A month’s salary on your wrist (Article)

[Kyle3130]

This article accurately sums up exactly why I made the decision to purchase my Sub a little over 5 years ago. In my line of work (military) it is essential to have a reliable, tested, and proven workhorse like the Sub with me at all times. For the last 5 years and through 2 of my 4 deployments, it hasn’t skipped a beat. Since June 1st it has averaged + 0.72 second per day. Suffice it to say, I LOVE MY SUB! By the way, it cost me a little more than a month’s salary at the time of purchase.

https://soflete.com/blogs/knowledge/...-on-your-wrist

[JUSTIFIED]

Great article and thanks for your service!

[brandrea]

Thanks for sharing this Kyle.

[accountank2000]

I do get why someone would trust a Sub for their adventures in the jungle, up a mountain, or in a warzone, rather than a multifunctional smartwatch which needs to find a USB outlet every day.

Still, the article is a bit OTT when it tries to hammer the point home with comments like "When initiating a time fuse on a demolition charge, I want to know my watch won’t die while I wait for the explosion."

Of course you want something more dependable than an 'iPhone for the wrist', but I'm not convinced you need a $10k watch filled with cogs and rotors that's a few seconds off each day, when you could just get a Gshock for a couple of hundred dollars and know that the accuracy is tightened up to a few seconds a year instead of a few seconds a day and the battery will last a couple of years.

[Kyle3130]

Originally Posted by accountank2000

I do get why someone would trust a Sub for their adventures in the jungle, up a mountain, or in a warzone, rather than a multifunctional smartwatch which needs to find a USB outlet every day.

Still, the article is a bit OTT when it tries to hammer the point home with comments like "When initiating a time fuse on a demolition charge, I want to know my watch won’t die while I wait for the explosion."

Of course you want something more dependable than an 'iPhone for the wrist', but I'm not convinced you need a $10k watch filled with cogs and rotors that's a few seconds off each day, when you could just get a Gshock for a couple of hundred dollars and know that the accuracy is tightened up to a few seconds a year instead of a few seconds a day and the battery will last a couple of years.

The author clearly states that what you quoted is “an extreme example” Wouldn’t you want a watch that can cover all your bases every time you need it to rather than just most of them most of the time? For me that piece of mind in the field renders price irrelevant.

[Mephist]

Originally Posted by accountank2000

I do get why someone would trust a Sub for their adventures in the jungle, up a mountain, or in a warzone, rather than a multifunctional smartwatch which needs to find a USB outlet every day.

Still, the article is a bit OTT when it tries to hammer the point home with comments like "When initiating a time fuse on a demolition charge, I want to know my watch won’t die while I wait for the explosion."

Of course you want something more dependable than an 'iPhone for the wrist', but I'm not convinced you need a $10k watch filled with cogs and rotors that's a few seconds off each day, when you could just get a Gshock for a couple of hundred dollars and know that the accuracy is tightened up to a few seconds a year instead of a few seconds a day and the battery will last a couple of years.

Yes I agree with this, a G-Shock would be a better option, a GW-5000 will probably last you 10 years before changing battery because of the solar power. It also got 200m water resistance. You could also buy a new G-Shock every year for 20 years and more for the price of one Rolex.

[WJGESQ]

Originally Posted by accountank2000

I do get why someone would trust a Sub for their adventures in the jungle, up a mountain, or in a warzone, rather than a multifunctional smartwatch which needs to find a USB outlet every day.

Still, the article is a bit OTT when it tries to hammer the point home with comments like "When initiating a time fuse on a demolition charge, I want to know my watch won’t die while I wait for the explosion."

Of course you want something more dependable than an 'iPhone for the wrist', but I'm not convinced you need a $10k watch filled with cogs and rotors that's a few seconds off each day, when you could just get a Gshock for a couple of hundred dollars and know that the accuracy is tightened up to a few seconds a year instead of a few seconds a day and the battery will last a couple of years.

The last thing I need is something else to charge.

[Pauln]

Thanks. Good read.

[Phrank]

Great article, only part that raised my eyebrow was, " It still passes muster as a timepiece for a t shirt and daisy dukes, or as a handsome dress watch."

Daisy Dukes? Huh?

[Kyle3130]

Originally Posted by Phrank

Great article, only part that raised my eyebrow was, " It still passes muster as a timepiece for a t shirt and daisy dukes, or as a handsome dress watch."

Daisy Dukes? Huh?

Men and women both look good wearing it. I believe that was a nod to both sexes.

[Phrank]

Originally Posted by Kyle3130

Men and women both look good wearing it. I believe that was a nod to both sexes.

Doh! Of course, and you are correct, thanks...

[Golden Ellipse]

Originally Posted by Kyle3130

Men and women both look good wearing it. I believe that was a nod to both sexes.

I disagree, men do not look good wearing Daisy Dukes :)

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Golden Ellipse

I disagree, men do not look good wearing Daisy Dukes :)

Says you.

[Seibei]

Too bad you can not un-see what you have seen!

[Doc Savage]

Originally Posted by Phrank

Great article, only part that raised my eyebrow was, " It still passes muster as a timepiece for a t shirt and daisy dukes, or as a handsome dress watch."

Daisy Dukes? Huh?

Dress watch?

[ashbaug2]

Originally Posted by Phrank

Great article, only part that raised my eyebrow was, " It still passes muster as a timepiece for a t shirt and daisy dukes, or as a handsome dress watch."

Daisy Dukes? Huh?

