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Old 9 February 2018, 08:03 PM   #1
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Advice 15400/15450 on 6.8 wrist

I have a 6.8 (17.5cm) wrist and i am trying to choose between a 15400 and 15450 white dail. No AD close by to try them on so i will be buying the watch online. So i realy could use some advise so that i can make the right choice.

I have sub dates (ceramic) and a sub 14060m. I can wear both models fine altough have a slight preference for the 14060m sizewise for my wrist. I'm not a fan of big/oversized watches.

I'm leaning towards the 15450 but some YouTube videos with the 15400 on a 6.5 inch wrist is making me question again as it looked fine and propotional.

Its a bit hard to measure but i think the top of my wrist is about 2.16 (5.5cm) so i asume lug overhang won't be an issue with the 15400

Here is a pick from my sub on my wrist:

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Please let me know what you think. 15400 or 15450?
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Old 9 February 2018, 08:20 PM   #2
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I have a 6.9 inch wrist and the 15450 looked penny sized on my wrist and I wanted to take it off immediately. There are many people that have and love the 15450, but for my wrist size I would take the 15400 any day, every time.
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Old 9 February 2018, 08:27 PM   #3
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15450 is not proportional, that is a fact. Some people like a small and thick watch and that's OK. That doesnt change the fact its pretty thick for its case size. If you want a proportional watch the 15400 is better. Same thickness and 4mm larger. Or, better yet a 15202.

I would look at the overall proportions rather than just the millimeter size of the case.
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Old 9 February 2018, 08:56 PM   #4
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15450 is not proportional, that is a fact. Some people like a small and thick watch and that's OK. That doesnt change the fact its pretty thick for its case size. If you want a proportional watch the 15400 is better. Same thickness and 4mm larger. Or, better yet a 15202.

I would look at the overall proportions rather than just the millimeter size of the case.
I understand what you are saying. And yes the 15300 or 15202 would be a good option as well altough the 15202 is about 7K more expensive and 15300 is hard to get new. I have no problems with a 15300 second hand if i could see the watch in person. If i buy online i Always buy new.

Let me rephrase. Which model would wear closer. 15450 to sub no date or 15400 to sub date ceramic?

I'm simply afraid that the 15450 is to small/feminine or that the 15400 would look like i borrowed my dad's watch. I saw a lot of picks of small wrists with the 15400 and in my humble opinion many looked way to big and not classy at all.
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Old 9 February 2018, 09:33 PM   #5
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I understand what you are saying. And yes the 15300 or 15202 would be a good option as well altough the 15202 is about 7K more expensive and 15300 is hard to get new. I have no problems with a 15300 second hand if i could see the watch in person. If i buy online i Always buy new.

Let me rephrase. Which model would wear closer. 15450 to sub no date or 15400 to sub date ceramic?

I'm simply afraid that the 15450 is to small/feminine or that the 15400 would look like i borrowed my dad's watch. I saw a lot of picks of small wrists with the 15400 and in my humble opinion many looked way to big and not classy at all.
the 15400 wears big. I own both a GMT (pretty much the same wearing as a sub) and a 15400. The 15400 is very noticeably bigger. The 15450 from what i remember is actually closer to a 40mm Rolex.
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Old 9 February 2018, 10:31 PM   #6
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The 15300 fits better on my ~6.5" wrist compared to the other models. The 15300 is the most proportional in my opinion. That being said, the 15300 is hard to get, especially the blue dial, so I need to be patient in my search

For reference, here is the case diameter and case thickness for each model:

15202 39mm / 8.1mm
15300 39mm / 9.4mm
15400 41mm / 9.8mm
15450 37 mm / 9.8mm
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Old 10 February 2018, 05:49 AM   #7
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the 15400 wears big. I own both a GMT (pretty much the same wearing as a sub) and a 15400. The 15400 is very noticeably bigger. The 15450 from what i remember is actually closer to a 40mm Rolex.
I also have a batman and a 15400 and the AP wears significantly bigger. Not a bad thing, just an observation.
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the 15400 wears big. I own both a GMT (pretty much the same wearing as a sub) and a 15400. The 15400 is very noticeably bigger. The 15450 from what i remember is actually closer to a 40mm Rolex.


Spot on. As is your previous post. The 15450 proportions aren’t really true to the original design, but I personally prefer the thicker case (hence why I’ve bought Sea Dwellers instead of Subs).

My 15450 wears very similar to my Daytona.

39mm is perfect for a 6.8 wrist I would think, but not sure I’d pay the premium. Luckily I have a 6.5 wrist so didn’t have to make the decision!




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Old 28 October 2019, 09:27 PM   #9
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I understand what you are saying. And yes the 15300 or 15202 would be a good option as well altough the 15202 is about 7K more expensive and 15300 is hard to get new. I have no problems with a 15300 second hand if i could see the watch in person. If i buy online i Always buy new.

Let me rephrase. Which model would wear closer. 15450 to sub no date or 15400 to sub date ceramic?

I'm simply afraid that the 15450 is to small/feminine or that the 15400 would look like i borrowed my dad's watch. I saw a lot of picks of small wrists with the 15400 and in my humble opinion many looked way to big and not classy at all.
I have a 6.5" wrist and have owned a white dial 15400, blue dial 15450 (both since sold b/c of size) and now have a 15202, which I love.

15450: way too small and dainty (bracelet in particular is too narrow/tapered). It drove me crazy. IMO, it does NOT wear like a 40mm rolex. I hear this all the time, and don't agree at all.
15400: I could pull it off, but barely. Given that white will wear bigger, you have to be especially careful on a smaller wrist. It felt like a clock after a while.

