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BigBoi69 · 19 May 2018, 04:49 PM

I'm 100% buying a submariner, I absolutely love the TT but when compared with the SS. Does it have any practical drawbacks? I don't want to have to worry every time I put it on, I hear that the gold is soft, can dent and scratch easier.

What do you guys think?

Seibei · 19 May 2018, 04:59 PM

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Originally Posted by BigBoi69

I'm 100% buying a submariner, I absolutely love the TT but when compared with the SS. Does it have any practical drawbacks? I don't want to have to worry every time I put it on, I hear that the gold is soft, can dent and scratch easier.

What do you guys think?

Yes, gold is a bit softer. I think most would say that the biggest drawback is that it is not currently fashionable. If you don't mind that, then the TT sounds like the watch for you.

joli160 · 19 May 2018, 05:03 PM

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Yes, gold is a bit softer. I think most would say that the biggest drawback is that it is not currently fashionable. If you don't mind that, then the TT sounds like the watch for you.

You missed Basel 2018 ?

BigBoi69 · 19 May 2018, 05:13 PM

So is the gold a drawback or not?

RolexComplex · 19 May 2018, 05:20 PM

You said you absolutely love the TT, so buy what you love. Both gold and stainless steel will get scratches — that’s life.

Devildog · 19 May 2018, 05:29 PM

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So is the gold a drawback or not?

The only drawback is that the gold PCLs are more prone to scratches and will pick up hairline scratches from normal clothing.

You’ll only see the hairlines under intense light so if you’re cool with that it’s fine. If not then you may struggle

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Zakalwe · 19 May 2018, 05:33 PM

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So is the gold a drawback or not?

18ct gold is undoubtedly a softer metal than stainless steel so it certainly can “dent and scratch” easier. If you’re a professional spelunker, rock climber or you’re unnaturally clumsy then it might be a problem. If you’re an average guy with an average job and average hobbies then it’s no drawback at all.

Swiss Mad! · 19 May 2018, 05:37 PM

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So is the gold a drawback or not?

For everyday I would recommend the SS.

The TT is a beautiful watch, but discreet it 'aint..lol.

As the owner of both, I can honestly say I am very selective of when & where I wear the TT as it can look a bit 'flash' and you don't always want to draw that kind of attention to yourself.

You won't regret either, but decide if it's a daily wearer for every occasion or to keep for special occasions

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tyler1980 · 19 May 2018, 05:41 PM

the drawback anytime you are talking about TT is it isnt classic. It will go into and out of style. A SS watch is always in style. Nothing against TT, but its true. Its on an upswing now for sure.

fskywalker · 19 May 2018, 08:27 PM

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For everyday I would recommend the SS.

The TT is a beautiful watch, but discreet it 'aint..lol.

As the owner of both, I can honestly say I am very selective of when & where I wear the TT as it can look a bit 'flash' and you don't always want to draw that kind of attention to yourself.

You won't regret either, but decide if it's a daily wearer for every occasion or to keep for special occasions

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This!

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Muxi · 19 May 2018, 06:46 PM

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So is the gold a drawback or not?

A gold bezel will dent and nick more easily than SS. If you’re OC you will feel crappy the first time you dent the bezel ridges. And you will

meganfox17 · 19 May 2018, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Seibei

Yes, gold is a bit softer. I think most would say that the biggest drawback is that it is not currently fashionable. If you don't mind that, then the TT sounds like the watch for you

I think Mr. Paul Pluta disagrees with your assessment...

Beelzy · 19 May 2018, 05:31 PM

The gold is a scratch magnet, but it's hard to dent the links. The only drawback to TT
is resale value. They take a bigger hit than SS. But who cares, you're not supposed
sell it off anyway. Enjoy your new Sub!

bp1000 · 19 May 2018, 05:32 PM

More obvious scratches especially on clasp. That’s it

However my LV has pretty bad scratches that look worse than the light but many scratches on my bluesey

thesharkfactor · 19 May 2018, 05:43 PM

Not fashionable, bluesy???? Nonsense.
Take a bigger hit than SS, utter tripe!!!

Bluesy is very fashionable, it's perhaps the most beautiful Rolex.
It is also one of the best TT's to hold its value. My own is worth same or more today as pre-owned than I paid for it new with stickers on in 2016.

You will take a bigger "hit" on an SS or PM Submariner.

Isn't classic? It's been about over 30years ffs..

Please don't say anything unless you know what you are talking about....

tyler1980 · 19 May 2018, 05:53 PM

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Not fashionable, bluesy???? Nonsense.
Take a bigger hit than SS, utter tripe!!!

Bluesy is very fashionable, it's perhaps the most beautiful Rolex.
It is also one of the best TT's to hold its value. My own is worth same or more today as pre-owned than I paid for it new with stickers on in 2016.

You will take a bigger "hit" on an SS or PM Submariner.

Isn't classic? It's been about over 30years ffs..

