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BNA/LION · 24 January 2018, 10:41 AM

Our water bill spiked to $607.55 for service from 11/10/17 to 1/11/18! There must be a leak. Checked everywhere and sure enough on the side of the house the ground was swamped.

Started digging and remembered several years ago when we had a new fences put up the guy hit a sprinkler pipe when digging to put a post in. Fortunately I took pictures for future reference. I found them and they were a tremendous help. [I recommend you take pictures of all the projects you do on your house.]

Once I expose the sprinkler pipe it appeared the fencing contractor poured the cement into a hole right above the repaired line and it must have settled and cracked the repair. After a few trips to the hardware store... Bingo! No more leak. It will be interesting to see how much our water bill goes down.

cop414 · 24 January 2018, 10:51 AM

Wow a Larry, that’s crazy. I always take pictures when we have contradoing anything especially when things are opened up. Good job.

Laszlo · 24 January 2018, 10:54 AM

Nice job finding the leak!! That’s a huge water bill!

AzPaul · 24 January 2018, 10:54 AM

At least you knew where to look. Hope that's the end of it.

swatty · 24 January 2018, 10:57 AM

Good job Larry, great advice

RichM · 24 January 2018, 10:57 AM

Nice work Larry.

Are you on the hook for the bill?

BNA/LION · 24 January 2018, 11:13 AM

Thanks All! * This should be the end of it, I Hope!

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Originally Posted by Rich Mickol

Nice work Larry.

Are you on the hook for the bill?

Yup! The sprinkler lines are the home owners responsibility to maintain.

Quote:

Originally Posted by HorologyK

Call the water company and ask for a re rate. They should comply.

I'll give it a try...

GradyPhilpott · 24 January 2018, 11:13 AM

HorologyK · 24 January 2018, 11:13 AM

Call the water company and ask for a re rate. They should comply.

Kostas · 24 January 2018, 11:20 AM

Glad you found it :) , hate bill shock ! :)

G8RDPM · 24 January 2018, 11:21 AM

Water is expensive in Cali! Good job, my friend!

swils8610 · 24 January 2018, 11:29 AM

Had a co-worker with a similar situation. It was a fresh water back up on his sump pump.

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superdog · 24 January 2018, 12:16 PM

Holy cow. Glad you caught it.

That’s a big spike.

Canefan1 · 24 January 2018, 12:27 PM

Larry,any bill tha is way out of the usual and is due to a leak for whatever reason, the dept will just average your past bills and throw away the big bill. My ex has an xtra insurance to cover from the meter by the street to the actual house for such instances. Anything from the home exterior inward is on State Farm.

I hope Everthing works out.

GB-man · 24 January 2018, 12:55 PM

That’s insane!

1st amg · 24 January 2018, 12:56 PM

Nice work Larry, that was two Everest straps worth.

Rock · 24 January 2018, 02:21 PM

Leaking water pipes can be quite insidious as it is not always clear where the leak is located. They will often have been leaking for some time before you realise there is a problem.
I had one of these some years ago and my wife and I kept saying to each other "Wouldn't you think the neighbour would get that fixed".
Our water bill dropped quite considerably once it was attended to.

carwash66 · 24 January 2018, 02:48 PM

Been there with the Schedule 40 (white) PVC.
For the past many years only Scedule 80 (PVC) or copper pipe for underground pressure lines.
Will only use Schedule 40 for sprinkler and only from valve to sprinkler head.
Glad you got it taken care of.

bayerische · 24 January 2018, 03:00 PM

Smiliar thing happened to us.

We have a house built in 1935 on ground that used to be seabed. (We have a rising ground in Finland due to the ice age) ground is all clay, and water leaks into our small basement room that actually used to be the washroom of our house way back in the thirties. This has been going on for a very long time, and experts say it will not hurt the house. It’s one of the first houses built in the area with a concrete foundation.

Anyway. Our district heating system developed a leak, one of the circulation pumps imploded, and water began seeping out. We only realized this months (if not years) later when some electronics (control module) of the heating system broke down due to water damage from the leak.

We got the electronics and pumps etc on our home insurance, but I failed to realize 1000 cubic meters of water! Yes that’s 35 thousand cubic feet of water had sipped trough. I was left with the water bill.

RW16610 · 25 January 2018, 12:31 AM

I'm glad you caught that when you did, Larry!

RichM · 25 January 2018, 02:02 AM

[QUOTE=BNALION;8214251]Thanks All! * This should be the end of it, I Hope!

Yup! The sprinkler lines are the home owners responsibility to maintain.

Damn. Thank goodness it's fixed. Thanks for the update.

Abdullah71601 · 25 January 2018, 03:28 AM

If your water bill includes sewerage, they will usually remove those charges when you inform them of the leak. Pictures and the repair bill should suffice.

Langnam · 25 January 2018, 06:39 AM

I used to be on our water and sewer board. Frequently, a customer would want to negotiate a bill down due to a leak, or many other reasons.

No luck in our town. If the water went through your meter, you bought it. Both water and sewer if hooked up to sewer.

Good luck with the meeting!

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Cryten · 25 January 2018, 07:27 AM

I had a similar problem recently. It was a plastic "T'" joint. The kind of thing you buy in bulk to make it worth paying for.

The water bill and paying a guy to dig into the cement with a rotary hammer were extra. Luckily I was able to identify the location of the leak within a few feet.

