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debner4 · 7 March 2018, 09:30 AM

This past summer, I took a trip to Switzerland, and with a lot of effort, I arranged to buy a 114060 Submariner (no date) while I was on my trip (I decided that I preferred the no date version over the date version, but didn't give much thought to the Hulk because it wasn't as classic).

By way of background, I have several watches including a Patek Nautilus in steel (5712A), and wanted a Sub to wear primarily on the weekend and as a pool/ocean watch or just wanted to change up my look. I also have a Panarai 359 as a casual watch (with a date), so the sub was meant to be more of a "beater" watch for me when I didn't want to wear the 5712 or PAM 359 (I also have a JLC dress watch as well as a Bell & Ross time only BR-01 on a rubber strap).

I also wanted to add a Rolex to my collection, so this trip to Switzerland seemed like a great opportunity to pick one up in the motherland...

My plan for this particular Rolex was/is to keep it forever given the extra sentimentality of getting it in Switzerland.

When I finally arrived to the AD in Switzerland, they got the watch out of the safe and then their jaw dropped when they opened the box and realized that they had been holding a 116610LV instead (by mistake). I held the Hulk in my hand, but did not try it on. As I was doing this, the store manager made some calls and told me that my 114060 could be transferred to their store the following day, or I could buy the Hulk right then if I preferred? I chose to wait and buy the 114060 the next day. I've been thrilled with it ever since.

That being said, my favorite part of my 5712 is that the dial is ever-changing depending on the light. The starburst effect on the Hulk makes me wonder if I would likewise prefer that watch to the plain black dial of the 114060?

Recently, with the rising prices and limited availability of the Hulk, I am starting to regret not at least trying on the Hulk to see if it "sung" to me. On the flip-side, what attracted me to the 114060 in the first place was that I don't like the cyclops (although I don't hate it either), didn't want to have to set the date every weekend when I put the watch back on after 5 days off, and I like the low-key nature of the 114060 (as well as the fact that it is the original and pure-- in line with my keep it for life outlook on this watch).

The reason I didn't give the Hulk a closer look is because I thought green might be too loud, and also something I could tire of rather than keep forever. But now I'm starting to wonder if I made the right choice and I haven't been able to find a Hulk at an AD since feeling this way to try it on and see once and for all (and at this rate, I may never be able to do so).

So... loyal TRF people: Did I make the right choice by choosing my first choice in the timeless 114060, or should I have gone for the more unique, although more flashy (and $1,500 more expensive) 116610lv?

enjoythemusic · 7 March 2018, 09:35 AM

C: All the above :)

DLRIDES · 7 March 2018, 09:38 AM

TLDR

You bought your first choice, there is nothing to question.

Sarosh · 7 March 2018, 10:16 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DLRIDES

TLDR

You bought your first choice, there is nothing to question.

This

wach16 · 7 March 2018, 10:52 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlrides

tldr

you bought your first choice, there is nothing to question.

+1

DHPSU · 7 March 2018, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by debner4

So... loyal TRF people: Did I make the right choice by choosing my first choice in the timeless 114060, or should I have gone for the more unique, although more flashy, 116610lv?

Not trying to make you feel bad, but why in the world did you not even try it on? It’s one of the most sought after ss models, and for good reason. The nd subs are everywhere, the hulk is much less in the wild.

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debner4 · 7 March 2018, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by DHPSU

Not trying to make you feel bad, but why in the world did you not even try it on? It’s one of the most sought after ss models, and for good reason. The nd subs are everywhere, the hulk is much less in the wild.

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I keep asking myself the same question... hence the post.

TheRolexKingofLV · 7 March 2018, 09:43 AM

At this moment in the game, I would have gone Hulk at MSRP. Money in the bank!

debner4 · 7 March 2018, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by TheRolexKingofLV

At this moment in the game, I would have gone Hulk at MSRP. Money in the bank!

At the time (June 2017), the Hulk was not in as high of demand as it is today. Before I left for my trip, the local Rolex AD had a Sub, Sub date, BLNR and Hulk all in the case and I tried on the BLNR and two subs, but not the Hulk (thought it was too "green") prior to "ordering" the watch I wanted in Switzerland. Things change quickly...

