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DanielWatson · 25 May 2018, 01:21 AM

I put my name down for the new pepsi the day it came out, and i spoke to my AD yesterday and they told me a 4-6 year wait.

What do you think to that? is that fair as in about right or is that taking the piss? should i just wait for it and when i eventually get called just buy it anyway?

Thanks for all the input and knowledge from everyone much appreciated.

Daniel Watson

tyler1980 · 25 May 2018, 01:23 AM

they probably don't want to manage another list. That is code for "no"

Dont bother waiting

c41006 · 25 May 2018, 01:24 AM

At this point I think any estimate is a wild guess.

SteelSubmarinerGuy · 25 May 2018, 01:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DanielWatson

I put my name down for the new pepsi the day it came out, and i spoke to my AD yesterday and they told me a 4-6 year wait.

What do you think to that? is that fair as in about right or is that taking the piss? should i just wait for it and when i eventually get called just buy it anyway?

Thanks for all the input and knowledge from everyone much appreciated.

Daniel Watson

He’s lying... they know the watch will be in high demand, if you spend a lot of money with your AD it won’t be that long, if you don’t they will get some but customer who they don’t consider to be top spenders won’t see them for a while...

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Nairn1980 · 25 May 2018, 03:38 AM

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Originally Posted by SteelSubmarinerGuy

He’s lying... they know the watch will be in high demand, if you spend a lot of money with your AD it won’t be that long, if you don’t they will get some but customer who they don’t consider to be top spenders won’t see them for a while...

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Spot on - give up

Snow-Dweller · 25 May 2018, 01:25 AM

Change AD.

bp1000 · 25 May 2018, 01:26 AM

Ridiculous

I love my watches and the Rolex brand but waits for watches. No thanks.

Either price them to ringfence the elite or make more

I’m buying other brands now. In the last 3 years

Omega
Tudor
Jaeger leCoultre

My two omega special editions from Basel world 2018 are turning up starting next month

Wonderful to walk into an AD:Boutique, see the watch you want, sit down, try it on and haggle to buy it there and then. Rolex was like this 4 years ago.

Now it’s just a rubbish experience. Waiting 1-3 years for the main pieces you’ve never seen. Madness

m j b · 25 May 2018, 03:23 AM

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Originally Posted by DanielWatson

is that fair as in about right or is that taking the piss?

Quote:

Originally Posted by bp1000

Either price them to ringfence the elite or make more

You Brits crack me up sometimes.

I concur that any time estimate right now is just a guess.

TakeYourTime · 25 May 2018, 01:27 AM

They don't want to deal with you + they want to avoid that you check permanently regarding the status.

Buy more inventory / build a relationship, wait until the model is less hot, buy with a premium at TS/grey, try your luck by traveling (e.g. AD at an airport) or move on and spend your money somewhere else :)

Other brands make nice watches, too!

piratepress · 25 May 2018, 01:48 AM

I wouldn't consider waiting on any watch for 4-6 years. Either move on, or pay a premium from a reseller if you want it that badly!

jerrydlamme · 25 May 2018, 03:19 AM

4-6 usually means NO!

I would switch to another AD...

tyler1980 · 25 May 2018, 03:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DanielWatson

I put my name down for the new pepsi the day it came out, and i spoke to my AD yesterday and they told me a 4-6 year wait.

What do you think to that? is that fair as in about right or is that taking the piss? should i just wait for it and when i eventually get called just buy it anyway?

Thanks for all the input and knowledge from everyone much appreciated.

Daniel Watson

the other thing to condider is with GDPR, 6 years may be the timeframe that they need to be able to figure out how to contact you with the information you provided after jumping through all proper data protection steps and triple checking that they are not out of compliance. They might have the watch all along and just cant let you know

brucethemanlee · 25 May 2018, 03:48 AM

Unfortunately you are not there priority

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zjd168 · 25 May 2018, 03:51 AM

That means you don't need to be serious on the waiting list of this AD. Anyway you should shop around or buy more from the AD if you want it sooner. Otherwise just wait and it is not too bad if it can arrive in 4 years. It is just a luxury watch where is the urgency?

marc12 · 25 May 2018, 03:59 AM

I know this is another "My AD Said" post, however I just heard yesterday that there is no "list", rather when one comes in the owner of the store will decide who to sell it to.

Kinda sucks, but I guess I have a strong case because I did not flip my blue SKyD

SeaDweller50 · 25 May 2018, 04:35 AM

No wait list at my AD in West Sussex. Too much hassle apparently.

AutoBay · 25 May 2018, 12:51 PM

Put yourself in the shoes of the AD for a second. A REALLY, really good AD, with a strong Rolex relationship is gonna get, what, 4-6 of these a year? OF COURSE these are going to previous buyers. It's basic business. Coming in cold off the street and asking for the most valuable relationship chip that an AD has and being shocked that they can't deliver it is just a tad naive, no? Buy something from them. Show that you mean business. As long as you're not dealing with a mega chain like Boucherer, WoS, Tourneau, etc...you'll find that getting the pieces you want only requires some modest patience and mutual respect.

