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dlesin · 7 April 2018, 02:35 PM

Hi all,

Quite painful to post this but here goes.....I was in the market for a Daytona 116509 and was contacted by a trf member by the name "nicknoh" who said he had one and offered a competitive price. He emailed me pictures and we came to an agreement and I wired him the money..(This was on Thursday) earlier in the night a I started getting a bad feeling and reverse google searched the item description and it traced back to a seller by the name "harrisons.brilliance" who posted the ad with the same pictures in May of last year. I texted Harrison and confirmed the watch was sold locally to a buyer in Toronto and I was indeed most likely scammed. "nicknoh"s email is "[email protected]" and as of now he is no longer responsive to my emails.

Any advice on next steps would be greatly appreciated. I will get police reports from my local PD in the morning as well as the PD of the address nicknoh provided but I'm unsure what else to do. I will contact chase in the morning as I have hope of a wire recall since it was a chase-chase wire but alas I might be screwed.....Learn from my experience.

Old Expat Beast · 7 April 2018, 09:01 PM

Possibly a phished/hacked account. He hasn't posted here since November 2016, did you notice that? Anyway, I have banned the account in case he is trying this with anyone else.

cop414 · 7 April 2018, 09:10 PM

Sounds like it Adam, hopefully the transfer can be reversed.

JayB · 7 April 2018, 09:25 PM

I'm sorry to hear this and hope you get your money back.

The WTB section is a potential goldmine to the unscrupulous amongst us.

jvmartin · 8 April 2018, 02:35 AM

Did you ever speak with him or was all contact via email?

dlesin · 8 April 2018, 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Possibly a phished/hacked account. He hasn't posted here since November 2016, did you notice that? Anyway, I have banned the account in case he is trying this with anyone else.

I suppose a phished account under the circumstances is the most likely case. Nonetheless I should've been more diligent in my dealings. All the purchases I've made through trf so far had been excellent from start to finish so guess that speaks to the rarity of my situation..

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Originally Posted by jvmartin

Did you ever speak with him or was all contact via email?

Only via email, making it my fault for not being diligent and at least getting a phone number.

dlesin · 8 April 2018, 03:53 AM

I was able to get the money frozen and the wire should be reversed come Monday so looks like I'm in the clear. It appears it was indeed a stolen account.

JayB · 8 April 2018, 08:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlesin

I was able to get the money frozen and the wire should be reversed come Monday so looks like I'm in the clear. It appears it was indeed a stolen account.

Wow, if you get the money back you've been very lucky, I'm pleased for you.

c41006 · 8 April 2018, 08:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlesin

I was able to get the money frozen and the wire should be reversed come Monday so looks like I'm in the clear. It appears it was indeed a stolen account.

Looks like you got extremely Lucky

Cato · 8 April 2018, 09:27 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dlesin

I was able to get the money frozen and the wire should be reversed come Monday so looks like I'm in the clear. It appears it was indeed a stolen account.

Glad you got your money back.

I hate thieves.

Sprta · 8 April 2018, 08:35 AM

You should report this to the police. Since you wired money to an account they should be able to id this person.

AbsolutelyROLEX! · 8 April 2018, 11:16 AM

Glad you got the money back too Dan
Just a little side story, I contacted the OP about having the watch he wants available, when he told me how much he had found one for I warned him it was most likely a scam.
IF THE PRICE IS TOO GOOD TO BELIEVE, ITS ALWAYS A SCAM!

dlesin · 8 April 2018, 12:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JayB

Wow, if you get the money back you've been very lucky, I'm pleased for you.

Thank you! I was lucky the transfer was a Chase-Chase so I was able to wake my banker at 1 AM and he got the ball rolling on freezing the scammers account before he could bounce the transfer somewhere else.

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Originally Posted by Sprta

You should report this to the police. Since you wired money to an account they should be able to id this person.

I have filed a report with my local police department as well as the department of the address the scammer provided. I don't expect much to come of it but I'll post updates if I ever hear anything of it.

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Originally Posted by Cato

Glad you got your money back.

I hate thieves.

Same, I don't understand how one can get satisfaction stealing another persons money or anything for that matter

Quote:

Originally Posted by c41006

Looks like you got extremely Lucky

Couldn't be happier about the outcome as far as I'm concerned.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AbsolutelyROLEX!

Glad you got the money back too Dan
Just a little side story, I contacted the OP about having the watch he wants available, when he told me how much he had found one for I warned him it was most likely a scam.
IF THE PRICE IS TOO GOOD TO BELIEVE, ITS ALWAYS A SCAM!

