Power Winders

[slate-dial]

What are your opinions on using power winders. Thanks

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by slate-dial

What are your opinions on using power winders. Thanks

Why do you believe you need one?

[Cryten]

After 50 posts the results will condense down to:

1) They are unnecessary unless you have a perpetual calendar or something difficult to set, otherwise they are just a convenience. Setting a watch isn't that hard.

2) They increase wear on the movement because it's running all the time. Prepare to pony up for servicing if you use one.

3) And Paddi's standard "you have two winders already, they're called wrists, use them"

I just saved you 20 mins of reading.

[droptopman]

Originally Posted by Cryten

After 50 posts the results will condense down to:

1) They are unnecessary unless you have a perpetual calendar or something difficult to set, otherwise they are just a convenience. Setting a watch isn't that hard.

2) They increase wear on the movement because it's running all the time. Prepare to pony up for servicing if you use one.

3) And Paddi's standard "you have two winders already, they're called wrists, use them"

I just saved you 20 mins of reading.

This about sums it up, except one other frequent reply. I have used them for 30 years and never had an issue. No increased service frequency or anything else and I like the convenience.

[jlovda]

Originally Posted by Cryten

After 50 posts the results will condense down to:

1) They are unnecessary unless you have a perpetual calendar or something difficult to set, otherwise they are just a convenience. Setting a watch isn't that hard.

2) They increase wear on the movement because it's running all the time. Prepare to pony up for servicing if you use one.

3) And Paddi's standard "you have two winders already, they're called wrists, use them"

I just saved you 20 mins of reading.

I have a 1675 GMT Pepsi. If I don't wear the watch for a week, I end up leaving it in the drawer until the the correct date pops up next next month. One time 30 yrs ago I went through the hassle of rolling the dial about 40-50 times to get the date lined up. Never again. I don't own a winder but thought of getting one because of this. However I bought an Exp II six weeks ago so it is now my daily watch.

[Sal_UKSheffield]

Originally Posted by Cryten

After 50 posts the results will condense down to:

1) They are unnecessary unless you have a perpetual calendar or something difficult to set, otherwise they are just a convenience. Setting a watch isn't that hard.

2) They increase wear on the movement because it's running all the time. Prepare to pony up for servicing if you use one.

3) And Paddi's standard "you have two winders already, they're called wrists, use them"

I just saved you 20 mins of reading.

Hahahah i am sure i have read no. 3 atleast in a dozen posts lol

[grymg]

Originally Posted by Cryten

After 50 posts the results will condense down to:

1) They are unnecessary unless you have a perpetual calendar or something difficult to set, otherwise they are just a convenience. Setting a watch isn't that hard.

2) They increase wear on the movement because it's running all the time. Prepare to pony up for servicing if you use one.

3) And Paddi's standard "you have two winders already, they're called wrists, use them"

I just saved you 20 mins of reading.

+1

I actually enjoy setting my watches, so don't mind if it dies. If I'm in a "grab and go" situation, I'll strap the watch on as I leave and set it next time I get a chance.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Cryten

After 50 posts the results will condense down to:

1) They are unnecessary unless you have a perpetual calendar or something difficult to set, otherwise they are just a convenience. Setting a watch isn't that hard.

2) They increase wear on the movement because it's running all the time. Prepare to pony up for servicing if you use one.

3) And Paddi's standard "you have two winders already, they're called wrists, use them"

I just saved you 20 mins of reading.

its a tradeoff vs wear and tear on the winding stem. If its a watch worn 2-3 times a week with a short PR you could be unscrewing the crown pulling it out and pushing it back in 130-ish times a year. Thats a lot of stress on a very fragile part. Ive never broken a movement, i have broken a winding stem. Just saying

For a watch you wear once a month, i would not use a winder

Either Rolex is a robust movement or its not, and a winder is no different than wearing it every day and people love to point out that they wait 10 or 15 years to service it. However wear and tear is always an issue with winder discussions it seems but not for daily wear robustness discussions.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

its a tradeoff vs wear and tear on the winding stem. If its a watch worn 2-3 times a week with a short PR you could be unscrewing the crown pulling it out and pushing it back in 130-ish times a year. Thats a lot of stress on a very fragile part. Ive never broken a movement, i have broken a winding stem. Just saying

For a watch you wear once a month, i would not use a winder

Either Rolex is a robust movement or its not, and a winder is no different than wearing it every day and people love to point out that they wait 10 or 15 years to service it. However wear and tear is always an issue with winder discussions it seems but not for daily wear robustness discussions.

And what about the thousands of manual wind mechanical watches with screw down crowns they got wound up daily for decades without any problems.A automatic watch is just a manual wind watch with a auto wind mechanium fitted.And today most crown related problems are simply down to the winding crown not being used enough.Trouble with these machine is they in general just go back and throe is the same repetitive position 24/7 which will increase wear and not the same wear as when on the most perfect winder and most have two called wrists.,

[Dr. Robert]

Originally Posted by padi56

And what about the thousands of manual wind mechanical watches with screw down crowns they got wound up daily for decades without any problems.A automatic watch is just a manual wind watch with a auto wind mechanium fitted.And today most crown related problems are simply down to the winding crown not being used enough.Trouble with these machine is they in general just go back and throe is the same repetitive position 24/7 which will increase wear and not the same wear as when on the most perfect winder and most have two called wrists.,

Padi IS THE MAN! A well informed retro grouch curmudgeon if I ever saw one, join us.....just say bah humbug & you are in!