I think the 15400 is ideal for any wrist that is 7" or bigger. You're right the borderline and it may look fine on you. You really need to get a hold of a 41mm RO and try it on before deciding.
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Old 9 February 2018, 10:16 PM   #10
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15450 & 15400

15450 on my wife’s 6’ wrist
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Old 9 February 2018, 10:37 PM   #11
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I have 6.5" wrist and the 15400 felt too big. Your making a substantial investment so you might as well go for the 15202. If you can find one that is.


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Old 9 February 2018, 11:42 PM   #12
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I have a 6.6" wrist. When I tried on the 15400 earlier this week (and put my name down on that loooooooong HK list....) I didn't feel it was to big. I have a flat wrist though, so maybe that had something to do with it.

But this is very, very personal. As long as it doesn't feel uncomfortable, and looks like your wearing a cuckoo clock, you should be fine ;)

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Old 10 February 2018, 12:07 AM   #13
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You can pull off the 15400 but if you’re sensitive to size then splurge on the jumbo. I have a 7” wrist and no substitute for the fit.
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I have a 6.6" wrist. When I tried on the 15400 earlier this week (and put my name down on that loooooooong HK list....) I didn't feel it was to big. I have a flat wrist though, so maybe that had something to do with it.

But this is very, very personal. As long as it doesn't feel uncomfortable, and looks like your wearing a cuckoo clock, you should be fine ;)

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Cuckoo clock on my 6.5 wrist


Looks great!


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Cuckoo clock on my 6.5 wrist
Ha! That's definitely no cuckoo clock. That looks great on you!

This is sort of what I was referring to (similar to what we saw hear in HK on a daily bases a couple of years ago...) ;)

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But as always; Each to their own

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Ha! That's definitely no cuckoo clock. That looks great on you!

This is sort of what I was referring to (similar to what we saw hear in HK on a daily bases a couple of years ago...) ;)

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But as always; Each to their own

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Have a 7" wrist and had a 15400. Loved it and then found it a bit too big. Sold and bought blue 15300, feel it fits and looks way better. Offshore wears different in my opinion, can't compare the two. I have a 42mm offshore and feel it fits and looks great but I really took issue with the RO at 41mm....






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Have a 7" wrist and had a 15400. Loved it and then found it a bit too big. Sold and bought blue 15300, feel it fits and looks way better. Offshore wears different in my opinion, can't compare the two. I have a 42mm offshore and feel it fits and looks great but I really took issue with the RO at 41mm....






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15300 looks great on you!
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Have a 7" wrist and had a 15400. Loved it and then found it a bit too big. Sold and bought blue 15300, feel it fits and looks way better. Offshore wears different in my opinion, can't compare the two. I have a 42mm offshore and feel it fits and looks great but I really took issue with the RO at 41mm....




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Yes thats what i mean. Both look great but the 15300 looks better and more elegant. Although the white dial makes the 15400 a bit bigger as well ofcource.

I cannot find a decent 15300. A 15202 is about 26K EURO while i can get the 15400/450 for 13K so thats a big difference. I think the ceramic sub date is the max i can pull so that narrows it down for the 15450. If it wears or wears close to the sub no date its big enough for me. My 14060m wears perfect on my wrist.
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Old 10 February 2018, 02:25 AM   #21
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I have a 6.75 inch wrist and have the 15400. It fits me fine but I have a flatter wrist and tend to only wear it when wearing long sleeved dress shirts. I don't like thick watches when wearing dress shirts for work.
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Old 10 February 2018, 03:42 AM   #22
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I have a 7" wrist and the 15400. Sometimes it looks too big other times perfect. I had the 15300 and thought that too small and I agree with texasmade. It's my go to when I am wearing a shirt.
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I have a 7" wrist and the 15400. Sometimes it looks too big other times perfect. I had the 15300 and thought that too small and I agree with texasmade. It's my go to when I am wearing a shirt.
This is so true for me as well. 7 inch wrist and 15400 is really on the edge in terms of size, while 15300 very often looks too small..such a pain! But what is bothering more lately is the thickness of the bracelet on 15400 and 15300.. I feel that the 15202 is the only perfect royal oak for 7 inch wrist.
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Unless your wrist is under 6.5 I would get the 15400, yes it wears big for its size but it's an AP and it should wear big and have some presence, small APs just don't make it for me, 202 aside.
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Unless your wrist is under 6.5 I would get the 15400, yes it wears big for its size but it's an AP and it should wear big and have some presence, small APs just don't make it for me, 202 aside.
True its not a dress watch. But a watch is like a 10K suit. If it doesnt fits perfectly and its to big for the person wearing it, no matter how expensive and beautiful the suit it self is, the guy wearing it still looks ridiculous.
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True its not a dress watch. But a watch is like a 10K suit. If it doesnt fits perfectly and its to big for the person wearing it, no matter how expensive and beautiful the suit it self is, the guy wearing it still looks ridiculous.
There are a whole host of brands who cater for smaller wrists, Patek, Lange, JLC etc, but AP is a pure sports brand, JA aside, and as such a small AP on a large wrist is the worse crime for me. APs should fill up your wrist, it should leave nothing on the field of your wrist.
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agree to first the first part, not so much the second.
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agree to first the first part, not so much the second.


+1. I dont even know what most of that meant....


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There are a whole host of brands who cater for smaller wrists, Patek, Lange, JLC etc, but AP is a pure sports brand, JA aside, and as such a small AP on a large wrist is the worse crime for me. APs should fill up your wrist, it should leave nothing on the field of your wrist.
True, its a more sporty watch so it should be a bit bigger but again not to big. and how big is big all depends on the size and shape of the wrist.
I do not see how i can wear bigger then my sub:
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I even think my submariner 14060m looks more proportional on my wrist then that one
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I'd hunt for a mint 15300. The 15400 wears large and the 15450 is too small.
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