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Old 23 February 2018, 08:18 AM   #1
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Why not Rolex? Doesn’t make sense

I typically don’t care what watch anyone chooses to wear, but being a person who notices such things, it baffles me that the two people below both choose not to wear a Rolex. I’m a fan of Urban Meyer and Nick Saban as leaders and highly successful people in their field and even try to instill their leadership methods in what I do in my job (I only cheer for the Buckeyes on the football field). Both men have nice suits, nice cars, and nice homes. So it really perplexes me that they don’t wear a Rolex. What makes it even stranger, is that they both wear the same $99 Fossil watch. Does anyone else notice these things or give them a second thought? What if Paul Newman hadn’t worn a Daytona? What if Steve McQueen hadn’t worn a Sub? What if they had both worn the same Timex instead? Anyway, just a random thought that’s not another Rolex supply rumor.

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Old 23 February 2018, 08:21 AM   #2
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Because they do not care about watches?
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Old 23 February 2018, 08:26 AM   #3
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Because they do not care about watches?
You would think, but people that don't care about cars still drive a Merc or BMW. You don't see many millionaires driving Kias (no offense to Kia, my wife owns a Kia).
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Old 23 February 2018, 08:38 AM   #4
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You would think, but people that don't care about cars still drive a Merc or BMW. You don't see many millionaires driving Kias (no offense to Kia, my wife owns a Kia).
I am guessing you never read the book "Millionaire Next Door" from this post.
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Old 23 February 2018, 08:42 AM   #5
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I am guessing you never read the book "Millionaire Next Door" from this post.
Good point. How would one even know the socioeconomic status of someone driving a Kia? Maybe we see a lot of millionaires driving Kias, and just have no idea.
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Old 23 February 2018, 08:51 AM   #6
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I am guessing you never read the book "Millionaire Next Door" from this post.
Perhaps they are millionaires due to NOT purchasing expensive cars and watches
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Old 23 February 2018, 12:06 PM   #7
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Why is Warren Buffet still driving that old Volvo?

BTW, I prefer my Fossil briefcase over my Mont Blanc on most days.
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Brace yourself...this is going to be shocking.

Some people actually don't think spending thousands of dollars on a watch is a good idea.

Gasp...I know. Blasphemy. There I said it.
This ^^^

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Old 23 February 2018, 09:49 AM   #9
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Old 23 February 2018, 08:41 AM   #10
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You would think, but people that don't care about cars still drive a Merc or BMW. You don't see many millionaires driving Kias (no offense to Kia, my wife owns a Kia).
Cars are different. They have not been made obsolete by some other tech. There is no substitute for a well made car which is exactly what Mercedes and BMW are. They are not really seen as luxurious in Europe as they are abroad. They are sold in lots of smaller engine configurations and also with cloth seats. I’m not sure if cloth seats are still available but even the S class could be ordered with cloth seats believe it or not.

When I drove across the German border into Basel with my dad, I only saw MB, BMW and Audi’s. I made a comment about this to my dad and he told me,” What other cars are they supposed to buy? There aren’t many other options.” The fact is that Swiss watches are not a necessity in this era they way they were 5 decades ago when you needed one if you wanted a precise watch.
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Old 23 February 2018, 09:01 AM   #11
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Cars are different. They have not been made obsolete by some other tech. There is no substitute for a well made car which is exactly what Mercedes and BMW are. They are not really seen as luxurious in Europe as they are abroad. They are sold in lots of smaller engine configurations and also with cloth seats. I’m not sure if cloth seats are still available but even the S class could be ordered with cloth seats believe it or not.

When I drove across the German border into Basel with my dad, I only saw MB, BMW and Audi’s. I made a comment about this to my dad and he told me,” What other cars are they supposed to buy? There aren’t many other options.” The fact is that Swiss watches are not a necessity in this era they way they were 5 decades ago when you needed one if you wanted a precise watch.
I think this is spot on. It doesn't take a car enthusiast to be able to spot (or feel) the difference between a BMW/Merc/Audi and a Camry. They are expensive because they have more features, comfort, and performance. They do many things better than a Camry.