Also, the goal was to not put myself in a position to ever want to sell, so even if the watch continues to go up in value, it is somewhat irrelevant if I never sell it.

Gaijin · 7 March 2018, 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by TheRolexKingofLV

At this moment in the game, I would have gone Hulk at MSRP. Money in the bank!

HL65 · 7 March 2018, 09:43 AM

I own both but I wouldn’t pass up an LV. It is such a special watch and the dial is unreal!

Krash · 7 March 2018, 10:08 AM

You made the right decision. Life is good.

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SemperFi · 7 March 2018, 10:10 AM

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Originally Posted by Krash

You made the right decision. Life is good.

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I agree.

TickTockChuck · 7 March 2018, 10:37 AM

I love my LVc, but based on your narrative I think you made the right decision to get the Sub ND. You seem to have more solid reasons for choosing the ND over the LVc. The LVc probably seems more interesting since it is in limited supply these days. As I said, I love my LVc and think it's a splendid addition to a collection, but may not be for everyone. You made the right decision. Enjoy and wear your ND in good health. Cheers!

casadecamporolex · 7 March 2018, 10:40 AM

Had the Hulk and it became the only watch I ever flipped.

drmizzou · 7 March 2018, 10:43 AM

You made the right decision - you bought what you loved and not what you ‘thought’ was the smart buy. It’s hard to predict demand - if the LV was readily available now and with no premium, would you consider it? If the answer is no then that should reinforce what we all know - that you made the right call! Enjoy!

Thuilln · 7 March 2018, 10:57 AM

You gotta love green to consider the Hulk. I wouldn't have tried it either, and I think you made a great choice by picking the 114060.

schoolboy · 7 March 2018, 11:02 AM

Even though it seems like fate put the LVc in your path, and you declined it, I do feel like you went with the watch you wanted.

Which is good

Thatguy · 7 March 2018, 11:38 AM

If there were currently LVc’s in every AD showcase would you still feel the same way?

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Drixonite · 7 March 2018, 11:43 AM

Green is one of my least favorite colors. Don't let others' opinions influence what you like.

ap1 · 7 March 2018, 11:44 AM

Man, this is self torture after the fact type stuff. Enjoy your sub.

Pst, mistake. Hulk rules

Yobber76 · 7 March 2018, 11:44 AM

If the Hulk was too green to you, then it was too green! Good choice!

Steerpike999 · 7 March 2018, 11:49 AM

My rule of thumb is to always buy the watch i want to wear over the watch i may get more for when i sell it. sounds like you bought what you wanted. Wear in good health

HogwldFLTR · 7 March 2018, 11:51 AM

Buy what you like and don't worry about what others think!!!

rebel_1 · 7 March 2018, 11:52 AM

I’m not a huge fan of the hulk. The 16610LV is a different story. IMHO, if you’re only going to have one Rolex, the SubC ND is the perfect choice. I had this one for a year or so. I only flipped it because I had too many subs. It very comfortable to wear. If I ever get another sub, it will be that one.

AK797 · 7 March 2018, 12:00 PM

Never doubt. Never regret. Never go back.

... But yes, pretty dumb.

Carrots · 7 March 2018, 12:10 PM

I bought a Hulk and sold it eight weeks later. I bought a 114060 to replace it, and am happier for it. Black is always the right choice for a forever SS watch.

PLNYC · 7 March 2018, 12:13 PM

As long as you’re happy, then you made the right choice! Don’t buy an LVc for the hype, buy it cause you like it.

SolesFly · 7 March 2018, 12:17 PM

+2

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Originally Posted by PLNYC

As long as you’re happy, then you made the right choice! Don’t buy an LVc for the hype, buy it cause you like it.

siempreko · 7 March 2018, 12:16 PM

The Hulk didn’t sing to you... now, with limited availability and increasing value, you begin to doubt yourself....

You made the right call! You bought the watch that you wanted! Love it and cherish it deeply!

