Which watch for an only, daily, 24/7 wearer - 114060 or 116500LN white dial?

[ink3027]

A couple of weeks ago I picked up a 114060 and am really enjoying it so far, it's an incredible watch, something I could see myself wearing for years. But I just spoke with my AD and it looks like my name might be coming up on the list for a 116500LN white dial in the next couple of months -- a stunning piece, surely one that would be difficult (impossible?) to pass on from an AD.

I'm trying to find "the one", an only watch, that I can wear 24/7 and pass along to my son one day. Out of these two options, which would you choose if you could only pick one to wear every day and for every occasion?

Ultimately it will come down to personal preference, as I'm guessing both could fit the bill nicely and be equally versatile and durable. I'm really posting this looking for outside thoughts or opinions that I haven't considered.

[Crimson85]

116500ln

[Dj_masse]

Daytona will always be my vote. I have smaller wrists and it just suits me better.


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[037]

116500LN without a millisecond of hesitation.

[tbonesteak]

One and only, absolutely a Sub - sounds like your AD might be going out of business if someone who just bought a Sub ND as their only watch is coming up soon for a Daytona - either that or he's anchoring your expectations way too high.

[ink3027]

Originally Posted by tbonesteak

One and only, absolutely a Sub - sounds like your AD might be going out of business if someone who just bought a Sub ND as their only watch is coming up soon for a Daytona - either that or he's anchoring your expectations way too high.

I have done business with this AD prior to the Sub.

[Rashid.bk]

The Daytona for me.

[dafuture]

Daytona, without question.

[Brainh18]

The Daytona is way too busy for me. I prefer the simplicity of the Sub.

[tangsuva]

As a person who wears 114060 daily..... the 116500ln in a heartbeat

[kauffee]

I wear a Sub date and a white Daytona. If I had to nail it down to one watch, it would be the Sub without hesitation. But I've always preferred dive watches and I like the toughness and versatility of the Sub. At least 50% of the appeal of the Daytona for me is that it's "The Daytona" and wearing it just feels special.

That said, if you get offered the Daytona you probably should buy it and form your own opinion. As long as you can float the cash, you literally have nothing to lose.

[ink3027]

Originally Posted by kauffee

I wear a Sub date and a white Daytona. If I had to nail it down to one watch, it would be the Sub without hesitation. But I've always preferred dive watches and I like the toughness and versatility of the Sub. At least 50% of the appeal of the Daytona for me is that it's "The Daytona" and wearing it just feels special.

That said, if you get offered the Daytona you probably should buy it and form your own opinion. As long as you can float the cash, you literally have nothing to lose.

The bold portion of your quote is essentially what I'm wrestling with here. I think the Daytona is a gorgeous watch of course, but want to make sure I want it for the watch, not for the aura or hype surrounding it. But with the Daytona, perhaps it's impossible to separate the intangibles from the watch since that's part of the history and attraction.

And your second paragraph nails the practical aspect of the situation. I can't see myself passing on it for this very reason. If after several months or a year it doesn't seem to be the one, then resale is obviously not a problem.

[kauffee]

Originally Posted by ink3027

The bold portion of your quote is essentially what I'm wrestling with here. I think the Daytona is a gorgeous watch of course, but want to make sure I want it for the watch, not for the aura or hype surrounding it. But with the Daytona, perhaps it's impossible to separate the intangibles from the watch since that's part of the history and attraction.

And your second paragraph nails the practical aspect of the situation. I can't see myself passing on it for this very reason. If after several months or a year it doesn't seem to be the one, then resale is obviously not a problem.

Yeah I've put a lot of thought into how much I'd really like the Daytona if it wasn't the Daytona. But like you said, it's nearly impossible to separate the intangibles. I know that the intangibles add a lot to my perception of it, but even without them, it's undeniably a great watch.

[037]

Originally Posted by ink3027

I think the Daytona is a gorgeous watch of course, but want to make sure I want it for the watch, not for the aura or hype surrounding it.

Ask yourself if you care about it being one of the smallest automatic chronographs with a vertical clutch and column wheel, 70+ hours of power reserve and packaged in a movement designed from the ground up to be fully integrated and with far fewer components (201 to be exact) than anything else on the market. Ask yourself if you can sacrifice a date complication in lieu of a chronograph function. Ask yourself if a stopwatch is more important than a diving bezel. Ask yourself if you want a white watch that wears small for its size over a black watch that wears large for its size.

Now, if you were comparing the Daytona with something other than a Sub -- let's say a 1267xx GMT with 3285 inside -- then I might not be as quick to vote for the Daytona. As a one-and-only watch I would likely err on the side of a GMT before anything purely due to functionality. Most people would get more use out of a GMT complication than a chronograph. But, this is Sub vs. Daytona.

Keep in mind that the Sub carries its own hype, just in different ways. There are millions out there because it's what everyone wants to have. I'd opt for anything but a black Sub if hype is even remotely a consideration.