A Rolex, on the other hand, tells WORSE time than a Fossil (probably). We buy them because we appreciate the engineering, the prestige, the history, etc. But, I think even we'd admit that they don't do anything that a cheaper watch doesn't do just as well. Therefore, those who don't really care about watches, just need something to tell the time and look a bit sporty.
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Old 23 February 2018, 10:01 AM   #12
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You would think, but people that don't care about cars still drive a Merc or BMW. You don't see many millionaires driving Kias (no offense to Kia, my wife owns a Kia).
Some millionaires don't drive a Bentley either. They ride in a Limo!
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Old 23 February 2018, 12:01 PM   #13
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You would think, but people that don't care about cars still drive a Merc or BMW. You don't see many millionaires driving Kias (no offense to Kia, my wife owns a Kia).
I remember seeing (on tv news) Bernie Madoff repeatedly being driven to court in a Kia.
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Old 23 February 2018, 12:14 PM   #14
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I remember seeing (on tv news) Bernie Madoff repeatedly being driven to court in a Kia.
I know a number of attorneys (particularly civil litigators) who have "court cars" that are fairly average. They may have Ferraris at home in the garage, but they drive Toyotas and Hondas (or Kias) to court. They don't want people - particularly prospective jurors who might actually be parking in the same facility as the attorneys - developing a bias against them or their clients.
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Old 23 February 2018, 07:10 PM   #15
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You would think, but people that don't care about cars still drive a Merc or BMW. You don't see many millionaires driving Kias (no offense to Kia, my wife owns a Kia).
not really. I know several filthy rich people who chose not to signal their wealth in that way. They are actually some of the cheapest living people i know. One is a lawyer made 25 million dollars (his cut) by successfully arguing a large lawsuit, and that is the only case i even know about as that made the local paper in my home state so im sure there are more. He drives a 60's VW bug.
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You would think, but people that don't care about cars still drive a Merc or BMW.
They do? Lease perhaps?

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You would think, but people that don't care about cars still drive a Merc or BMW. You don't see many millionaires driving Kias (no offense to Kia, my wife owns a Kia).
Not so sure....I have a brother who works for a very wealthy man (owns a defense contracting company in NY). His boss buys his clothes at JC Penney, drives a 10 year old Buick to the office every day, and eats microwave TV dinners at home every week night. I thought it strange at first, but that's just what he likes.

He does have quite the mansion though....
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What if Paul Newman hadn’t worn a Daytona?
Paul Newman actually RACED cars in a pre-digital age and maybe used it, as it was intended to be used, as a stopwatch, and not bling. So what?

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What if Steve McQueen hadn’t worn a Sub?
Why would anyone care what a movie actor wears? Do you mean James Bond, a fictional character? I don’t understand your question. What does it matter what any actor wears?

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You don't see many millionaires driving Kias (no offense to Kia, my wife owns a Kia).
Assuming you mean that the wealthy don’t drive “cheap” cares, this statement is not true, I guess depending upon the definition of "many". The most popular car among those making more than $200K/yr is the Ford 150. The other top selling cars are the Cherokee, Pilot, Wrangler, and Civic.

How about those millionaires? LeBron James ---- WAIT FOR IT ---- Owns a ----- WAIT FOR IT ---- KIA. Don’t believe it? Look at the picture http://ftw.usatoday.com/2016/05/rich...-nba-cavaliers Michael Dell has a $20K Boxster.

How about some billionaires?
Warren Buffet, Mark Zuckberg, Alice Walton (richest woman in the world), Ingvar Kamprad, and Steve Ballmer all drive “cheap” cars. Bezos is reported to drive a 2006 Accord. Laurene Jobs, a Audi A5. People buy what makes them happy.

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Brace yourself...this is going to be shocking.