Please don't say anything unless you know what you are talking about....

you can buy one pretty much any time, anywhere. They are getting more popular but most people dont want one. 10 years ago even less people did. Its a nice looking watch but its a smaller market for sure. Its not cost why less people buy it vs SS. Its an entirely different look.

Swiss Mad! · 19 May 2018, 05:58 PM

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Not fashionable, bluesy???? Nonsense.
Take a bigger hit than SS, utter tripe!!!

Bluesy is very fashionable, it's perhaps the most beautiful Rolex.
It is also one of the best TT's to hold its value. My own is worth same or more today as pre-owned than I paid for it new with stickers on in 2016.

You will take a bigger "hit" on an SS or PM Submariner.

Isn't classic? It's been about over 30years ffs..

Please don't say anything unless you know what you are talking about....

Sorry, I don't fully agree with everything you've said there.

On Chrono24 you can save all your watches and it constantly monitors their performance.

Not that I'm a flipper or anything but it's always nice to know how your watches are doing.

Anyway, as you will see from the screen shots of my account below, the SS Sub is holding its own and has actually increased slightly in value since I bought it.

The TT not quite so good and is worth 7% less than what I paid.

It's not right to say the TT holds its value better than the SS.

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joli160 · 19 May 2018, 06:02 PM

Resale and swirls/ scratches don't concern me personally. I like the look of TT. It's blingy, more so than PM imo.

watchmework · 20 May 2018, 01:35 AM

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Sorry, I don't fully agree with everything you've said there.

On Chrono24 you can save all your watches and it constantly monitors their performance.

Not that I'm a flipper or anything but it's always nice to know how your watches are doing.

Anyway, as you will see from the screen shots of my account below, the SS Sub is holding its own and has actually increased slightly in value since I bought it.

The TT not quite so good and is worth 7% less than what I paid.

It's not right to say the TT holds its value better than the SS.

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I never knew you could do this on chrono24, thanks for sharing. I just put my watches in and will check the trend periodically! Like you, not because I’m going to sell but because I’m generally curious.

Swiss Mad! · 20 May 2018, 03:34 PM

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I never knew you could do this on chrono24, thanks for sharing. I just put my watches in and will check the trend periodically! Like you, not because I’m going to sell but because I’m generally curious.

It's a good feature. Be warned though it can be quite depressing!
I have a couple of watches that are thousands in the red..(not Rolex obv's..)
Lol

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MonsterSS · 20 May 2018, 02:31 PM

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Not fashionable, bluesy???? Nonsense.
Take a bigger hit than SS, utter tripe!!!

Bluesy is very fashionable, it's perhaps the most beautiful Rolex.
It is also one of the best TT's to hold its value. My own is worth same or more today as pre-owned than I paid for it new with stickers on in 2016.

You will take a bigger "hit" on an SS or PM Submariner.

Isn't classic? It's been about over 30years ffs..

Please don't say anything unless you know what you are talking about....

Id have to agree. The bkuesy is timeless.

thesharkfactor · 19 May 2018, 05:59 PM

Guy was asking if there were any drawbacks, folks told him: he will lose more money than SS (false), not as fashionable (to who?), it's not classic (it's 30yrs old). You are saying it's less popular (drawback?, no - he says he absolutely loves TT).

tyler1980 · 19 May 2018, 06:04 PM

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Guy was asking if there were any drawbacks, folks told him: he will lose more money than SS (false), not as fashionable (to who?), it's not classic (it's 30yrs old). You are saying it's less popular (drawback?, no - he says he absolutely loves TT).

im not talking about resale. I am saying he may not love it if TT goes out of style. I have clothes i like but no longer wear because they look out of place today. Its a concern absolutely. Especially so if you are never selling it. There are several TT watches i like, but wearability in 20 years is something i do think about.

I like AP ROO's too. They are great watches. Do i think many of them will be in style and popular in 20 years? No. So spending that kind of money on something that may not be as timeless would be a factor in that situation too.

Swiss Mad! · 19 May 2018, 06:07 PM

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Guy was asking if there were any drawbacks, folks told him: he will lose more money than SS (false), not as fashionable (to who?), it's not classic (it's 30yrs old). You are saying it's less popular (drawback?, no - he says he absolutely loves TT).

You are not right in what you are saying.

The TT will lose more money than the SS version...that's just a fact no matter how much you are a fan of the TT the secondary market prices prove this.

You cannot show me any evidence of a TT increasing in value more than its SS counterpart.

2 watches the same age, same condition, the SS will have increased by a higher % from its original purchase price than the TT.

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thesharkfactor · 19 May 2018, 06:14 PM

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You are not right in what you are saying.

The TT will lose more money than the SS version...that's just a fact no matter how much you are a fan of the TT the secondary market prices prove this.

You cannot show me any evidence of a TT increasing in value more than its SS counterpart.

2 watches the same age, same condition, the SS will have increased by a higher % from its original purchase price than the TT.

