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Richcao · 3 May 2018, 09:58 PM

Hi all,

A few weeks ago I caved and bought a new 116619LB—my grail watch. Unfortunately, I’ve noticed small scratches particularly along the lugs of the watch (you need bright lighting to see it). Seems like the watch scratches if I even look at it the wrong way. I plan to daily wear the watch so:

1. What kind of wear can I expect?
2. Is gold that soft?
3. How much is a case replacement (lol)?
4. Is this thing daily-able?

If any owners can post pics of how theirs looked after a while, I would really appreciate it! Trying to get over my OCD

Bigblu10 · 3 May 2018, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Richcao

Hi all,

A few weeks ago I caved and bought a new 116619LB—my grail watch. Unfortunately, I’ve noticed small scratches particularly along the lugs of the watch (you need bright lighting to see it). Seems like the watch scratches if I even look at it the wrong way. I plan to daily wear the watch so:

1. What kind of wear can I expect?
2. Is gold that soft?
3. How much is a case replacement (lol)?
4. Is this thing daily-able?

If any owners can post pics of how theirs looked after a while, I would really appreciate it! Trying to get over my OCD

Re-read your last sentence. Get rid of the OCD. It is a gold watch and can be worn daily, but be prepared for scratches and swirlies especially on the pcl links. Part of wearing a watch is scratches and wear. The alternative is boxing it up and putting it in the safe.

Cryten · 3 May 2018, 10:41 PM

Gold is soft and it scratches easily. If you're OCD it'll drive you mad.

Tom's is about the most "worn in" I've seen, he may be along with some pics if he sees this.

In the meantime, here's a thread he started after 5 years of wear:

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=403954

Richcao · 3 May 2018, 10:44 PM

Thanks everyone for the responses. Since this is my only watch I suppose it doesn’t really matter if it gets worn out

. Also wow that is a lot of wear!

Bigblu10 · 3 May 2018, 11:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Richcao

Thanks everyone for the responses. Since this is my only watch I suppose it doesn’t really matter if it gets worn out

. Also wow that is a lot of wear!

Tom's wife primarily wears that white gold Sub, so the scratches and wear are no surprise. We all know how hard the wives are on the watches compared to us men!

Richcao · 3 May 2018, 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Bigblu10

Tom's wife primarily wears that white gold Sub, so the scratches and wear are no surprise. We all know how hard the wives are on the watches compared to us men!

Definitely

ap1 · 3 May 2018, 10:14 PM

Daily fine

padi56 · 3 May 2018, 10:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Richcao

Hi all,

A few weeks ago I caved and bought a new 116619LB—my grail watch. Unfortunately, I’ve noticed small scratches particularly along the lugs of the watch (you need bright lighting to see it). Seems like the watch scratches if I even look at it the wrong way. I plan to daily wear the watch so:

1. What kind of wear can I expect?
2. Is gold that soft?
3. How much is a case replacement (lol)?
4. Is this thing daily-able?

If any owners can post pics of how theirs looked after a while, I would really appreciate it! Trying to get over my OCD

First get rid of your OCD about your watch and few scratches.My grandfather's gold wrist and pocket watches he used daily for decades without any OCD.They belong to me now watch 90 years old pocket watch over 100 years old and still working as for the gold cases scratched with normal wear but easily polished as good as new.

jezza17 · 3 May 2018, 10:25 PM

Perfectly good for a daily. The scratches give it character.

toomann · 3 May 2018, 10:38 PM

If you don't want scratches - Don't wear it. It's as simple as that.

beshannon · 3 May 2018, 10:44 PM

Yes gold is very soft

Joearch · 3 May 2018, 11:16 PM

Gold is more prone to scratch than SS

watchwatcher · 3 May 2018, 11:31 PM

TBH, I don't see that my gold watches wear much, if any, differently than we steel watches.

But then again, I am over worrying about each and every little scratch. Ain't nobody got time for that.

Bladeshot · 4 May 2018, 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by watchwatcher

TBH, I don't see that my gold watches wear much, if any, differently than we steel watches.

But then again, I am over worrying about each and every little scratch. Ain't nobody got time for that.

Agree: me either! Can’t spend time worrying. Need to be enjoying. My WG BLRO wears just fine and I don’t treat it any differently. They will all get wear from use, regardless of metal. I’m a user ~ Only one stored in the bank, a perfect 1675 that I got from Springer! Others get worn! 🤙

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T01 · 4 May 2018, 12:11 AM

Watches will scratch, regardless of metal. It's inevitable. Wear, enjoy and when you get the piece back from RSC, it'll look new the cycle repeats.

