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Robbyman · 24 July 2018, 07:19 AM

I currently have three Rolex;

DaytonaC white dial
GMT Pepsi Ceramic
Submariner 16610

I love the Daytona and it is my special day/weekend piece. My favourite by far.

I love the Pepsi and I enjoy this just about everyday.

The Sub gets no wrist time, the Pepsi makes it redundant so far. My idea is to switch this for an OP39mm black dial which I think is so understated and classy. I also think I would really wear this piece for meetings and in the office etc. Nice to wear an under the radar watch sometimes. I like the history of the OP as well.

A PM piece will be added down the road, probably a Daytona.

I just wondered if you guys would make the swap to a OP from the Sub given what I have?

Thanks in advance,

Rob.

FTX I · 24 July 2018, 07:24 AM

I would not trade a 5 digit Sub for the OP. No way. IMHO it's very different from the other two that you own.

brandrea · 24 July 2018, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FTX I

I would not trade a 5 digit Sub for the OP. No way. IMHO it's very different from the other two that you own.

X about a billion

I suppose if the Sub just isn’t your thing tho ....

The Libertine · 24 July 2018, 11:00 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FTX I

I would not trade a 5 digit Sub for the OP. No way. IMHO it's very different from the other two that you own.

Agree with Flavio. Never, not ever, would I consider parting with a 5-digit Submariner.

Pavlos · 24 July 2018, 07:27 AM

Keep the Sub and buy OP as well

SpeakWithMichael · 24 July 2018, 07:36 AM

Getting rid of a 5-digit sub? Yup. That's a future entry in the "Regrets" thread.

AJMarcus · 24 July 2018, 07:39 AM

Keep the best sub they made IMO. If you wait about six moths should be able to pickup the OP at a good price from a trusted seller.

Colin10101 · 24 July 2018, 08:53 AM

There is literally 0 chance I make that trade if I was in your position. The sub is a much nicer watch in my opinion.

Hansch99 · 24 July 2018, 09:01 AM

If it were for a 6 digit Datejust I’d say go for it, but I wouldn’t give up the Sub for the OP.

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GBD · 24 July 2018, 09:07 AM

If you don't wear it, sell it. An unworn watch is just a paperweight.

HankScorpio · 24 July 2018, 09:37 AM

To me it's not about what you have, but how you feel. If you aren't wearing the sub and think you would get more enjoyment from the OP then go for it!

I made a change recently from a 16710 to a 114060. I imagine if I solicited feedback prior, I would have heard "never, add rather than trade, the 16710 is a classic and they aren't making more" etc. All fair points, but for me it was the right change. I love the 114060 and have never looked back.

Justindo · 24 July 2018, 09:39 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HankScorpio

To me it's not about what you have, but how you feel. If you aren't wearing the sub and think you would get more enjoyment from the OP then go for it!

I made a change recently from a 16710 to a 114060. I imagine if I solicited feedback prior, I would have heard "never, add rather than trade, the 16710 is a classic and they aren't making more" etc. All fair points, but for me it was the right change. I love the 114060 and have never looked back.

Excellent advice.

stmoore · 24 July 2018, 09:43 AM

The 16610 is an icon. Keep it. I promise you will miss it over time.

That said, the OP (new black or white dial) is extremely nice. It's not expensive - just add it.

Maiden · 25 July 2018, 09:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HankScorpio

To me it's not about what you have, but how you feel. If you aren't wearing the sub and think you would get more enjoyment from the OP then go for it!

I made a change recently from a 16710 to a 114060. I imagine if I solicited feedback prior, I would have heard "never, add rather than trade, the 16710 is a classic and they aren't making more" etc. All fair points, but for me it was the right change. I love the 114060 and have never looked back.

Right on, buy what YOU will enjoy

droptopman · 24 July 2018, 09:44 AM

Trade a Sub...blasphemy unless it is for a different Sub

If you are not wearing it, then making a change may be a good thing. How do you see yourself using the OP in your rotation?

Brew · 24 July 2018, 09:57 AM

Go for it! No need to keep a paperweight around.

elkaholic · 24 July 2018, 10:15 AM

Go for it if the sub gets no wrist time and you are interested in the black OP more.

I think the black OP 39 looks great. And I’ve had more than one 5 digit sub date....I’ll also tell you I don’t think I’ve seen a watch that appeals to me visually more than a sub or sub date. But, I got to a point in the last year or more where the comfort of a luxury purchase of a few thousand dollars became paramount to me personally. The subs, as much as I like them, were never (in any version) as comfortable as 36/39mm Rolex offerings, which meant I didn’t wear them as often as I had hoped.

Just my experience.

dubins930 · 24 July 2018, 10:59 AM

If its not getting wrist time why not? The 5 series sub is great but it's no good if you dont use it. The OP would be a great choice!