It is best to remember the audience of this article, which is military servicemen (and maybe some women). The particular site, SOFLETE, pokes particular fun at dudes in Daisy Dukes, as it's a running joke in the military about wearing short shorts; the short running shorts are often called "Ranger Panties" in the Army due to the US Army Ranger's unofficial workout short. We have an odd sense of humor sometimes, but it usually serves us well.

I wore my Suunto Vector or my SKX009 every day during deployments, and the SKX was significantly better, IMO. Aside from the extreme heat of an Iraq summer that messed with the Suunto's screen (it was an early model, I think they are a lot better now), the SKX actually kept better time and was more rugged. The plastic crystal on the Suunto scratched very easily; the Suunto had a bunch of nice features, like barometer and compass, but it wasn't nearly as rugged as a G-Shock or my SKX.

I've got a GMT Master II now, and if I deploy again, it'll be on my wrist every day; forget the Suunto and SKX. But I will also be withering away on a staff element at this point in my career, so it is admittedly lower probability of damaging anything.

[Kyle3130]

Originally Posted by ashbaug2

It is best to remember the audience of this article, which is military servicemen (and maybe some women). The particular site, SOFLETE, pokes particular fun at dudes in Daisy Dukes, as it's a running joke in the military about wearing short shorts; the short running shorts are often called "Ranger Panties" in the Army due to the US Army Ranger's unofficial workout short. We have an odd sense of humor sometimes, but it usually serves us well.

I wore my Suunto Vector or my SKX009 every day during deployments, and the SKX was significantly better, IMO. Aside from the extreme heat of an Iraq summer that messed with the Suunto's screen (it was an early model, I think they are a lot better now), the SKX actually kept better time and was more rugged. The plastic crystal on the Suunto scratched very easily; the Suunto had a bunch of nice features, like barometer and compass, but it wasn't nearly as rugged as a G-Shock or my SKX.

I've got a GMT Master II now, and if I deploy again, it'll be on my wrist every day; forget the Suunto and SKX. But I will also be withering away on a staff element at this point in my career, so it is admittedly lower probability of damaging anything.

Thanks Jon! I was torn between a 16710 and my 14060M when I was purchasing. The purity and extra water resistance of the Sub is what made it stand out to me.

[shaunylw]

Originally Posted by Phrank

Great article, only part that raised my eyebrow was, " It still passes muster as a timepiece for a t shirt and daisy dukes, or as a handsome dress watch."

Daisy Dukes? Huh?

Saw that lol. That part got me as well. I do not, under any circumstances, want to wear a sub while wearing daisy dukes.


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[carlhaluss]

Thanks for sharing your experience. Man, I wish I could get one for a month's salary. At least, the last place I worked before retiring. That would have cost me more than 3 months' salary!
Anyway, glad the watch is such a success for you.
Cheers,
Carl

[AK797]

Originally Posted by carlhaluss

Thanks for sharing your experience. Man, I wish I could get one for a month's salary. At least, the last place I worked before retiring. That would have cost me more than 3 months' salary!
Anyway, glad the watch is such a success for you.
Cheers,
Carl

3 months salary is fine, the same is supposed to be for an engagement ring, and watches are far more important.

[Geaux Tigers]

Great article! Thank you for you service!

[exador]

I had to laugh at this:

Certain modified Seiko watch movements that feature a hacking (stop when you pull the stem) movement are nice, but Miyota and ETA movements are the gold standard in autos

Although I guess from a repair point of view, any watchmaker worldwide should be able to fix an ETA

[JacksonStone]

Great article, but I wonder if the author underestimates the toughness of some G-Shocks. I wouldn't know, since I don't work in the situations he describes, but this video puts several models to the test in some extreme conditions.

[Kyle3130]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Great article, but I wonder if the author underestimates the toughness of some G-Shocks. I wouldn't know, since I don't work in the situations he describes, but this video puts several models to the test in some extreme conditions.

I appreciate your perspective and you are probably right about the underestimation of G-Shocks but I believe what the author is trying to convey is the reliability of a movement vs a battery.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Kyle3130

I appreciate your perspective and you are probably right about the underestimation of G-Shocks but I believe what the author is trying to convey is the reliability of a movement vs a battery.

Originally Posted by MJK737

P.S. Years ago I had a G-Shock’s battery die on me in the field. No bueno, I picked up the GMT shortly thereafter...

Well yeah, if the battery dies, it's game over. Battery changes on a G-Shock are pretty quick and easy, though, so if one were really concerned about that happening, a prefatory change prior to deployment would likely prevent the problem. Most watch batteries have a minimum life of two years, and one of my G-Shocks uses a cell with a projected life of up to five years.

[Jacobson]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Great article, but I wonder if the author underestimates the toughness of some G-Shocks. I wouldn't know, since I don't work in the situations he describes, but this video puts several models to the test in some extreme conditions.

Well at least now I know my G-Shock will be okay if I were ever to be struck by lightning

[Steerpike999]

What a great article, thank you for linking to it

[HNIC]

Great read, thanks for sharing.


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[MJK737]

Right on! My GMT Master 16750 has been around the world twice including a one year deployment to AFG “touring” the countryside. It never skipped a beat. I picked up a Sub a few years ago and rotate the two. I love them both.

P.S. Years ago I had a G-Shock’s battery die on me in the field. No bueno, I picked up the GMT shortly thereafter...

[Kyle3130]

Originally Posted by MJK737

Right on! My GMT Master 16750 has been around the world twice including a one year deployment to AFG “touring” the countryside. It never skipped a beat. I picked up a Sub a few years ago and rotate the two. I love them both.

P.S. Years ago I had a G-Shock’s battery die on me in the field. No bueno, I picked up the GMT shortly thereafter...

Great stuff! Thanks for sharing!