RolexComplex · 25 May 2018, 02:32 PM

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Originally Posted by AutoBay

Put yourself in the shoes of the AD for a second. A REALLY, really good AD, with a strong Rolex relationship is gonna get, what, 4-6 of these a year? OF COURSE these are going to previous buyers. It's basic business. Coming in cold off the street and asking for the most valuable relationship chip that an AD has and being shocked that they can't deliver it is just a tad naive, no? Buy something from them. Show that you mean business. As long as you're not dealing with a mega chain like Boucherer, WoS, Tourneau, etc...you'll find that getting the pieces you want only requires some modest patience and mutual respect.

Exactly. I don’t know how many of each high-demand model a good AD would get in a year but, trust me, if you have a relationship with the AD (“relationship” here means a purchase history of multiple watches and tens of thousands of dollars), you will get what you want with little to no wait time. It’s business. When they tell you the wait is years, that’s just a nice way of saying you are not a priority customer and “leave and don’t call.”

Uggi · 25 May 2018, 09:48 PM

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Originally Posted by AutoBay

Put yourself in the shoes of the AD for a second. A REALLY, really good AD, with a strong Rolex relationship is gonna get, what, 4-6 of these a year? OF COURSE these are going to previous buyers. It's basic business. Coming in cold off the street and asking for the most valuable relationship chip that an AD has and being shocked that they can't deliver it is just a tad naive, no? Buy something from them. Show that you mean business. As long as you're not dealing with a mega chain like Boucherer, WoS, Tourneau, etc...you'll find that getting the pieces you want only requires some modest patience and mutual respect.

Show a retailer you "mean business" by buying something you don't want to get on a list for something you do want?

tyler1980 · 25 May 2018, 10:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Uggi

Show a retailer you "mean business" by buying something you don't want to get on a list for something you do want?

lots of people already have a lot of watches and continue to buy a lot of watches they DO want. They are ahead in the queue. Simple

The idea that there are all these people walking around buying watches they don't want is ridiculous. If you don't want them the grey market is cheaper

Uggi · 25 May 2018, 10:20 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

lots of people already have a lot of watches and continue to buy a lot of watches they DO want. They are ahead in the queue. Simple

The idea that there are all these people walking around buying watches they don't want is ridiculous. If you don't want them the grey market is cheaper

Yeah I get that it was more the advice to the OP to "buy something from them" to get on the BLRO list. If what he wants is the BLRO why buy some other stuff?
I understand that some people buy 12 watches a year from the same AD and so "the list" only exists for those customers. For all other customers there is only the grey market.

tyler1980 · 25 May 2018, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Uggi

Yeah I get that it was more the advice to the OP to "buy something from them" to get on the BLRO list. If what he wants is the BLRO why buy some other stuff?
I understand that some people buy 12 watches a year from the same AD and so "the list" only exists for those customers. For all other customers there is only the grey market.

i think people get offered the quick relationship package deal a lot. I think its a bad move 99% of the time. Every UK AD i have even been in that isn't my AD has hinted at that almost every time. They don't know me and i have no history there and its "buy this and then get that".

schoolboy · 25 May 2018, 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by tyler1980

The idea that there are all these people walking around buying watches they don't want is ridiculous. If you don't want them the grey market is cheaper

This.

I mean no disrespect toward people that buy lots of watches and have huge collections...

But if you want ONLY that watch, I don’t think it makes sense to buy more watches just for this one.

You know what I mean?

Spend $20k or more to be allowed a chance of buying what you want?

Or pay a private seller $6k over msrp for the watch?

These are things that you might have to ask yourself.

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SLS · 25 May 2018, 12:55 PM

Pretty sad when you have to beg to buy a watch. This is nuts SMH

codecow · 25 May 2018, 12:55 PM

Anything under 7 years is good.

Sarosh · 25 May 2018, 10:04 PM

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Originally Posted by codecow

Anything under 7 years is good.

lol when that time frame is considered good then we are really way down the rabbit hole!

AD's will get 4-6 a year, greys will get double or triple that

GB-man · 25 May 2018, 02:47 PM

They don’t value you as a customer. You won’t get this watch unless they value your business. Sad state of affairs but it’s where we are.

enjoythemusic · 25 May 2018, 09:41 PM

Sounds like the AD is trying to be kind and basically letting you know try somewhere else... or simply buy from grey market.

albaserver · 25 May 2018, 10:08 PM

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Originally Posted by DanielWatson

I put my name down for the new pepsi the day it came out, and i spoke to my AD yesterday and they told me a 4-6 year wait.

[...]

What?!?!
Change AD, com'on!

coolaking · 25 May 2018, 10:10 PM

Do people really still think that if you put your name on an imaginary list in 2018 they will still have your name on that list in 2024 and call you....a lot can happen in 6 years!