Pw92676 · 24 July 2018, 11:01 AM

I would keep sub, if anything just add OP

gccmd · 24 July 2018, 11:03 AM

You need to do what makes you happy although I personally would hold onto the Sub.

TheRolexKingofLV · 24 July 2018, 11:20 AM

I would keep the Sub.

soundserious · 24 July 2018, 12:04 PM

Move the sub and start saving for the next one. Maybe a Patek Calatrava?

Easy E · 24 July 2018, 12:57 PM

Just a thought here. The ceramic BLRO hasn’t been out long enough to throw in the towel on another piece. Give this a bit of time. I, too, have a new BLRO. I’ve worn it everyday since I got it. But, maybe a month or two more and you can let this settle. I’m betting you will regret smoking the sub.

That said, if you are truly done with it, move on, rock the OP

Robbyman · 25 July 2018, 07:23 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Easy E

Just a thought here. The ceramic BLRO hasn’t been out long enough to throw in the towel on another piece. Give this a bit of time. I, too, have a new BLRO. I’ve worn it everyday since I got it. But, maybe a month or two more and you can let this settle. I’m betting you will regret smoking the sub.

That said, if you are truly done with it, move on, rock the OP

Well said, I think that is what I will do.

Jack T · 24 July 2018, 06:58 PM

Not a big fan of the 39mm OP

AK797 · 24 July 2018, 08:04 PM

Sounds like you want a dressy piece so the OP or DJ would be the way to go... or a Lange Saxonia, great value for a Haute piece.

KBM · 24 July 2018, 09:04 PM

I really like the OP, but love the sub.

1William · 24 July 2018, 09:09 PM

I would sit tight with the Submariner and pick up the OP. For your collection I would not trade a thing.

mailman · 24 July 2018, 09:14 PM

You have to be happy. If a watch isn't getting any wrist time, why keep it unless it has sentimental value? I've had my share of 5 digit Submariners in the past. As comfortable as they are, it's easy to move on from them. I say make the move. It's easy enough to reverse if you aren't happy

harvey · 24 July 2018, 09:09 PM

Robby I would consider that as a downward trade and not one I can see any benefits of.

24 July 2018, 07:19 AM	#1
Robbyman "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Blighty (England) Watch: Daytona/Pepsi/Sub Posts: 1,517	Sub for OP39mm... I currently have three Rolex; DaytonaC white dial GMT Pepsi Ceramic Submariner 16610 I love the Daytona and it is my special day/weekend piece. My favourite by far. I love the Pepsi and I enjoy this just about everyday. The Sub gets no wrist time, the Pepsi makes it redundant so far. My idea is to switch this for an OP39mm black dial which I think is so understated and classy. I also think I would really wear this piece for meetings and in the office etc. Nice to wear an under the radar watch sometimes. I like the history of the OP as well. A PM piece will be added down the road, probably a Daytona. I just wondered if you guys would make the swap to a OP from the Sub given what I have? Thanks in advance, Rob.

24 July 2018, 08:53 AM	#8
Colin10101 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2014 Real Name: Colin Location: Toronto Watch: 16710 Posts: 1,336	There is literally 0 chance I make that trade if I was in your position. The sub is a much nicer watch in my opinion. __________________ Rolex GMT-Master II 16710 "Z" Serial COKE Montblanc 1858 Iced Sea *BLACK*

24 July 2018, 09:44 AM	#15
droptopman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Real Name: Mark Location: Washington State Watch: SUBS and GMT's! Posts: 9,664	Trade a Sub...blasphemy unless it is for a different Sub If you are not wearing it, then making a change may be a good thing. How do you see yourself using the OP in your rotation? __________________ Judge Smails: Ty, what did you shoot today? Ty: Oh, Judge, I don't keep score. Judge Smails: Then how do you measure yourself with other golfers? Ty: By height.

24 July 2018, 10:15 AM	#17
elkaholic "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Location: ATL Watch: Rolex Posts: 683	Go for it if the sub gets no wrist time and you are interested in the black OP more. I think the black OP 39 looks great. And I’ve had more than one 5 digit sub date....I’ll also tell you I don’t think I’ve seen a watch that appeals to me visually more than a sub or sub date. But, I got to a point in the last year or more where the comfort of a luxury purchase of a few thousand dollars became paramount to me personally. The subs, as much as I like them, were never (in any version) as comfortable as 36/39mm Rolex offerings, which meant I didn’t wear them as often as I had hoped. Just my experience. __________________ 16570 Exp II White 16220 DJ silver stick 16233 DJ champagne stick

24 July 2018, 11:20 AM	#21
TheRolexKingofLV "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Trace Location: Vegas/Bay Area Posts: 9,234	I would keep the Sub. __________________ Official Host "The Penthouse Party" Las Vegas 2018 Instagram @tracenunes

24 July 2018, 07:24 AM	#2
FTX I "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2013 Real Name: Flavio Location: N/A Posts: 14,654	I would not trade a 5 digit Sub for the OP. No way. IMHO it's very different from the other two that you own.