Indeed you were right. Looks like just because we all love the same thing doesn't mean we're all trustworthy here...

pilotjim · 8 April 2018, 01:23 PM

Great news!!!

GLADIATOR · 9 April 2018, 08:50 AM

Great News and Outcome
A

sourdough · 9 April 2018, 11:28 AM

Great save!

VintageVagabound · 9 April 2018, 01:43 PM

I will often use FTF to gauge their authenticity even when I have no intention of a FTF. For example “where are you located?”

“USA” (first red flag because most people in the US would be more specific)

“Where is the US?”

“Los Angeles” (I may ask about the weather too and if the response is in Celsius it’s another red flag).

“Ok. I’m glad you’re up at 4am (you can see where I’m going with this) but I’m planning on traveling soon for work. How about we meet at the Rolex shop in Beverly Hills next Tuesday?” (A normal sale wouldn’t have any issue with this but they’ll start getting itchy feet and will either ask you to send money in advance or will politely say “ok” but will stop responding to messages before you’ve sent any money).

Recently I’ve been offered a lot of PayPal scams (I’ll send you your asking price and my friend can pick it up because I’m traveling now). My response is always “Why not PayPal your friend and they can give me cash when they pick it up?” It’s always crickets after that

ocwatching · 19 April 2018, 02:07 AM

thanks for the post...
[email protected]
under login jiminLA is back at it again..
this time on TZ

woof · 19 April 2018, 02:53 AM

Aw.... great news... I'm happy for you.
BTW: my AD has that Daytona. If youre interested let me know.
I'm in SF bay area.

MinMay · 19 April 2018, 09:13 AM

Someone needs to get this thug arrested and prison for life. Waste of oxygen in this world.

Can you post his real full name? Since you had to add his name to the wire.

dlesin · 19 April 2018, 09:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ocwatching

thanks for the post...
[email protected]
under login jiminLA is back at it again..
this time on TZ

Did he end up getting away with someones money? Do you mind linking to the post mentioning him if there was one? I'd be curious to know if he's using the same info to scam other then the email address so I can let my local police department know.

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Originally Posted by MinMay

Someone needs to get this thug arrested and prison for life. Waste of oxygen in this world.

Can you post his real full name? Since you had to add his name to the wire.

If the mods are okay with it I'd be happy to. Hopefully they see this post and give the all clear.

ocwatching · 19 April 2018, 09:32 AM

I posted a piece for sale and he contacted me via PM on TZ with login of "jiminla"
I asked for references and possible face to face...

he responded with request for photos and details to the email address [email protected]

I knew it was off at this point and googled for his email..(my first step usually)

since then, if you do a search on TZ, all his posts have been removed...

7 April 2018, 02:35 PM	#1
dlesin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: NYC Posts: 61	Possible Scammer (nicknoh) Hi all, Quite painful to post this but here goes.....I was in the market for a Daytona 116509 and was contacted by a trf member by the name "nicknoh" who said he had one and offered a competitive price. He emailed me pictures and we came to an agreement and I wired him the money..(This was on Thursday) earlier in the night a I started getting a bad feeling and reverse google searched the item description and it traced back to a seller by the name "harrisons.brilliance" who posted the ad with the same pictures in May of last year. I texted Harrison and confirmed the watch was sold locally to a buyer in Toronto and I was indeed most likely scammed. "nicknoh"s email is "[email protected]" and as of now he is no longer responsive to my emails. Any advice on next steps would be greatly appreciated. I will get police reports from my local PD in the morning as well as the PD of the address nicknoh provided but I'm unsure what else to do. I will contact chase in the morning as I have hope of a wire recall since it was a chase-chase wire but alas I might be screwed.....Learn from my experience.

7 April 2018, 09:01 PM	#2
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,826	Possibly a phished/hacked account. He hasn't posted here since November 2016, did you notice that? Anyway, I have banned the account in case he is trying this with anyone else. __________________ _______________________

7 April 2018, 09:10 PM	#3
cop414 TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Apr 2012 Real Name: Tim Location: Pennsylvania Watch: 14060M Posts: 72,242	Sounds like it Adam, hopefully the transfer can be reversed. __________________ Rolex Submariner 14060M Omega Seamaster 2254.50 DOXA Professional 1200T Card carrying member of TRF's Global Association of Retro-Grouch-Curmudgeons TRF's "After Dark" Bar & NightClub Patron P Club Member #17 2 FA ENABLED