[ink3027]

Originally Posted by 037

Ask yourself if you care about it being one of the smallest automatic chronographs with a vertical clutch and column wheel, 70+ hours of power reserve and packaged in a movement designed from the ground up to be fully integrated and with far fewer components (201 to be exact) than anything else on the market. Ask yourself if you can sacrifice a date complication in lieu of a chronograph function. Ask yourself if a stopwatch is more important than a diving bezel. Ask yourself if you want a white watch that wears small for its size over a black watch that wears large for its size.

Now, if you were comparing the Daytona with something other than a Sub -- let's say a 1267xx GMT with 3285 inside -- then I might not be as quick to vote for the Daytona. As a one-and-only watch I would likely err on the side of a GMT before anything purely due to functionality. Most people would get more use out of a GMT complication than a chronograph. But, this is Sub vs. Daytona.

Keep in mind that the Sub carries its own hype, just in different ways. There are millions out there because it's what everyone wants to have. I'd opt for anything but a black Sub if hype is even remotely a consideration.

Great feedback, I appreciate it. Ton of good points in there. I didn't realize many of those tidbits about the 4130 movement -- very impressive.

One of the main things that makes me want to go Daytona is the case size/shape and how nicely it wears. My wrists are right about 7" and the Daytona seems to feel and fit so nicely.

[Bladeshot]

Originally Posted by kauffee

I wear a Sub date and a white Daytona. If I had to nail it down to one watch, it would be the Sub without hesitation. But I've always preferred dive watches and I like the toughness and versatility of the Sub. At least 50% of the appeal of the Daytona for me is that it's "The Daytona" and wearing it just feels special.

That said, if you get offered the Daytona you probably should buy it and form your own opinion. As long as you can float the cash, you literally have nothing to lose.

This. Completely agree.


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[warrior]

Submariner. Why?

The busyness of the subdials in a chronograph, regardless of whether or not it's the "Daytona", essentially makes every chronograph from every brand look the same to me. Rolex Daytona, AP Chrono, Tag Chrono, Breilting Chrono, Omega Chrono, Timex Chrono, Seiko Chrono. My eyes glaze over. The Daytona, generally speaking, is the LEAST distinctive sport model in the entire Rolex line. Just my opinion.

[hhtwaijri]

Originally Posted by warrior

Submariner. Why?

The busyness of the subdials in a chronograph, regardless of whether or not it's the "Daytona", essentially makes every chronograph from every brand look the same to me. Rolex Daytona, AP Chrono, Tag Chrono, Breilting Chrono, Omega Chrono, Timex Chrono, Seiko Chrono. My eyes glaze over. The Daytona, generally speaking, is the LEAST distinctive sport model in the entire Rolex line. Just my opinion.

What you have is completely true, about the Sub !.. chronographs look completely different, where as dive watches are very similar. Plus, all brands have based their designs on dive watches on the Sub, the bezel, markers, hands... It is an icon yes, but because it's an icon, every other brand copied the design more or less.


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[warrior]

You missed my point...for me, the busier a dial (inside a dial) with sub dials , the more my eyes glaze over, the more a watch blends into the crowd and looks like any other watch. That happens with chronographs. I find chronographs the least distinctive style for that reason, except for the Omega Speedy Pro and a few others. The OP, it seems, wants a more timeless watch to pass on to his son. IMO, the simpler a design, the more timeless a watch is. I personally would tire of the busyness of a chronograph after awhile.

I can tell the difference between a Sub and other dive watches from
Other brands way quicker than the Daytona vs. other chronographs. YMMV.

Originally Posted by hhtwaijri

What you have is completely true, about the Sub !.. chronographs look completely different, where as dive watches are very similar. Plus, all brands have based their designs on dive watches on the Sub, the bezel, markers, hands... It is an icon yes, but because it's an icon, every other brand copied the design more or less.


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[FTX I]

Sub. Glidelock is perfect for daily wear in any situation.

[toolr]

Originally Posted by ftx i

sub. Glidelock is perfect for daily wear in any situation.

+1

[TeddyS]

Everyone will say the Daytona. It’s the most sought after Rolex for some reason


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[T01]

Sub

[mjclark32]

I've worn a 16610 99% of the time for the past 7+ years and it's served me very well... Sub for me

[Tele59]

Sub

[JayHantz]

As a huge fan of both watches, I am leaning more toward the Sub.

Don't get me wrong, the Daytona is iconic, very in demand right now, and gorgeous in its own right. However, the symmetry of the no-date, the brushed bracelet, the glidelock, the uni-directional bezel, and how it looks like the original submariner - I think this is the one.

[Cru Jones]

You can’t wear hype. Which one makes your heart beat faster?

[BVLDARI]

if one and only and especially to pass to your son 100% daytona.

[Justindo]

These are two of my favorite Rolexes and owning both would be a great pair but if I could only have one as a daily, it would be the Daytona. I think it's more versatile, as it dresses up better than a Submariner, and the complication is both more interesting and useful.

[skkali168]

114060- that way it’s clean versatile and never have to worry about date function having wrong date


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