24 July 2018, 07:27 AM	#5
Pavlos "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: London Posts: 760	Keep the Sub and buy OP as well

24 July 2018, 07:36 AM	#6
SpeakWithMichael "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Jacksonville, FL Watch: Superocean 44not42 Posts: 1,757	Getting rid of a 5-digit sub? Yup. That's a future entry in the "Regrets" thread.

24 July 2018, 07:39 AM	#7
AJMarcus "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Real Name: AJ Location: USA Watch: Swiss Posts: 5,238	Keep the best sub they made IMO. If you wait about six moths should be able to pickup the OP at a good price from a trusted seller.

24 July 2018, 09:01 AM	#9
Hansch99 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: USA Watch: 14060M, 116200 Posts: 318	If it were for a 6 digit Datejust I’d say go for it, but I wouldn’t give up the Sub for the OP. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

24 July 2018, 09:07 AM	#10
GBD "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Texas Posts: 442	If you don't wear it, sell it. An unworn watch is just a paperweight.

24 July 2018, 09:37 AM	#11
HankScorpio "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: Denver Posts: 223	To me it's not about what you have, but how you feel. If you aren't wearing the sub and think you would get more enjoyment from the OP then go for it! I made a change recently from a 16710 to a 114060. I imagine if I solicited feedback prior, I would have heard "never, add rather than trade, the 16710 is a classic and they aren't making more" etc. All fair points, but for me it was the right change. I love the 114060 and have never looked back.

24 July 2018, 09:43 AM	#13
stmoore Banned Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: US Watch: Gilt Posts: 1,592	The 16610 is an icon. Keep it. I promise you will miss it over time. That said, the OP (new black or white dial) is extremely nice. It's not expensive - just add it.

24 July 2018, 09:57 AM	#16
Brew "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Larry Location: Finger Lakes Posts: 6,007	Go for it! No need to keep a paperweight around.

24 July 2018, 10:59 AM	#18
dubins930 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Aaron Location: WA Posts: 840	If its not getting wrist time why not? The 5 series sub is great but it's no good if you dont use it. The OP would be a great choice!

24 July 2018, 11:01 AM	#19
Pw92676 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Georgia Posts: 6,309	I would keep sub, if anything just add OP

24 July 2018, 11:03 AM	#20
gccmd "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2016 Location: Arizona Posts: 444	You need to do what makes you happy although I personally would hold onto the Sub.

24 July 2018, 12:04 PM	#22
soundserious "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: usofmfa Posts: 3,157	Move the sub and start saving for the next one. Maybe a Patek Calatrava? __________________ Instagram: soundsoserious

24 July 2018, 12:57 PM	#23
Easy E 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: GA Posts: 5,075	Just a thought here. The ceramic BLRO hasn’t been out long enough to throw in the towel on another piece. Give this a bit of time. I, too, have a new BLRO. I’ve worn it everyday since I got it. But, maybe a month or two more and you can let this settle. I’m betting you will regret smoking the sub. That said, if you are truly done with it, move on, rock the OP

24 July 2018, 06:58 PM	#25
Jack T "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2013 Real Name: Jack Location: The Triangle Watch: Several Posts: 6,719	Not a big fan of the 39mm OP __________________ Sub 116613 LN; GMT 116710 LN; Sinn 104R; Exp 214270; GS SBGM221; Omega AT

24 July 2018, 08:04 PM	#26
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	Sounds like you want a dressy piece so the OP or DJ would be the way to go... or a Lange Saxonia, great value for a Haute piece.

24 July 2018, 09:04 PM	#27
KBM 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2010 Real Name: K. Location: 780 Posts: 10,460	I really like the OP, but love the sub.

24 July 2018, 09:09 PM	#28
1William 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: North Carolina Watch: Rolex/Others Posts: 47,764	I would sit tight with the Submariner and pick up the OP. For your collection I would not trade a thing.

24 July 2018, 09:14 PM	#29
mailman TRF Moderator & SubLV41 2024 Patron Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: . Watch: 126610LN Posts: 35,510	You have to be happy. If a watch isn't getting any wrist time, why keep it unless it has sentimental value? I've had my share of 5 digit Submariners in the past. As comfortable as they are, it's easy to move on from them. I say make the move. It's easy enough to reverse if you aren't happy __________________ JJ

24 July 2018, 09:09 PM	#30
harvey "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Location: rolexforums.com Posts: 5,435	Robby I would consider that as a downward trade and not one I can see any benefits of.

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