DocHorton · 4 May 2018, 12:59 AM

If you're having OCD about a few scratches these pics of mine will probably make your head explode. I wear mine 3-5 days a week and it obviously does not get babied at all. #itsjustawatch

Onikage · 4 May 2018, 02:37 AM

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Originally Posted by DocHorton

If you're having OCD about a few scratches these pics of mine will probably make your head explode. I wear mine 3-5 days a week and it obviously does not get babied at all. #itsjustawatch

Just brush the bracelet. It will look a lot better. 18K PCLs obviously aren't your thing.

Bigblu10 · 4 May 2018, 03:35 AM

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Originally Posted by DocHorton

If you're having OCD about a few scratches these pics of mine will probably make your head explode. I wear mine 3-5 days a week and it obviously does not get babied at all. #itsjustawatch

Not any different than some of the well worn ss watches shown here. Depends how you wear them more than the type of metal.

ap1 · 4 May 2018, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by DocHorton

If you're having OCD about a few scratches these pics of mine will probably make your head explode. I wear mine 3-5 days a week and it obviously does not get babied at all. #itsjustawatch

Magnificent

mjclark32 · 4 May 2018, 04:53 AM

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Originally Posted by DocHorton

If you're having OCD about a few scratches these pics of mine will probably make your head explode. I wear mine 3-5 days a week and it obviously does not get babied at all. #itsjustawatch

Richcao · 4 May 2018, 06:08 AM

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Originally Posted by DocHorton

If you're having OCD about a few scratches these pics of mine will probably make your head explode. I wear mine 3-5 days a week and it obviously does not get babied at all. #itsjustawatch

Wow that looks a lot better than I expected! How do your lugs look after so much wear?

DocHorton · 4 May 2018, 06:12 AM

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Originally Posted by Richcao

Wow that looks a lot better than I expected! How do your lugs look after so much wear?

Lugs aren't too bad..a couple small dings. The majority of the wear is the bracelet.

Bladeshot · 4 May 2018, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by DocHorton

If you're having OCD about a few scratches these pics of mine will probably make your head explode. I wear mine 3-5 days a week and it obviously does not get babied at all. #itsjustawatch

Giddy-up! Love it! That’s a user.

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Malibuboy · 4 May 2018, 01:07 AM

Everyday, all day. It’s what a put on first and take off last.

joli160 · 4 May 2018, 02:02 AM

Gold is softer but my PM watches don't scratch any more so than SS. Basically everything what will scratch your gold watch will also scratch your SS watch.
Rolex uses only 18K gold for durability and it's annealed as well. Not like it is soft as 24K which some believe.

Accidentally banging against a brick wall will scratch any watch.
Just wear it and comes service time give it the full treatment

Onikage · 4 May 2018, 02:35 AM

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Originally Posted by joli160

Gold is softer but my PM watches don't scratch any more so than SS. Basically everything what will scratch your gold watch will also scratch your SS watch.
Rolex uses only 18K gold for durability and it's annealed as well. Not like it is soft as 24K which some believe.

Accidentally banging against a brick wall will scratch any watch.
Just wear it and comes service time give it the full treatment

Not true. SS being harder magically resists encounters with more materials than gold. Agree on the brick wall though.
To the OP - Rolex high polish won't last very long but the scratches combine to create their own polish. It's your watch so wear it!

joli160 · 4 May 2018, 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Onikage

Not true. SS being harder magically resists encounters with more materials than gold. Agree on the brick wall though.
To the OP - Rolex high polish won't last very long but the scratches combine to create their own polish. It's your watch so wear it!

Theoretically of course you are right, but there is this odd perception on the forum that gold watches scratch by only looking at them.

This I think is a bit exaggerated as I don't see any difference in wear between my gold or SS watches.
To me a gold Rolex is as durable as a Rolex SS watch, they all scratch

handsfull · 4 May 2018, 02:20 AM

PM watches scratch easier than SS. Fact. The composition of the metal dictates softness.

IMO, You have to be OK with more scratches if you want to don PM. Thats why I sold my 116718.

henry333 · 4 May 2018, 04:31 AM

WG and SS I think it is pretty close to same scratch
People think gold is soft but it's 24kt yellow is soft. White gold ..Rolex yellow 18kt
Mixed with many other metals are fine. I bet if you were wearing a SS sub it will still scratch or show scratch as easy.

Etschell · 4 May 2018, 06:47 AM

you can expect more scratches. it is gold and it has pcls.