View Poll Results: Was I smart to choose my first choice, a 114060, or a fool to pass on the 116610lv?
SubC No Date (114060) all the way, timeless beauty that you will never tire of	79	49.69%
The Hulk (116610lv) you fool... I can't believe it was in your hand at an AD and you didn't buy it	80	50.31%
Voters: 159. You may not vote on this poll

7 March 2018, 09:30 AM	#1
debner4 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: California Posts: 268	Good call or dumb decision? This past summer, I took a trip to Switzerland, and with a lot of effort, I arranged to buy a 114060 Submariner (no date) while I was on my trip (I decided that I preferred the no date version over the date version, but didn't give much thought to the Hulk because it wasn't as classic). By way of background, I have several watches including a Patek Nautilus in steel (5712A), and wanted a Sub to wear primarily on the weekend and as a pool/ocean watch or just wanted to change up my look. I also have a Panarai 359 as a casual watch (with a date), so the sub was meant to be more of a "beater" watch for me when I didn't want to wear the 5712 or PAM 359 (I also have a JLC dress watch as well as a Bell & Ross time only BR-01 on a rubber strap). I also wanted to add a Rolex to my collection, so this trip to Switzerland seemed like a great opportunity to pick one up in the motherland... My plan for this particular Rolex was/is to keep it forever given the extra sentimentality of getting it in Switzerland. When I finally arrived to the AD in Switzerland, they got the watch out of the safe and then their jaw dropped when they opened the box and realized that they had been holding a 116610LV instead (by mistake). I held the Hulk in my hand, but did not try it on. As I was doing this, the store manager made some calls and told me that my 114060 could be transferred to their store the following day, or I could buy the Hulk right then if I preferred? I chose to wait and buy the 114060 the next day. I've been thrilled with it ever since. That being said, my favorite part of my 5712 is that the dial is ever-changing depending on the light. The starburst effect on the Hulk makes me wonder if I would likewise prefer that watch to the plain black dial of the 114060? Recently, with the rising prices and limited availability of the Hulk, I am starting to regret not at least trying on the Hulk to see if it "sung" to me. On the flip-side, what attracted me to the 114060 in the first place was that I don't like the cyclops (although I don't hate it either), didn't want to have to set the date every weekend when I put the watch back on after 5 days off, and I like the low-key nature of the 114060 (as well as the fact that it is the original and pure-- in line with my keep it for life outlook on this watch). The reason I didn't give the Hulk a closer look is because I thought green might be too loud, and also something I could tire of rather than keep forever. But now I'm starting to wonder if I made the right choice and I haven't been able to find a Hulk at an AD since feeling this way to try it on and see once and for all (and at this rate, I may never be able to do so). So... loyal TRF people: Did I make the right choice by choosing my first choice in the timeless 114060, or should I have gone for the more unique, although more flashy (and $1,500 more expensive) 116610lv?

7 March 2018, 09:35 AM	#2
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7 March 2018, 09:38 AM	#3
DLRIDES 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Don Location: NC/WY Watch: Me Posts: 4,674	TLDR You bought your first choice, there is nothing to question. __________________ *Purchasing your first non HOA home on a 3 acre lot DOES NOT equate to owning a “farm”.*

7 March 2018, 09:43 AM	#8
TheRolexKingofLV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Trace Location: Vegas/Bay Area Posts: 9,234	At this moment in the game, I would have gone Hulk at MSRP. Money in the bank! __________________ Official Host "The Penthouse Party" Las Vegas 2018 Instagram @tracenunes

7 March 2018, 09:43 AM	#11
HL65 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: Ken Location: SW Florida Watch: One on my wrist. Posts: 64,006	I own both but I wouldn’t pass up an LV. It is such a special watch and the dial is unreal! __________________ *SPEM SUCCESSUS ALIT*

7 March 2018, 10:08 AM	#12
Krash 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Florida Watch: Sub, DJ41, GMT Posts: 8,260	Good call or dumb decision? You made the right decision. Life is good. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 March 2018, 10:37 AM	#14
TickTockChuck "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2016 Real Name: Chuck Location: Canada Watch: Rolex 116610LV Posts: 2,270	I love my LVc, but based on your narrative I think you made the right decision to get the Sub ND. You seem to have more solid reasons for choosing the ND over the LVc. The LVc probably seems more interesting since it is in limited supply these days. As I said, I love my LVc and think it's a splendid addition to a collection, but may not be for everyone. You made the right decision. Enjoy and wear your ND in good health. Cheers!

