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Mocking Jay · 30 July 2018, 05:44 PM

Hello guys,

Few days ago there was sunoil spilled on my watch, few drops with the wind.

The same day I cleaned my watch as I do everyday in the summer. Now I see on the ceramic bezel the drops/stains are still there, tried to clean it 3x on a row, I use wristclean.

But it doesn’t help. When I dry my watch, it’s still there. I’m always very carefull to my watch, I didn’t see this coming.

I should have cleaned the watch straight away when the few drops hit my watch, I think it burned in with the sun now. Which I don’t understand this is even possible. The stains/drops are like, (you make your watch wet, and you don’t dry it)

Now my questions is, what are my options?
My watch is now like dirty, (the ceramic bezel)

Thanks in advance!

rolexandrolex · 30 July 2018, 05:47 PM

any photos?

Mocking Jay · 30 July 2018, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by rolexandrolex

any photos?

I only have an iPhone I don’t think I can get that on picture as a ‘macro shot’ ..

SearChart · 30 July 2018, 05:47 PM

Stop using wrist clean, soft brush, warm water and dish washing liquid if how you remove stains.

An occasional ultrasonic cleaning for the bracelet will keep it nice and clean in between the links.

Mocking Jay · 30 July 2018, 05:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by SearChart

Stop using wrist clean, soft brush, warm water and dish washing liquid if how you remove stains.

An occasional ultrasonic cleaning for the bracelet will keep it nice and clean in between the links.

I tried dish soap to remove it, it didn’t help. I think the drops are burned in the ceramic bezel, I don’t know how that’s even possible but I don’t see another theory...

Toivonen · 30 July 2018, 06:08 PM

If you insist in trying to clean it you’ll end to scratch and do some lines on the index. Leave it, RSC Williams clean it perfectly during service (or, if it bothers so much you can’t live with it, let them clean it for you)

Tomas Eriksson · 30 July 2018, 08:37 PM

Im pretty confident the cream hasn't somehow magically bonded with the ceramic. Acetone/nail polish remover and a q-tip should do the trick.

REFZ · 30 July 2018, 08:44 PM

Maybe a little brakecleaner will help.

V25V · 2 August 2018, 02:25 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by REFZ

Maybe a little brakecleaner will help.

LOL, definitely do not do this.

padi56 · 30 July 2018, 08:45 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mocking Jay

Hello guys,

Few days ago there was sunoil spilled on my watch, few drops with the wind.

The same day I cleaned my watch as I do everyday in the summer. Now I see on the ceramic bezel the drops/stains are still there, tried to clean it 3x on a row, I use wristclean.

But it doesn’t help. When I dry my watch, it’s still there. I’m always very carefull to my watch, I didn’t see this coming.

I should have cleaned the watch straight away when the few drops hit my watch, I think it burned in with the sun now. Which I don’t understand this is even possible. The stains/drops are like, (you make your watch wet, and you don’t dry it)

Now my questions is, what are my options?
My watch is now like dirty, (the ceramic bezel)

Thanks in advance!

Post a picture of these mark stains,but if it cannot be removed by washing with simple soap and water.Then would expect the ceramic has had some sort of reaction to whatever chemical you put on it.One of the many downsides of ceramic inserts, mark or crack them very expensive to replace and back to Rolex for replacement.

joli160 · 30 July 2018, 10:55 PM

As a last resort if anything else fails and you're willing to replace it .... Rub the complete bezel with the same sun oil for a uniform look

rolexandrolex · 30 July 2018, 11:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by joli160

As a last resort if anything else fails and you're willing to replace it .... Rub the complete bezel with the same sun oil for a uniform look

it may end up with a unique matte black ceramic bezel of your own.

fskywalker · 2 August 2018, 06:46 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexandrolex

it may end up with a unique matte black ceramic bezel of your own.

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ryankelly · 30 July 2018, 11:10 PM

FWIW sunscreen can absolutely wreck a car's paint job: https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/959...-car-paintwork

I have no idea if the physical process with what happened to you is similar (i.e., no idea what was in your sunoil, no idea if the finishing/top layer on a ceramic bezel is similar to those of a car's coat of paint), but it wouldn't shock me.

nektar · 30 July 2018, 11:34 PM

This is interesting, and probably Rolex is not aware of that. Why do not you call them?

DocHolliday · 30 July 2018, 11:47 PM

Please try and post some pics OP. I would be very surprised and interested to see this happen. I work with zirconia almost every day and it is extremely durable and very chemically stable. Also if you could post a picture of the ingredients of the sun oil you used so we can see if there is any ingredient that may be possibly reactive to the ceramic.

FWIW mine gets coated with everything from sunscreen to acid etching materials and chemical cleansers and I have never seen any permanent staining or changes.

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envuks · 30 July 2018, 11:48 PM

I have a permanent sunscreen hand print on the passenger door to my BMW from a beach trip a few years ago. Many detailing sessions later and it’s still a little bit present. Sunscreen can be rough, but I’ve never heard of it impacting a Rolex at all. I’ve never had issues and certainly covered my watch in sunscreen many times by accident when applying it.