24 January 2018, 10:51 AM	#2
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 72,261	Wow a Larry, that’s crazy. I always take pictures when we have contradoing anything especially when things are opened up. Good job. __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

24 January 2018, 10:54 AM	#3
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24 January 2018, 10:57 AM	#6
RichM 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Richie Location: "Nowhere Man" Watch: out now,take care! Posts: 29,781	Nice work Larry. Are you on the hook for the bill? __________________ "I love to work at nothing all day" TRF #139960

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24 January 2018, 10:57 AM	#5
swatty 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Peter Location: Sydney Watch: The Game Posts: 17,415	Good job Larry, great advice

24 January 2018, 11:13 AM	#9
HorologyK "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: USA Posts: 1,363	Call the water company and ask for a re rate. They should comply.

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Kostas 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Australia Watch: @ kostastimepieces Posts: 5,275	Glad you found it :) , hate bill shock ! :)

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G8RDPM 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: South Carolina Posts: 3,252	Water is expensive in Cali! Good job, my friend!

24 January 2018, 11:29 AM	#12
swils8610 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2012 Real Name: shannon Location: usa Posts: 9,211	Had a co-worker with a similar situation. It was a fresh water back up on his sump pump. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

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superdog 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Seth Location: nj Watch: Omega Posts: 24,834	Holy cow. Glad you caught it. That’s a big spike. __________________ If happiness is a state of mind, why look anywhere else for it? IG: gsmotorclub IG: thesawcollection (Both mostly just car stuff)

24 January 2018, 12:27 PM	#14
Canefan1 Banned Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: Homestead Posts: 1,247	Larry,any bill tha is way out of the usual and is due to a leak for whatever reason, the dept will just average your past bills and throw away the big bill. My ex has an xtra insurance to cover from the meter by the street to the actual house for such instances. Anything from the home exterior inward is on State Farm. I hope Everthing works out.

24 January 2018, 12:55 PM	#15
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,356	That’s insane! __________________

24 January 2018, 12:56 PM	#16
1st amg 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Real Name: nicholas Location: ottawa canada Watch: Rolex,AP,Panerai Posts: 10,410	Nice work Larry, that was two Everest straps worth.

24 January 2018, 02:21 PM	#17
Rock 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Rocky Location: Australia Watch: Grail:Bluesy Posts: 17,850	Leaking water pipes can be quite insidious as it is not always clear where the leak is located. They will often have been leaking for some time before you realise there is a problem. I had one of these some years ago and my wife and I kept saying to each other "Wouldn't you think the neighbour would get that fixed". Our water bill dropped quite considerably once it was attended to. __________________ Cellini 4112. Sub 14060M. DJ 16233. Rotherhams 1847 Pocket-watch. Foundation Member of 'Horologists Anonymous' "Hi, I'm Rocky, and I'm a Horologist..."

24 January 2018, 02:48 PM	#18
carwash66 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: United States Watch: Rolex/Tudor Posts: 1,421	Been there with the Schedule 40 (white) PVC. For the past many years only Scedule 80 (PVC) or copper pipe for underground pressure lines. Will only use Schedule 40 for sprinkler and only from valve to sprinkler head. Glad you got it taken care of. __________________ The Times They Are A-Changin' - Bob Dylan

24 January 2018, 03:00 PM	#19
bayerische "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Andreas Location: Margaritaville Watch: Smurf Posts: 19,879	Smiliar thing happened to us. We have a house built in 1935 on ground that used to be seabed. (We have a rising ground in Finland due to the ice age) ground is all clay, and water leaks into our small basement room that actually used to be the washroom of our house way back in the thirties. This has been going on for a very long time, and experts say it will not hurt the house. It’s one of the first houses built in the area with a concrete foundation. Anyway. Our district heating system developed a leak, one of the circulation pumps imploded, and water began seeping out. We only realized this months (if not years) later when some electronics (control module) of the heating system broke down due to water damage from the leak. We got the electronics and pumps etc on our home insurance, but I failed to realize 1000 cubic meters of water! Yes that’s 35 thousand cubic feet of water had sipped trough. I was left with the water bill. __________________ Yeah, well, you know, that's just, like, your opinion, man.

25 January 2018, 12:31 AM	#20
RW16610 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: Rommel Location: Toronto Canada Watch: 116710LN Posts: 9,205	I'm glad you caught that when you did, Larry!

25 January 2018, 02:02 AM	#21
RichM 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Real Name: Richie Location: "Nowhere Man" Watch: out now,take care! Posts: 29,781	[QUOTE=BNALION;8214251]*Thanks All! This should be the end of it, I Hope!** Yup! The sprinkler lines are the home owners responsibility to maintain. Damn. Thank goodness it's fixed. Thanks for the update. __________________ "I love to work at nothing all day" TRF #139960

25 January 2018, 03:28 AM	#22
Abdullah71601 Banned Join Date: Aug 2014 Location: Calumet Harbor Watch: ing da Bears Posts: 13,568	If your water bill includes sewerage, they will usually remove those charges when you inform them of the leak. Pictures and the repair bill should suffice.

25 January 2018, 06:39 AM	#23
Langnam "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: USA Posts: 971	I used to be on our water and sewer board. Frequently, a customer would want to negotiate a bill down due to a leak, or many other reasons. No luck in our town. If the water went through your meter, you bought it. Both water and sewer if hooked up to sewer. Good luck with the meeting! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ PLVS VLTRA

25 January 2018, 07:27 AM	#24
Cryten "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Terrafirma Posts: 2,655	I had a similar problem recently. It was a plastic "T'" joint. The kind of thing you buy in bulk to make it worth paying for. The water bill and paying a guy to dig into the cement with a rotary hammer were extra. Luckily I was able to identify the location of the leak within a few feet.

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