've seen coming out lately has freaked me out. I've never owned a Daytona but have tried them on of course. IMO it's authentic. The font looks right to me but I'm aware of the 3 and 9 subdial spacing issue on fakes. For some reason the white ones look like the subdials are further from the markers than the black dial versions. I guess it's an illusion. Not the highest res photos, but let me know what you think. The watch won't last long and I have to make up my mind within the next day or 2. I'm really fed up of waiting for the AD to hook me up. Thanks!

kauffee · 22 January 2018, 07:36 AM

Even if the watch in the pics is real, do you trust the seller enough to ship that watch? Sending pics is easy. Why is he selling it for only a small markup?

You're in NYC so you have good international flights. Would it be possible to pick the watch up in person? Cost of the ticket might pay off in piece of mind.

And1dre · 22 January 2018, 07:37 AM

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Originally Posted by kauffee

Even if the watch in the pics is real, do you trust the seller enough to ship that watch? Sending pics is easy. Why is he selling it for only a small markup?

You're in NYC so you have good international flights. Would it be possible to pick the watch up in person? Cost of the ticket might pay off in piece of mind.

100% agree. Real pictures can be found anywhere.

Swashplate · 22 January 2018, 07:39 AM

Buy the seller...

DocHorton · 22 January 2018, 07:40 AM

It would be almost impossible for a fake to replicate the Rolex stickers, but as poster above mentioned, you may not receive the watch in the pics.

Make him set the time to 7:11 and run the chrono to 52 seconds and send you a pic with his name and date on a sticky note. That can verify he actually has the watch.

lecorsaire · 22 January 2018, 07:42 AM

It would be a local deal. No shipping so there's no danger involved. He has sent me pics of the card with serial. I'm going to call the AD and confirm early tomorrow morning.

R@lex · 22 January 2018, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by DocHorton

It would be almost impossible for a fake to replicate the Rolex stickers,

They do nowadays...

worldfamoussam · 22 January 2018, 12:34 PM

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Originally Posted by DocHorton

It would be almost impossible for a fake to replicate the Rolex stickers, but as poster above mentioned, you may not receive the watch in the pics.

Make him set the time to 7:11 and run the chrono to 52 seconds and send you a pic with his name and date on a sticky note. That can verify he actually has the watch.

I'm not sure why you chose those number, but I like them!

crazymcmichael · 25 January 2018, 03:36 AM

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Originally Posted by DocHorton

It would be almost impossible for a fake to replicate the Rolex stickers, but as poster above mentioned, you may not receive the watch in the pics.

Make him set the time to 7:11 and run the chrono to 52 seconds and send you a pic with his name and date on a sticky note. That can verify he actually has the watch.

the real stickers have to fall like apart or like dissapear when u putt them off right?
why impossible to false this?

Justinmg · 22 January 2018, 07:40 AM

I’m not sure on real or fake but I would not put that kinda cash down unless I was 100% sure it was real, not by letting people on TRF tell u it’s real or fake by a couple photos.

Justinmg · 22 January 2018, 07:43 AM

If they can duplicate a whole watch I can’t imagine the stickers would stump them, but what do I know

lecorsaire · 22 January 2018, 07:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Justinmg

If they can duplicate a whole watch I can’t imagine the stickers would stump them, but what do I know

I've seen some videos on YT with a Chinese guy using a time grapher and what they are now putting out is pretty scary. This is not like the garbage from a decade or even 5 years ago. With PM it's not so much a problem (weight is a dead giveaway) but it definitely is with SS.

AK797 · 22 January 2018, 07:44 AM

The latest fake of this looks very good so be careful guys. This one is real.

But as said could be a bait and switch so be sure of the seller and of any recourse you have.

lecorsaire · 22 January 2018, 07:47 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

The latest fake of this looks very good so be careful guys. This one is real.

But as said could be a bait and switch so be sure of the seller and of any recourse you have.

Thanks a lot! This is what my gut feeling was. Now I just have to make sure the guy is 100% willing to meet me at a bank or AD. No funny stuff and no shipping.

AK797 · 22 January 2018, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by lecorsaire

Thanks a lot! This is what my gut feeling was. Now I just have to make sure the guy is 100% willing to meet me at a bank or AD. No funny stuff and no shipping.