3 May 2018, 09:58 PM	#1
Richcao "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Real Name: Rich Location: New York Watch: 116500, 116719 Posts: 39	Scratches on WG Sub Hi all, A few weeks ago I caved and bought a new 116619LB—my grail watch. Unfortunately, I’ve noticed small scratches particularly along the lugs of the watch (you need bright lighting to see it). Seems like the watch scratches if I even look at it the wrong way. I plan to daily wear the watch so: 1. What kind of wear can I expect? 2. Is gold that soft? 3. How much is a case replacement (lol)? 4. Is this thing daily-able? If any owners can post pics of how theirs looked after a while, I would really appreciate it! Trying to get over my OCD

3 May 2018, 10:44 PM	#11
beshannon "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: Northern Virginia Watch: One of Not Many Posts: 17,892	Yes gold is very soft __________________ IWC Portugieser 7 Day, Omega Seamaster SMP300m, Vacheron Constantin Traditionnelle Complete Calendar, Glashutte PanoInverse, Glashutte SeaQ Panorama Date, Omega Aqua Terra 150, Omega CK 859, Omega Speedmaster 3861 Moonwatch, Breitling Superocean Steelfish, JLC Atmos Transparent Clock

4 May 2018, 12:59 AM	#16
DocHorton "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2012 Location: God Bless Texas Watch: Smurf, DD40, SkyD. Posts: 1,517	If you're having OCD about a few scratches these pics of mine will probably make your head explode. I wear mine 3-5 days a week and it obviously does not get babied at all. #itsjustawatch Attached Images

4 May 2018, 02:02 AM	#25
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,759	Gold is softer but my PM watches don't scratch any more so than SS. Basically everything what will scratch your gold watch will also scratch your SS watch. Rolex uses only 18K gold for durability and it's annealed as well. Not like it is soft as 24K which some believe. Accidentally banging against a brick wall will scratch any watch. Just wear it and comes service time give it the full treatment __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

4 May 2018, 06:47 AM	#30
Etschell "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: FL Watch: platinum sub Posts: 15,884	you can expect more scratches. it is gold and it has pcls. __________________ If you wind it, they will run. 25 or 6 to 4.

3 May 2018, 10:41 PM	#3
Cryten "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2015 Location: Terrafirma Posts: 2,655	Gold is soft and it scratches easily. If you're OCD it'll drive you mad. Tom's is about the most "worn in" I've seen, he may be along with some pics if he sees this. In the meantime, here's a thread he started after 5 years of wear: https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=403954

3 May 2018, 10:14 PM	#7
ap1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,537	Daily fine

3 May 2018, 10:25 PM	#9
jezza17 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2009 Real Name: Alex Location: Sydney, Australia Watch: DRSD Posts: 511	Perfectly good for a daily. The scratches give it character.

3 May 2018, 10:38 PM	#10
toomann "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: columbus, ohio Watch: Oyster Perpetual Posts: 253	If you don't want scratches - Don't wear it. It's as simple as that.

3 May 2018, 11:16 PM	#12
Joearch 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Joe Location: Los Angeles Watch: Daytona + GMT BLNR Posts: 4,852	Gold is more prone to scratch than SS

3 May 2018, 11:31 PM	#13
watchwatcher "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Larry Location: Kentucky Watch: Yes Posts: 35,047	TBH, I don't see that my gold watches wear much, if any, differently than we steel watches. But then again, I am over worrying about each and every little scratch. Ain't nobody got time for that.

4 May 2018, 12:11 AM	#15
T01 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: T Location: AZ, NV, CA Posts: 6,490	Watches will scratch, regardless of metal. It's inevitable. Wear, enjoy and when you get the piece back from RSC, it'll look new the cycle repeats.

4 May 2018, 01:07 AM	#24
Malibuboy "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Reno Watch: SMUUURF Posts: 383	Everyday, all day. It’s what a put on first and take off last.

4 May 2018, 02:20 AM	#28
handsfull "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: J Location: The great Midwest Watch: youlookinat? Posts: 2,369	PM watches scratch easier than SS. Fact. The composition of the metal dictates softness. IMO, You have to be OK with more scratches if you want to don PM. Thats why I sold my 116718.

4 May 2018, 04:31 AM	#29
henry333 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2013 Real Name: Hendricks Location: USA Watch: 116600 Posts: 826	WG and SS I think it is pretty close to same scratch People think gold is soft but it's 24kt yellow is soft. White gold ..Rolex yellow 18kt Mixed with many other metals are fine. I bet if you were wearing a SS sub it will still scratch or show scratch as easy.

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