2017 or 2018 SD 50th Anniversary

[Mighelev]

From a collectable point of view which is better?
a. 2017 Mark 1 Face
b. 2018 Mark 1 Face
Or does the year not matter as long as it is has the Mark 1 face in terms of future potential collectability?
Or does the Mark 1 or 2 face not make any difference?
Many thanks in advance.

[WAK4]

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[tmo8320]

Originally Posted by WAK4

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I’m saving this meme!!


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[beshannon]

Perhaps you could post some images and highlight the differences in such "collectible" pieces for the forum?

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by beshannon

Perhaps you could post some images and highlight the differences in such "collectible" pieces for the forum?

3 words and a letter Brian

Flat four
Oval "O"

They are insignificant differences, yet command significant premiums.

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by Devildog

3 words and a letter Brian

Flat four
Oval "O"

They are insignificant differences, yet command significant premiums.

Thanks

At least I now understand why I did not care

Wonder how the timekeeping performance is of the various models?

[037]

Originally Posted by beshannon

Wonder how the timekeeping performance is of the various models?

The Mk1 ticks every 1/4th of a second where the Mk2 ticks every 2/8th of a second. It's a noticeable difference in numerical performance.

[nvrp813]

Originally Posted by 037

The Mk1 ticks every 1/4th of a second where the Mk2 ticks every 2/8th of a second. It's a noticeable difference in numerical performance.

I hope this pops up on a google search one day. Well done!

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by beshannon

Thanks

At least I now understand why I did not care

Wonder how the timekeeping performance is of the various models?

No one cares about timekeeping. What matters is investment potential even though of course everyone says they are not ever selling but want the best investment. Lols.
Who buys watches they like anymore....those are the rare people now. Maybe since we like differentiating so much and separating ourselves from peasant regular Rolex owners we could call the real watch lovers The -wis savant- now.

[jaydav2306]

Does anyone care about the MK1 dial on a Deepsea? Is it more valuable? The answer is no

[TeddyS]

Originally Posted by jaydav2306

Does anyone care about the MK1 dial on a Deepsea? Is it more valuable? The answer is no

I’d suggest that the MK dial on a DSSD is a different proposition because SD43 is an anniversary edition and now a limited one year run ( with the MK1 dial ). I’m not for one minute suggesting that the MK1 dial will become the new flat 4 but if you are looking at possible future collectability and added value then surely the MK1 dial has to be your best bet?


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[jaydav2306]

Originally Posted by TeddyS

I’d suggest that the MK dial on a DSSD is a different proposition because SD43 is an anniversary edition and now a limited one year run ( with the MK1 dial ). I’m not for one minute suggesting that the MK1 dial will become the new flat 4 but if you are looking at possible future collectability and added value then surely the MK1 dial has to be your best bet?


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It's not a limited run

[TeddyS]

Originally Posted by jaydav2306

It's not a limited run

If that dial was made for 1year I believe that makes it a limited run


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[Devildog]

Originally Posted by jaydav2306

It's not a limited run

Rolex Ref 126600 with the "|swiss|made|" dial is effectively a 1 year run (unless both dial types are being manufactured simultaneously)

Not sure what part of that is not "limited"

[Chaching]

Originally Posted by Devildog

Rolex Ref 126600 with the "|swiss|made|" dial is effectively a 1 year run (unless both dial types are being manufactured simultaneously)

Not sure what part of that is not "limited"

Exactly! Well put!

[TeddyS]

Originally Posted by Devildog

Rolex Ref 126600 with the "|swiss|made|" dial is effectively a 1 year run (unless both dial types are being manufactured simultaneously)



Not sure what part of that is not "limited"

Said far more succinctly that I could of put it


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[Dusko.Popov]

Originally Posted by Devildog

Rolex Ref 126600 with the "|swiss|made|" dial is effectively a 1 year run (unless both dial types are being manufactured simultaneously)

Not sure what part of that is not "limited"

It would be easier to time stamp that “one-year” proclamation once people aren’t still receiving non-crown, mk1 dials, from ads. To my knowledge, and as evidenced by recent incoming threads, they’re still coming in “non-crowned.” If I was an owner of a 126600 with a mk1 dial, and I wanted to consider it a limited, unique, offering, with meaningful future collectibility I’d hope that “incomings” into 2019 aren’t still “non-crowned.”