Make sure you have his details too. And post pics when you can.

Also run the chronos and check it all works.

lecorsaire · 22 January 2018, 12:29 PM

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Originally Posted by AK797

Make sure you have his details too. And post pics when you can.

Also run the chronos and check it all works.

Definitely. I'll check how the crown feels when winding, how the pushers unscrew, etc. I really appreciate everyone's comments and suggestions. It's human nature to be suspicious of strangers but there are still good, honest people out there and I hope this dude is one of them. Would love to finally get this watch.

RHIII · 22 January 2018, 08:19 AM

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Originally Posted by AK797

The latest fake of this looks very good so be careful guys. This one is real.

But as said could be a bait and switch so be sure of the seller and of any recourse you have.

^^^^ This

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WatchWeb · 22 January 2018, 07:57 AM

Buy the seller as well as the watch. If you have any doubt , walk away..

lecorsaire · 22 January 2018, 08:09 AM

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Originally Posted by WatchWeb

Buy the seller as well as the watch. If you have any doubt , walk away..

Definitely. I have pretty good intuition for the most part and have dealt with enough people to know when to walk away. I have always been suspicious when people offer something for less than usual, but it does happen. I've done it myself when I've wanted to move something quickly, albeit not something of this value.

SWISSAHOLICS · 22 January 2018, 08:06 AM

Small premium for a watch like this is too good to be true. Beware!!

4srolex · 22 January 2018, 08:15 AM

I recommend doing a FaceTime with the seller if he is willing not to just view the watch but now you have his contact information if you need to get a hold of the seller. The white dial Daytona sub dials are further apart than the black dial on the 116500

kzm40 · 22 January 2018, 09:20 AM

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Originally Posted by 4srolex

I recommend doing a FaceTime with the seller if he is willing not to just view the watch but now you have his contact information if you need to get a hold of the seller. The white dial Daytona sub dials are further apart than the black dial on the 116500

Subdials further apart??

4srolex · 22 January 2018, 09:55 AM

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Originally Posted by kzm40

Subdials further apart??

It’s an optical illusion because of the sub rings. I compared mine and noticed it. It’s been discussed before with other members.

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lecorsaire · 22 January 2018, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by 4srolex

It’s an optical illusion because of the sub rings. I compared mine and noticed it. It’s been discussed before with other members.

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I would love to have the set one day. When they were introduced, I fell in love with the white one. So many watches and sports watches in general I want have black dials and the Daytona is one of the only ones where the white dial works so well. However, I have tried on the black and I have to say it made me doubt which one I wanted more. While I still prefer the white dial, I would honestly take either.

If this falls through, no big deal. I'll keep looking and waiting. I passed on a black one before the summer for $15.5k because I really wanted the white one and spent most of the fall regretting that decision when I saw prices go even higher.

GradyPhilpott · 22 January 2018, 08:27 AM

If you have to ask us, you're already over your head.

Don't do it.

10klakes · 22 January 2018, 09:11 AM

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Originally Posted by gradyphilpott

if you have to ask us, you're already over your head.

Don't do it.

+1

Justinmg · 22 January 2018, 09:28 AM

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Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

If you have to ask us, you're already over your head.

Don't do it.

Great advice

mountainjogger · 22 January 2018, 09:32 AM

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Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

If you have to ask us, you're already over your head.

Don't do it.

Agree. Might turn out ok, but not worth the risk.

watchwatcher · 22 January 2018, 10:18 AM

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Originally Posted by GradyPhilpott

If you have to ask us, you're already over your head.

Don't do it.

Bingo.

nauticajoe · 22 January 2018, 08:31 AM

As mentioned buy the seller first. If it's too good to be true.....walk away!