I’d call Rolex and see what they say

kauffee · 30 July 2018, 11:49 PM

I’ve had quite a bit of sunscreen on my Sub with no ill effects. Post the type of “sunoil” you were using.

Mocking Jay · 31 July 2018, 07:00 AM

Hey guys,

Many thanks for all the replies.
i will try and take pics tomorrow.

Here’s the sunoil I used.

johnbeerens . COM/australian-gold-bronzing-dry-oil-spray-intensifier

(I’m from Belgium)
But I’m sure u can find the ingredients somewhere in english.

Thanks in advance

Byrdguy · 31 July 2018, 07:22 AM

Buy some Simichrome metal polish and use it to polish the bezel. It should remove the stains, and make the bezel look like new. Just a tiny dab on an old soft cloth like a Tshirt or use a QTip and you should be good. I have a Hulk and use Simichrome on all the shiny parts of the watch. It will shine up the brushed surfaces so mask them off. It is a very mild polish and you will find many things to use it on. I've worn a Sub of some sort since the mid 80s and used that polish on all of them. My Hulk is a 2011 and it stays new looking. It won't remove deep scratches or gouges but I think it'll do what you want it to do in this case.

DARK_KNIGHT · 31 July 2018, 02:13 PM

Sunoil is Sunscreen or Sun tanning lotion?

SeaAndSky · 31 July 2018, 02:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DARK_KNIGHT

Sunoil is Sunscreen or Sun tanning lotion?

People still use sun tanning lotion?

Muxi · 31 July 2018, 03:27 PM

Will toothpaste work as a mild abrasive?

Tomas Eriksson · 1 August 2018, 05:33 PM

No picture? Is the issue resolved?

Mocking Jay · 1 August 2018, 11:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Tomas Eriksson

No picture? Is the issue resolved?

Not resolved, don’t know how to..
Tried taking pics with my iPhone.

melrob1 · 2 August 2018, 12:11 AM

To start I would mix two parts white vinegar to one part water. Then dap on a microfiber and then try to clean the bezel a few times.
If that doesn’t work go buy some simple green cleaner. Works on tons of stuff and is not toxic or abrasive.
If that doesn’t work try the magic eraser.
Also was thinking a clay bar that is used for vehicle detailing. Just not sure. It doesn’t take off the clear coat and does take out all types of deposits on paint without causing damage.

Pureform · 2 August 2018, 12:16 AM

guess now we can say to all the vintage naysayers that ceramic bezels do patina

melrob1 · 2 August 2018, 12:16 AM

Also as an easy thing try a pencil eraser.

rolexandrolex · 2 August 2018, 12:26 AM

looks like a long duration sun burn induced some kind of chemical reaction between the sunoil and the cerramic!

Tomas Eriksson · 2 August 2018, 01:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by rolexandrolex

looks like a long duration sun burn induced some kind of chemical reaction between the sunoil and the cerramic!

pretty confident that is not the case

30 July 2018, 05:44 PM	#1
Mocking Jay "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: BE Posts: 16	Submariner Ceramic Bezel - replacement Hello guys, Few days ago there was sunoil spilled on my watch, few drops with the wind. The same day I cleaned my watch as I do everyday in the summer. Now I see on the ceramic bezel the drops/stains are still there, tried to clean it 3x on a row, I use wristclean. But it doesn’t help. When I dry my watch, it’s still there. I’m always very carefull to my watch, I didn’t see this coming. I should have cleaned the watch straight away when the few drops hit my watch, I think it burned in with the sun now. Which I don’t understand this is even possible. The stains/drops are like, (you make your watch wet, and you don’t dry it) Now my questions is, what are my options? My watch is now like dirty, (the ceramic bezel) Thanks in advance!

30 July 2018, 06:08 PM	#6
Toivonen "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Vittorio Location: Italy Watch: SeaDweller Deepsea Posts: 1,001	If you insist in trying to clean it you’ll end to scratch and do some lines on the index. Leave it, RSC Williams clean it perfectly during service (or, if it bothers so much you can’t live with it, let them clean it for you) __________________ No HEV? No Party!!! If you LOVE the Sea Dweller... Join the "BDV" https://www.instagram.com/bandadellavalvola/ https://www.facebook.com/bandadellavalvola/ http://orologi.forumfree.it/?t=75294392

30 July 2018, 08:37 PM	#7
Tomas Eriksson "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Stockholm Watch: 15707CE Posts: 2,027	Im pretty confident the cream hasn't somehow magically bonded with the ceramic. Acetone/nail polish remover and a q-tip should do the trick. __________________ State of the union: 5066A,15400ST,15707CE,116610LN,26470OR and a few other…

30 July 2018, 08:44 PM	#8
REFZ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Martin Location: Netherlands Watch: The Rolex Way Posts: 1,471	Maybe a little brakecleaner will help. __________________ 114060 - 116520 - 126334

30 July 2018, 10:55 PM	#11
joli160 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NL Watch: Yachtmaster Posts: 14,757	As a last resort if anything else fails and you're willing to replace it .... Rub the complete bezel with the same sun oil for a uniform look __________________ Day Date 18238, Yachtmaster 16622, Deepsea 116660, Submariner 116619, SkyD 326935, DJ 178271, DJ 69158, Yachtmaster 169622, GMT 116713LN, GMT 126711.