7 April 2018, 09:25 PM	#4
JayB "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2015 Location: UK Watch: EXP, DJ, NF Posts: 710	I'm sorry to hear this and hope you get your money back. The WTB section is a potential goldmine to the unscrupulous amongst us. __________________ In 1953 they used Rolex Oysters and oxygen on Everest. In 1978 they managed without the oxygen. Rolex Explorer -- Rolex Datejust -- Tudor North Flag -- Omega De Ville Trésor -- Tudor Black Bay GMT -- Omega Speedmaster Professional -- Tudor Black Bay Fifty Eight

8 April 2018, 11:16 AM	#12
AbsolutelyROLEX! "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Real Name: Andy Location: Ontario, Canada Watch: AKA: ANDERL712000 Posts: 4,935	Glad you got the money back too Dan Just a little side story, I contacted the OP about having the watch he wants available, when he told me how much he had found one for I warned him it was most likely a scam. IF THE PRICE IS TOO GOOD TO BELIEVE, ITS ALWAYS A SCAM! __________________ We want to be the first in the field and Rolex should be seen as the one and only-the best. Hans Wilsdorf, Rolex founder

8 April 2018, 02:35 AM	#5
jvmartin "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,349	Did you ever speak with him or was all contact via email?

8 April 2018, 03:53 AM	#7
dlesin "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: NYC Posts: 61	I was able to get the money frozen and the wire should be reversed come Monday so looks like I'm in the clear. It appears it was indeed a stolen account.

8 April 2018, 08:35 AM	#11
Sprta "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: USA Posts: 457	You should report this to the police. Since you wired money to an account they should be able to id this person.

8 April 2018, 01:23 PM	#14
pilotjim "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2017 Real Name: Jim Location: Mass Watch: BLNR Posts: 439	Great news!!! __________________ "Never attempt to dry a pet in your oven." LG Owner's Manual

9 April 2018, 08:50 AM	#15
GLADIATOR "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2010 Real Name: Adam Location: Costa Blanca, Watch: YMII,GMTII,DAYTONA Posts: 5,288	Great News and Outcome A __________________ The truth is incontrovertible. Malice may attack it, ignorance may deride it, but in the end, there it is. Winston Churchill "We judge ourselves by what we feel capable of doing, while others judge us by what we have already done."

9 April 2018, 11:28 AM	#16
sourdough Banned Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: JP Location: Vietnam Watch: 116610LN, 16610LV Posts: 25	Great save!

9 April 2018, 01:43 PM	#17
VintageVagabound "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Washington, DC Posts: 568	I will often use FTF to gauge their authenticity even when I have no intention of a FTF. For example “where are you located?” “USA” (first red flag because most people in the US would be more specific) “Where is the US?” “Los Angeles” (I may ask about the weather too and if the response is in Celsius it’s another red flag). “Ok. I’m glad you’re up at 4am (you can see where I’m going with this) but I’m planning on traveling soon for work. How about we meet at the Rolex shop in Beverly Hills next Tuesday?” (A normal sale wouldn’t have any issue with this but they’ll start getting itchy feet and will either ask you to send money in advance or will politely say “ok” but will stop responding to messages before you’ve sent any money). Recently I’ve been offered a lot of PayPal scams (I’ll send you your asking price and my friend can pick it up because I’m traveling now). My response is always “Why not PayPal your friend and they can give me cash when they pick it up?” It’s always crickets after that

19 April 2018, 02:07 AM	#18
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	thanks for the post... [email protected] under login jiminLA is back at it again.. this time on TZ __________________ too much into watches...

19 April 2018, 02:53 AM	#19
woof "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: san francisco Watch: SS daytona, Hulk, Posts: 1,297	Aw.... great news... I'm happy for you. BTW: my AD has that Daytona. If youre interested let me know. I'm in SF bay area. __________________ Watchdog (Woof) SS daytona,Hulk,DSJC,50th SD, SS SkyD, Zblue, YMblue, MoonPhase, Rootbeer Batman, Sub, Blk GMT, Pepsi,YG Daytona, TTSD, Batgirl, 5167/1A, Speedy, P01, OP, Kermit

19 April 2018, 09:13 AM	#20
MinMay Banned Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: United States Posts: 2,410	Someone needs to get this thug arrested and prison for life. Waste of oxygen in this world. Can you post his real full name? Since you had to add his name to the wire.

19 April 2018, 09:32 AM	#22
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	I posted a piece for sale and he contacted me via PM on TZ with login of "jiminla" I asked for references and possible face to face... he responded with request for photos and details to the email address [email protected] I knew it was off at this point and googled for his email..(my first step usually) since then, if you do a search on TZ, all his posts have been removed... __________________ too much into watches...

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