22 January 2018, 07:29 AM	#1
lecorsaire "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: NYC Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 1,541	Quick legit check on 116500LN Hey guys, I found a good price on what I've been waiting a long time for. Maybe a little too good (relatively small premium) considering the usual market price and being unworn with stickers and everything.It's from abroad but the card matches the serial on the rehaut. They look legit. However, even though I have enough experience to identify most fakes, what I've seen coming out lately has freaked me out. I've never owned a Daytona but have tried them on of course. IMO it's authentic. The font looks right to me but I'm aware of the 3 and 9 subdial spacing issue on fakes. For some reason the white ones look like the subdials are further from the markers than the black dial versions. I guess it's an illusion. Not the highest res photos, but let me know what you think. The watch won't last long and I have to make up my mind within the next day or 2. I'm really fed up of waiting for the AD to hook me up. Thanks! __________________ Rolex 116710 BLNR Rolex Day Date 118238 Champagne/Batons

22 January 2018, 07:42 AM	#6
lecorsaire "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: NYC Watch: 116710BLNR Posts: 1,541	It would be a local deal. No shipping so there's no danger involved. He has sent me pics of the card with serial. I'm going to call the AD and confirm early tomorrow morning. __________________ Rolex 116710 BLNR Rolex Day Date 118238 Champagne/Batons

22 January 2018, 07:40 AM	#10
Justinmg "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Justin Location: FL Watch: PO/EXPL Posts: 3,371	I’m not sure on real or fake but I would not put that kinda cash down unless I was 100% sure it was real, not by letting people on TRF tell u it’s real or fake by a couple photos. __________________ //////////////////////////////// Member of The Nylon Nation Does it do anything? It tells the time.

22 January 2018, 07:43 AM	#11
Justinmg "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Real Name: Justin Location: FL Watch: PO/EXPL Posts: 3,371	If they can duplicate a whole watch I can’t imagine the stickers would stump them, but what do I know __________________ //////////////////////////////// Member of The Nylon Nation Does it do anything? It tells the time.

22 January 2018, 07:57 AM	#18
WatchWeb "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: John Location: UK Watch: GMT2C, Sub LVC Posts: 798	Buy the seller as well as the watch. If you have any doubt , walk away.. __________________ GMT2 Ceramic 2012. 2015 ”Hulk” Submariner. 2015 white dial 116520.

22 January 2018, 07:36 AM	#2
kauffee 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Portland, OR Watch: 116610LN, 116500LN Posts: 1,385	Even if the watch in the pics is real, do you trust the seller enough to ship that watch? Sending pics is easy. Why is he selling it for only a small markup? You're in NYC so you have good international flights. Would it be possible to pick the watch up in person? Cost of the ticket might pay off in piece of mind.

22 January 2018, 07:39 AM	#4
Swashplate 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: James Location: Seattle/Italy Posts: 659	Buy the seller...

22 January 2018, 07:40 AM	#5
DocHorton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: God Bless Texas Watch: Smurf, DD40, SkyD. Posts: 1,517	It would be almost impossible for a fake to replicate the Rolex stickers, but as poster above mentioned, you may not receive the watch in the pics. Make him set the time to 7:11 and run the chrono to 52 seconds and send you a pic with his name and date on a sticky note. That can verify he actually has the watch.

22 January 2018, 07:44 AM	#13
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	The latest fake of this looks very good so be careful guys. This one is real. But as said could be a bait and switch so be sure of the seller and of any recourse you have.

22 January 2018, 08:06 AM	#20
SWISSAHOLICS "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Here! Watch: Rolex Posts: 4,366	Small premium for a watch like this is too good to be true. Beware!! __________________ 16610LN \| 16613LB \| 16710 Pepsi \| 118238 \| 116500 (White) \| 116500 (Black) \| 116710BLNR \| 116610LV "The one thing I fear most is time; time waits for no one and leaves no options."

22 January 2018, 08:15 AM	#21
4srolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: West Coast Watch: Gears in motion Posts: 572	I recommend doing a FaceTime with the seller if he is willing not to just view the watch but now you have his contact information if you need to get a hold of the seller. The white dial Daytona sub dials are further apart than the black dial on the 116500 __________________ Rolex, Zenith, Omega, Tag Heuer When people ask how was your day? I tell them: "Same circus just different clowns!"

22 January 2018, 08:27 AM	#25
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK047 Posts: 34,460	If you have to ask us, you're already over your head. Don't do it. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

22 January 2018, 08:31 AM	#30
nauticajoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Joe Location: PA Posts: 14,774	As mentioned buy the seller first. If it's too good to be true.....walk away!

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