25 May 2018, 01:21 AM	#1
DanielWatson "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2017 Real Name: Daniel Watson Location: UK Watch: 16610LN Posts: 111	Pepsi wait I put my name down for the new pepsi the day it came out, and i spoke to my AD yesterday and they told me a 4-6 year wait. What do you think to that? is that fair as in about right or is that taking the piss? should i just wait for it and when i eventually get called just buy it anyway? Thanks for all the input and knowledge from everyone much appreciated. Daniel Watson

25 May 2018, 01:23 AM	#2
tyler1980 "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Houston Posts: 17,622	they probably don't want to manage another list. That is code for "no" Dont bother waiting __________________ Instagram: tyler.watches current collection: Patek 5164A, Patek 5524G, Rolex Platinum Daytona 116506, Rolex Sea Dweller 43 126600, Rolex GMT II 116710LN, AP 15400ST (silver), Panerai 913, Omega Speedmaster moonwatch, Tudor Black Bay (Harrods Edition)

25 May 2018, 01:25 AM	#6
Snow-Dweller 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Real Name: Clive Location: The Alps Watch: collections change Posts: 6,284	Change AD. __________________ . The path from WIShood to WISdom can have many turnings... ——————————————————————————————————— . 16803. 16570. 18038. 114300. GMW-B5000D.

25 May 2018, 12:55 PM	#24
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	Pretty sad when you have to beg to buy a watch. This is nuts SMH __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

25 May 2018, 02:47 PM	#27
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	They don’t value you as a customer. You won’t get this watch unless they value your business. Sad state of affairs but it’s where we are. __________________

25 May 2018, 01:24 AM	#3
c41006 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2015 Real Name: Joshua Location: Atlanta Watch: Pelagos Posts: 7,933	At this point I think any estimate is a wild guess.

25 May 2018, 01:26 AM	#7
bp1000 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Location: Midlands, UK Posts: 4,973	Ridiculous I love my watches and the Rolex brand but waits for watches. No thanks. Either price them to ringfence the elite or make more I’m buying other brands now. In the last 3 years Omega Tudor Jaeger leCoultre My two omega special editions from Basel world 2018 are turning up starting next month Wonderful to walk into an AD:Boutique, see the watch you want, sit down, try it on and haggle to buy it there and then. Rolex was like this 4 years ago. Now it’s just a rubbish experience. Waiting 1-3 years for the main pieces you’ve never seen. Madness

25 May 2018, 01:27 AM	#9
TakeYourTime "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Real Name: Alex Location: California Watch: Changes daily Posts: 410	They don't want to deal with you + they want to avoid that you check permanently regarding the status. Buy more inventory / build a relationship, wait until the model is less hot, buy with a premium at TS/grey, try your luck by traveling (e.g. AD at an airport) or move on and spend your money somewhere else :) Other brands make nice watches, too!

25 May 2018, 01:48 AM	#10
piratepress "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2016 Location: Mobile, AL Watch: BLNR Posts: 748	I wouldn't consider waiting on any watch for 4-6 years. Either move on, or pay a premium from a reseller if you want it that badly!

25 May 2018, 03:19 AM	#11
jerrydlamme "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: CA Posts: 48	4-6 usually means NO! I would switch to another AD...

25 May 2018, 03:48 AM	#13
brucethemanlee "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Location: 1 of 13 Colonies Posts: 8,575	Unfortunately you are not there priority Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

25 May 2018, 03:51 AM	#14
zjd168 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2009 Location: US Posts: 2,698	That means you don't need to be serious on the waiting list of this AD. Anyway you should shop around or buy more from the AD if you want it sooner. Otherwise just wait and it is not too bad if it can arrive in 4 years. It is just a luxury watch where is the urgency?

25 May 2018, 03:59 AM	#15
marc12 Banned Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Marc Location: NH Watch: Blue Steel SD Posts: 614	I know this is another "My AD Said" post, however I just heard yesterday that there is no "list", rather when one comes in the owner of the store will decide who to sell it to. Kinda sucks, but I guess I have a strong case because I did not flip my blue SKyD

25 May 2018, 04:35 AM	#16
SeaDweller50 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2012 Real Name: Sandy Location: England. Watch: 14060M 2 liner Posts: 3,204	No wait list at my AD in West Sussex. Too much hassle apparently.

25 May 2018, 12:51 PM	#17
AutoBay "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: ALS Odysseus Posts: 190	Put yourself in the shoes of the AD for a second. A REALLY, really good AD, with a strong Rolex relationship is gonna get, what, 4-6 of these a year? OF COURSE these are going to previous buyers. It's basic business. Coming in cold off the street and asking for the most valuable relationship chip that an AD has and being shocked that they can't deliver it is just a tad naive, no? Buy something from them. Show that you mean business. As long as you're not dealing with a mega chain like Boucherer, WoS, Tourneau, etc...you'll find that getting the pieces you want only requires some modest patience and mutual respect.

25 May 2018, 12:55 PM	#25
codecow "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Louis Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: PP 5131R Posts: 5,195	Anything under 7 years is good.

25 May 2018, 09:41 PM	#28
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25 May 2018, 10:10 PM	#30
coolaking "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Location: UK Posts: 96	Do people really still think that if you put your name on an imaginary list in 2018 they will still have your name on that list in 2024 and call you....a lot can happen in 6 years!

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