Right now, nearly 15 months and counting after release, they are still being received with a mk1 dial.

But to be fair, f-serial 16610lvs were available into 2004 (January, 2004 is when I bought mine) and they still command a premium because of the bezel distinction. So even if the 126600 mk1 isn’t a sincere one-year deal, they still may still hold some extra value consideration relative to their mkx counterparts.

Who knows right?

Nice watch the sd43 is. But for my money, I’ll take a 116600 if I’m making a bet on collectibility. Whatever your thoughts are on the 126600 - sea dweller purists or not - the fact is that the 116600, as an entire flippin reference, was produced for 30 months. It sparsely sold during that 30 months. And it represents the last time that a traditional sea dweller silhouette was available.

[rudestew]

Originally Posted by jaydav2306

It's not a limited run

Your right its not a limited run ........it was a limited run

[Dusko.Popov]

Originally Posted by rudestew

Your right its not a limited run ........it was a limited run

To the best of any of our knowledge, watches are still being received with mk1 dials. That can be a function of still exhausting old dials during the production process or Rolex can be exhausting the last of 126600s in the supply chain.

But what we don’t know is that mk1 dials are done. Until all incomings are mk2, we can just guess.

[crazycarlitos]

Originally Posted by jaydav2306

It's not a limited run

u must have meant "its not a limited edition".... since sd43 with mk1 dial was manufactured for a "limited" time (hence, limited run)

Rolex doesn't do limited edition like Omega.
They make slight changes, especially on the dial, that WIS go ga-ga over.

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by jaydav2306

Does anyone care about the MK1 dial on a Deepsea? Is it more valuable? The answer is no

Are you talking about a 116660 vs a 126660?

[shalako]

The Mk 2 is worthless, you might as well give it away.

[Devildog]

Originally Posted by Mighelev

From a collectable point of view which is better?
a. 2017 Mark 1 Face
b. 2018 Mark 1 Face
Or does the year not matter as long as it is has the Mark 1 face in terms of future potential collectability?
Or does the Mark 1 or 2 face not make any difference?
Many thanks in advance.

If the 50th anniversary SD43 becomes a future collectible, in the way that the 50th anniversary Submariner LV has now become, then without a doubt the MK1 dial and 2017 purchase will be the preferred option among collectors. It will be seen as the true "anniversary" dial.

If it does not become collectible, then it will make zero difference. Condition and age will be key, not what dial option or purchase date it had.

[harvey]

nevermind collectibility...do you even like this reference?!

my buying behaviour goes thru many many questions before I think about collectibility!

[Etschell]

buy the sd4k if you care about it being potentially collectible.

that said i don't buy watches for that reason. i buy them for a more obscure reason - because i like the way they look.

[Infinity]

If your going to speculate, the 2017 MK1 must be your choice.

[Rashid.bk]

Originally Posted by Devildog

If the 50th anniversary SD43 becomes a future collectible, in the way that the 50th anniversary Submariner LV has now become, then without a doubt the MK1 dial and 2017 purchase will be the preferred option among collectors. It will be seen as the true "anniversary" dial.

If it does not become collectible, then it will make zero difference. Condition and age will be key, not what dial option or purchase date it had.

Originally Posted by Infinity

If your going to speculate, the 2017 MK1 must be your choice.

What's the difference between a Mk1 from 2017 and a Mk1 2018 or a NOS Mk1 bought in 2020?

[normalboywatches]

Has anyone actually received a MK2 dial yet?

[joli160]

Originally Posted by Rashid.bk

What's the difference between a Mk1 from 2017 and a Mk1 2018 or a NOS Mk1 bought in 2020?

I don't even want to know, pffff

[nvrp813]

I really have a hard time envisioning how any SS Rolex will be collectible. Everyone squirrels these away now. It’s not like 50 years ago when they were used and abused, leaving few good examples left.