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Correct.. however, this "advice" the OP was given was generalised advice about Rolex TT watches, of which the Submariner TT is a different subject altogether and was being ignored, the general TT opinion was projected.

A Rolex TT is a poor buy, you will lose. A TT Submariner is excluded from this though, it's different. You know this..

thesharkfactor · 19 May 2018, 06:01 PM

Very good... however I bought mine for £8495.. so it's worth 100% of what I paid minus lunch (bought Nov '16 two days before the UK increase), thank you for clarifying what I said with a screenshot to prove I was correct.

Swiss Mad! · 19 May 2018, 06:14 PM

You are totally missing the point!

What you are saying is that the watch you bought in 2016 is now worth more than you paid for it.

Fair enough, but what I am saying is that of MY 2 watches both bought in 2017, the SS version is holding its own and has actually increased slightly (+1%) but the TT has lost money (-7%) over the same time period.

Obviously overtime the TT will come back and through price rises etc I fully expect it to be worth at least what I paid for it or even a little more.

The SS however at the same point in the future will have increased by a far greater % than the TT ever will.

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Very good... however I bought mine for £8495.. so it's worth 100% of what I paid minus lunch (bought Nov '16 two days before the UK increase), thank you for clarifying what I said with a screenshot to prove I was correct.

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BigBoi69 · 19 May 2018, 06:19 PM

Would you say your TT has any practical limitations?

Swiss Mad! · 19 May 2018, 06:26 PM

It's just a more 'dressier'option.

The SS is more practical for everyday use.

The polished gold parts on the bracelet & clasp will scratch far eisier on the TT for sure.

If your careful you will be fine.

My two clasps below for comparison.

I have to say I only wear the TT occasionally, the SS most other days in rotation with a couple of other SS watches.

Both holding up pretty well to be fair.

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Would you say your TT has any practical limitations?

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superstarmar · 21 May 2018, 02:07 AM

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Would you say your TT has any practical limitations?

No... actually advantages!!!!

Dress up or down ... your choice , TT does it all !!!!
Get the Bluesy , you’ll be happy !!!

19 May 2018, 04:49 PM	#1
BigBoi69 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Auckland, Bangkok Posts: 6	Does the TT submariner have any drawbacks over SS? I'm 100% buying a submariner, I absolutely love the TT but when compared with the SS. Does it have any practical drawbacks? I don't want to have to worry every time I put it on, I hear that the gold is soft, can dent and scratch easier. What do you guys think?

19 May 2018, 05:41 PM	#9
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	the drawback anytime you are talking about TT is it isnt classic. It will go into and out of style. A SS watch is always in style. Nothing against TT, but its true. Its on an upswing now for sure. __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

19 May 2018, 06:02 PM	#18
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,761	Resale and swirls/ scratches don't concern me personally. I like the look of TT. It's blingy, more so than PM imo. __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

19 May 2018, 06:19 PM	#28
BigBoi69 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Auckland, Bangkok Posts: 6	Hey Swiss Mad Would you say your TT has any practical limitations?

19 May 2018, 05:13 PM	#4
BigBoi69 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Auckland, Bangkok Posts: 6	So is the gold a drawback or not?

19 May 2018, 05:20 PM	#5
RolexComplex "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Location: California Posts: 229	You said you absolutely love the TT, so buy what you love. Both gold and stainless steel will get scratches — that’s life.

19 May 2018, 05:31 PM	#13
Beelzy "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2010 Real Name: Chris Location: Cen-Cal Watch: 16610 Posts: 869	The gold is a scratch magnet, but it's hard to dent the links. The only drawback to TT is resale value. They take a bigger hit than SS. But who cares, you're not supposed sell it off anyway. Enjoy your new Sub!

19 May 2018, 05:32 PM	#14
bp1000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 4,976	More obvious scratches especially on clasp. That’s it However my LV has pretty bad scratches that look worse than the light but many scratches on my bluesey

19 May 2018, 05:43 PM	#15
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,643	Not fashionable, bluesy???? Nonsense. Take a bigger hit than SS, utter tripe!!! Bluesy is very fashionable, it's perhaps the most beautiful Rolex. It is also one of the best TT's to hold its value. My own is worth same or more today as pre-owned than I paid for it new with stickers on in 2016. You will take a bigger "hit" on an SS or PM Submariner. Isn't classic? It's been about over 30years ffs.. Please don't say anything unless you know what you are talking about....

19 May 2018, 05:59 PM	#22
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,643	Guy was asking if there were any drawbacks, folks told him: he will lose more money than SS (false), not as fashionable (to who?), it's not classic (it's 30yrs old). You are saying it's less popular (drawback?, no - he says he absolutely loves TT).

19 May 2018, 06:01 PM	#26
thesharkfactor "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2007 Location: Scotland Watch: GMT Posts: 3,643	Very good... however I bought mine for £8495.. so it's worth 100% of what I paid minus lunch (bought Nov '16 two days before the UK increase), thank you for clarifying what I said with a screenshot to prove I was correct.

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