30 July 2018, 05:47 PM	#2
rolexandrolex Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Asia Posts: 38	any photos?

30 July 2018, 11:10 PM	#14
ryankelly "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: New Jersey Posts: 33	FWIW sunscreen can absolutely wreck a car's paint job: https://www.stuff.co.nz/business/959...-car-paintwork I have no idea if the physical process with what happened to you is similar (i.e., no idea what was in your sunoil, no idea if the finishing/top layer on a ceramic bezel is similar to those of a car's coat of paint), but it wouldn't shock me.

30 July 2018, 11:34 PM	#15
nektar "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2009 Location: Louisiana Watch: 114060 Posts: 1,678	This is interesting, and probably Rolex is not aware of that. Why do not you call them?

30 July 2018, 11:47 PM	#16
DocHolliday "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Tortuga Posts: 311	Please try and post some pics OP. I would be very surprised and interested to see this happen. I work with zirconia almost every day and it is extremely durable and very chemically stable. Also if you could post a picture of the ingredients of the sun oil you used so we can see if there is any ingredient that may be possibly reactive to the ceramic. FWIW mine gets coated with everything from sunscreen to acid etching materials and chemical cleansers and I have never seen any permanent staining or changes. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

30 July 2018, 11:48 PM	#17
envuks 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New England Posts: 3,741	I have a permanent sunscreen hand print on the passenger door to my BMW from a beach trip a few years ago. Many detailing sessions later and it’s still a little bit present. Sunscreen can be rough, but I’ve never heard of it impacting a Rolex at all. I’ve never had issues and certainly covered my watch in sunscreen many times by accident when applying it. I’d call Rolex and see what they say __________________ Current watches: 116718ln, 116500 black dial, 40mm Breitling Chronomat MOP dial “A man with one watch always knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.”

30 July 2018, 11:49 PM	#18
kauffee 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Portland, OR Watch: 116610LN, 116500LN Posts: 1,385	I’ve had quite a bit of sunscreen on my Sub with no ill effects. Post the type of “sunoil” you were using.

31 July 2018, 07:00 AM	#19
Mocking Jay "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: BE Posts: 16	Submariner Ceramic Bezel - replacement Hey guys, Many thanks for all the replies. i will try and take pics tomorrow. Here’s the sunoil I used. johnbeerens . COM/australian-gold-bronzing-dry-oil-spray-intensifier (I’m from Belgium) But I’m sure u can find the ingredients somewhere in english. Thanks in advance

31 July 2018, 07:22 AM	#20
Byrdguy "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Florida Panhandle Watch: Sub C LV, Posts: 490	Buy some Simichrome metal polish and use it to polish the bezel. It should remove the stains, and make the bezel look like new. Just a tiny dab on an old soft cloth like a Tshirt or use a QTip and you should be good. I have a Hulk and use Simichrome on all the shiny parts of the watch. It will shine up the brushed surfaces so mask them off. It is a very mild polish and you will find many things to use it on. I've worn a Sub of some sort since the mid 80s and used that polish on all of them. My Hulk is a 2011 and it stays new looking. It won't remove deep scratches or gouges but I think it'll do what you want it to do in this case.

31 July 2018, 02:13 PM	#21
DARK_KNIGHT "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Jack Location: Dothan Watch: Cartier Posts: 1,236	Sunoil is Sunscreen or Sun tanning lotion? __________________ "The difference between stupidity and genius is that genius has its limits."

31 July 2018, 03:27 PM	#23
Muxi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: Philippines Posts: 1,823	Will toothpaste work as a mild abrasive?

1 August 2018, 05:33 PM	#24
Tomas Eriksson "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: Stockholm Watch: 15707CE Posts: 2,027	No picture? Is the issue resolved? __________________ State of the union: 5066A,15400ST,15707CE,116610LN,26470OR and a few other…

2 August 2018, 12:11 AM	#26
melrob1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2013 Location: Colorado Posts: 968	To start I would mix two parts white vinegar to one part water. Then dap on a microfiber and then try to clean the bezel a few times. If that doesn’t work go buy some simple green cleaner. Works on tons of stuff and is not toxic or abrasive. If that doesn’t work try the magic eraser. Also was thinking a clay bar that is used for vehicle detailing. Just not sure. It doesn’t take off the clear coat and does take out all types of deposits on paint without causing damage.

2 August 2018, 12:16 AM	#27
Pureform Banned Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Florida Posts: 278	guess now we can say to all the vintage naysayers that ceramic bezels do patina

2 August 2018, 12:26 AM	#29
rolexandrolex Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Asia Posts: 38	looks like a long duration sun burn induced some kind of chemical reaction between the sunoil and the cerramic!

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