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

Either Rolex is a robust movement or its not, and a winder is no different than wearing it every day and people love to point out that they wait 10 or 15 years to service it. However wear and tear is always an issue with winder discussions it seems but not for daily wear robustness discussions.

This is my position as well.

[slate-dial]

First, thanks for all the input.
Here are a couple of things I was told.
My New but old Rolex Datejust has been sitting in my safe sense 2005. I gave it 25 winds seems to work perfectly. I gave a few hours and the time is right on. But a Rolex dealer said I needed to get it serviced. He said the oil drys up no matter if used or not. He also said for me not to use it until I get it serviced, it would be like running your car with no oil. Then I would have huge cost to replace worn gears, etc.
So I was wondering if a power winder would wear the watch out faster. It is very easy and quick to set the date and time.

[beshannon]

Originally Posted by slate-dial

First, thanks for all the input.
Here are a couple of things I was told.
My New but old Rolex Datejust has been sitting in my safe sense 2005. I gave it 25 winds seems to work perfectly. I gave a few hours and the time is right on. But a Rolex dealer said I needed to get it serviced. He said the oil drys up no matter if used or not. He also said for me not to use it until I get it serviced, it would be like running your car with no oil. Then I would have huge cost to replace worn gears, etc.
So I was wondering if a power winder would wear the watch out faster. It is very easy and quick to set the date and time.

Running or not it likely needs a service.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by slate-dial

First, thanks for all the input.
Here are a couple of things I was told.
My New but old Rolex Datejust has been sitting in my safe sense 2005. I gave it 25 winds seems to work perfectly. I gave a few hours and the time is right on. But a Rolex dealer said I needed to get it serviced. He said the oil drys up no matter if used or not. He also said for me not to use it until I get it serviced, it would be like running your car with no oil. Then I would have huge cost to replace worn gears, etc.
So I was wondering if a power winder would wear the watch out faster. It is very easy and quick to set the date and time.

X2. Service your watch. Spend the 500-700 and it will have all new synthetic oils, new seals and will be good to go for the next 8-10 years.

[vistec]

https://www.fratellowatches.com/you-...tches-running/


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[XtraCrispy]

I have a 4 slot wander which I do use.

I switch up my wear cycle regularly so I guess I'm just too lazy to be setting the time and date every time I want to make a switch.

However, I think a winder is a convenience and not a necessity.

[Harry-57]

I don't think there is a right answer to this. When I had just a Carrera 16, which I would occasionally have to reset after a long week end off the wrist, I left it in my desk drawer after a two month illness and convalescence. When I got it out and wound it, it made a terrible noise for several minutes and ran slowly - as if the innards had gummed up. After a day of normal wear it ran smooth, silently and kept perfect time again. After that I bought a winder.

My modest collection is now kept wound and ready to wear, barring the odd date adjustment. The Tag should have been serviced five years ago but it still keeps perfect time and all its functions work properly.

I'm not saying a Rolex would behave so badly if left idle for a month or two. But personal experience informs perception, and personal perception is fact. I also accidentally killed a Seiko by failing to keep it wound. That was a Kinetic, which admittedly is a bit more tricky to keep running if you don't wear it daily.

[pickettt]

3186 movement’s jump hand feels like it should be in a $20 watch and is going to break at any moment, so I don’t like to set it any more than necessary. Hence, a winder for me.

[R!$]

its a fun way to display your collection

[slate-dial]

vistec,
Thanks so much for that informational URL.
Quote, And then as well, it’s much better to have an undamaged watch which just needs relubricating at a service, than a watch with a lot of wear and tear in the movement because it ran all the time and became badly lubricated in the end.“

Anyone want to buy a winder?

[Boaters]

I like to grab and go a lot of the time so a winder is nice for me. I have a couple of Orbita's that run five years I believe on batteries. It works for me I know some like and some don't do what works for you

[jps3b]

My SkyDweller is on a winder because it’s hard to set. The other three slots get rotated with whatever I’m wearing that particular month. My 20 year old omega Seamaster 300 was just serviced for the first time recently. No issues besides the normal servicing and it’s spent most of its life on a winder. I guess it depends how robust the brand is

[padi56]

Wonder how they managed before these so called winding machine came on the market,perhaps thats why today there are so many vintage Rolex alive and ticking today without the need for any machine.

[DLRIDES]

A watch is a miniature engine.

Do you leave you cars running while not driving ?

[TheVTCGuy]

I use one.

[123Blueface]

Don’t need them but have quite a few and use them.
At least for now, since I alternate my watches daily based on preference, I enjoy being able to put it on my wrist and run.
Perhaps in six weeks when retired and have plenty of time on my hands, winding watches will be something I look forward to for killing time.