Some people actually don't think spending thousands of dollars on a watch is a good idea.

^^^^^ Exactly.
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Old 27 February 2018, 06:00 AM   #19
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Why would anyone care what a movie actor wears? Do you mean James Bond, a fictional character? I don’t understand your question. What does it matter what any actor wears?
It would be nice if it didn't matter, because that would mean people could think for themselves and decide what they like based on the merits of those things. But we know that's not entirely true. If it were, there wouldn't be product placement deals, celebrity endorsement deals, corporate sponsorship - even advertising wouldn't have the impact it does. Popular culture would be a very different looking landscape if most people were not influenced by what they see others doing, saying, or wearing. Indeed, one might say we would be a very different species if that were the case.
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It would be nice if it didn't matter, because that would mean people could think for themselves and decide what they like based on the merits of those things. But we know that's not entirely true. If it were, there wouldn't be product placement deals, celebrity endorsement deals, corporate sponsorship - even advertising wouldn't have the impact it does. Popular culture would be a very different looking landscape if most people were not influenced by what they see others doing, saying, or wearing. Indeed, one might say we would be a very different species if that were the case.
So my question still stands. Maybe I should of worded it as "why do you care about what some actor wears". Its an actor or athlete. So what? They act or play sports. They might be talented at reading lines or playing a game. Of course I know they get endorsement deals. But that is a bit different. A golfer may be a brand ambassador. They endorse a product and hopefully they actually own or use the product. You know they are being paid to advertise a product.

I was talking more about what they do in real life. I don't know if Rolex paid Paul Newman to wear their watch. But if Joe Nobody or some coach few people have heard of wears some watch, I don't understand why anyone cares. What's the point? Is someone going to look at their shoes and say "Hey, that's not Nike"?

Maybe I should have worded it in some way about those easily swayed or influenced by others ... and end it some other way. Do they want to be "just like that actor"? Why?
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It would be nice if it didn't matter, because that would mean people could think for themselves and decide what they like based on the merits of those things. But we know that's not entirely true. If it were, there wouldn't be product placement deals, celebrity endorsement deals, corporate sponsorship - even advertising wouldn't have the impact it does. Popular culture would be a very different looking landscape if most people were not influenced by what they see others doing, saying, or wearing. Indeed, one might say we would be a very different species if that were the case.
Yes, they wouldn't be Sheepel.
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Brace yourself...this is going to be shocking.

Some people actually don't think spending thousands of dollars on a watch is a good idea.

Gasp...I know. Blasphemy. There I said it.
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Brace yourself...this is going to be shocking.

Some people actually don't think spending thousands of dollars on a watch is a good idea.
Quoted because I think it needs to be said again. Maybe as a sticky on this forum.

OP: Rolex watches are not the end-all, be-all. Thinking that, unless multi-millionaires like these two own a Rolex they're somehow falling short of their potential in life, is weird.

It's just a watch.
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People generally don’t like how much these coaches make, especially compared to professors and the presidents of the universities they work for. The football and basketball coaches are usually the highest paid. Under that scrutiny I can see why they would choose to wear an inexpensive watch, at least in public. Seems like the minority wears expensive watches.


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People generally don’t like how much these coaches make, especially compared to professors and the presidents of the universities they work for. The football and basketball coaches are usually the highest paid. Under that scrutiny I can see why they would choose to wear an inexpensive watch, at least in public. Seems like the minority wears expensive watches.


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What makes it even stranger, is that they both wear the same $99 Fossil watch.
Well, wearing a Fossil never makes sense, imo. However, if they'd been wearing performance-specific, inexpensive watches like a G-Shock, I'd say they're just choosing practicality over style for their work environments, and maybe wear nicer watches off the job. In light of the Fossils, though, I'm inclined to side with those who say these guys aren't watch people.
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"Doesn't make sense"? What a strange thought.
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Who cares if they wear fossils? I'm sure they have nice Rolex watches at home.
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