7 March 2018, 10:40 AM	#15
casadecamporolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2008 Real Name: Louie Location: CDC/FCGC Watch: 116619LB Posts: 1,328	Had the Hulk and it became the only watch I ever flipped.

7 March 2018, 10:43 AM	#16
drmizzou "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Enthusiast! Location: Midwest Watch: Collector! Posts: 1,761	You made the right decision - you bought what you loved and not what you ‘thought’ was the smart buy. It’s hard to predict demand - if the LV was readily available now and with no premium, would you consider it? If the answer is no then that should reinforce what we all know - that you made the right call! Enjoy! __________________ HULK BLNR YG Daytona 116515 Pepsi GMT 126710BLRO White DaytonaC 116500 Omega Seamaster 50th Anniv Bond OHMSS Omega Seamaster Bond titanium

7 March 2018, 10:57 AM	#17
Thuilln "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Real Name: Nick Location: YUL Watch: 16570 Posts: 1,936	You gotta love green to consider the Hulk. I wouldn't have tried it either, and I think you made a great choice by picking the 114060. __________________ Nick _________________________________________ 14060M - 114200 - 114270 - 214270 - 16710BLRO - 16570 - 3570.50 - Cartier Tank Solo - Cartier Tank Française ‘Yearling’ - CWC Navy Diver

7 March 2018, 11:02 AM	#18
schoolboy Banned Join Date: Nov 2017 Real Name: Jesus Location: Texas Watch: 116234 Posts: 8,721	Even though it seems like fate put the LVc in your path, and you declined it, I do feel like you went with the watch you wanted. Which is good

7 March 2018, 11:38 AM	#19
Thatguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Wayne Location: California Watch: Rolex, PAM Posts: 3,302	If there were currently LVc’s in every AD showcase would you still feel the same way? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

7 March 2018, 11:43 AM	#20
Drixonite "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: NYC Posts: 113	Green is one of my least favorite colors. Don't let others' opinions influence what you like. __________________ "Both." - Rolex Forums

7 March 2018, 11:44 AM	#21
ap1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,537	Man, this is self torture after the fact type stuff. Enjoy your sub. Pst, mistake. Hulk rules

7 March 2018, 11:44 AM	#22
Yobber76 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Mike Location: Illinois Watch: BLNR VTNR PAM 915 Posts: 1,982	If the Hulk was too green to you, then it was too green! Good choice!

7 March 2018, 11:49 AM	#23
Steerpike999 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Location: Melbourne Watch: A few..... Posts: 931	My rule of thumb is to always buy the watch i want to wear over the watch i may get more for when i sell it. sounds like you bought what you wanted. Wear in good health

7 March 2018, 11:51 AM	#24
HogwldFLTR 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,693	Buy what you like and don't worry about what others think!!! __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

7 March 2018, 11:52 AM	#25
rebel_1 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Location: Florida Posts: 2,132	I’m not a huge fan of the hulk. The 16610LV is a different story. IMHO, if you’re only going to have one Rolex, the SubC ND is the perfect choice. I had this one for a year or so. I only flipped it because I had too many subs. It very comfortable to wear. If I ever get another sub, it will be that one. __________________ Official Member: 'Perpetual 30' Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017

7 March 2018, 12:00 PM	#26
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Never doubt. Never regret. Never go back. ... But yes, pretty dumb.

7 March 2018, 12:10 PM	#27
Carrots "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Real Name: Mr. Carrots Location: The Lake Watch: me eat ribs! Posts: 57	I bought a Hulk and sold it eight weeks later. I bought a 114060 to replace it, and am happier for it. Black is always the right choice for a forever SS watch. __________________ 3x 114060, 2x 214270, 2x 116520, 116610LV, 116500LN

7 March 2018, 12:13 PM	#28
PLNYC "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2016 Location: Mars Posts: 1,683	As long as you’re happy, then you made the right choice! Don’t buy an LVc for the hype, buy it cause you like it. __________________

7 March 2018, 12:16 PM	#30
siempreko "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Location: Maryland, USA Watch: Sometimes Posts: 1,197	The Hulk didn’t sing to you... now, with limited availability and increasing value, you begin to doubt yourself.... You made the right call! You bought the watch that you wanted! Love it and cherish it deeply!

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