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Old 20 November 2018, 12:55 PM   #1
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A NEW SubC 2019?

A NEW SubC 2019?

This has been talked about when it comes to predictions for 2019.

Now it's been said also that the low supply of subs could be due to a new model about to be released.
What would this do to the value of the 116610?

It angers people when I ask about future value but I'm about to buy a Near New SubC from a seller at MSRP and just thought I'd think about the possible future.
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Old 20 November 2018, 01:00 PM   #2
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No one knows when but it will happen and the new movement is certainly fantastic.
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Old 20 November 2018, 01:06 PM   #3
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Old 20 November 2018, 01:11 PM   #4
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I do wonder/worry about the value but it's hard to imagine the price of a Rolex especially a sub going down.
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Old 20 November 2018, 08:57 PM   #5
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I do wonder/worry about the value but it's hard to imagine the price of a Rolex especially a sub going down.
It won’t lose value.

Sooner or later, an updated Submariner will be released. Could be this year, or next, or perhaps five years from now. Do you really want to wait if it is a few more years? And, when a new Submariner model is released, what’s to say you will like the changes made? By way of example, many members prefer the older case (5 digit) vs. maxi case (6 digit).

Point being, if you like the currently released Submariner and can source one at a reasonable price, suggest you get it.
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Old 20 November 2018, 01:12 PM   #6
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Ain't gonna happen. If it does it should be in pm and preferably platinum first.
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Old 20 November 2018, 01:12 PM   #7
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The one prediction I can make with absolute certainty is that if/when they do announce a new sub,

1) The waiting list will be 5+ years
2) Your friends (aka dealers) will gobble up 95% of the supply and drive secondary market prices to new all-time highs


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Old 21 November 2018, 04:53 AM   #8
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The one prediction I can make with absolute certainty is that if/when they do announce a new sub,

1) The waiting list will be 5+ years
2) Your friends (aka dealers) will gobble up 95% of the supply and drive secondary market prices to new all-time highs


Enjoy!
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Old 20 November 2018, 01:14 PM   #9
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Same old story ... LOL
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Old 20 November 2018, 01:15 PM   #10
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Old 20 November 2018, 01:28 PM   #11
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Ain't gonna happen. If it does it should be in pm and preferably platinum first.
From what I've read on this forum this seems to be the way they do it like that white gold pepsi

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Old 20 November 2018, 01:31 PM   #12
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Your old reference will probably double in value when no one can get the new reference that sells on the secondary for 20k. Or the bubble will burst.

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Old 20 November 2018, 01:49 PM   #13
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Your old reference will probably double in value when no one can get the new reference that sells on the secondary for 20k. Or the bubble will burst.

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People said the B word about the pre c GMT's but it never stopped. It's the opposite they are still slowly climbing.
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Old 20 November 2018, 01:53 PM   #14
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A NEW SubC 2019?

If it’s both a design and movement change, your (future) 116610 will go up in value.

If it’s a movement change only, I don’t see your 116610 going up in value. Unless the new 216610 (let’s call it that) is drastically more expensive or more scarce, I don’t see people rushing to get the exact same Sub with a worse movement (yours).

It is clear that Rolex is in a transition period, meaning, some watches are equipped with the new movement, some aren’t. If you can wait, I would. Wait at least four months — you’ll be better informed then (Basel 2019).


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Old 20 November 2018, 02:08 PM   #15
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If it’s both a design and movement change, your (future) 116610 will go up in value.

If it’s a movement change only, I don’t see your 116610 going up in value. Unless the new 216610 (let’s call it that) is drastically more expensive or more scarce, I don’t see people rushing to get the exact same Sub with a worse movement (yours).

It is clear that Rolex is in a transition period, meaning, some watches are equipped with the new movement, some aren’t. If you can wait, I would. Wait at least four months — you’ll be better informed then (Basel 2019).
You make a great point. Would you see Rolex making a movement change on a sub. Why do it though? The sub is selling so very strong. It's hard to imagine.

And wait you say? To make a possible huge mistake?
No way. It's the age of the 'can't sit still' Internet generation. I'm going to most likely pick up the sub. If I don't I might not see another like it.
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Old 20 November 2018, 02:12 PM   #16
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If it’s both a design and movement change, your (future) 116610 will go up in value.

If it’s a movement change only, I don’t see your 116610 going up in value. Unless the new 216610 (let’s call it that) is drastically more expensive or more scarce, I don’t see people rushing to get the exact same Sub with a worse movement (yours).
Is it really possible to be anymore scarce than it currently is?
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Old 20 November 2018, 02:20 PM   #17
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Stupid question but what happens to all the people on a wait list for a 116610 or even have a deposit on a 116610 if a new sub comes out.
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Old 20 November 2018, 02:23 PM   #18
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The movement change will go first to the Sub PM models before it trickles down to the SS.

I wouldn’t worry about the price. For now, buy the current model and enjoy the timepiece.


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Old 20 November 2018, 02:35 PM   #19
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Rolex SS sports models are nowhere to be found at AD’s and we are here talking about future iterations of a watch that’s basically nonexistent. Man... we are brainwashed :Banghead:


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Old 20 November 2018, 07:05 PM   #20
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Old 20 November 2018, 07:13 PM   #21
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Honestly when everyone buys a Rolex is the very first thing people think about is resell value? This should be a hobby for everyone and with hobbies financial numbers are usually meaningless.

If it is you might want to ask yourself

1) Are you really buying the watch for yourself to enjoy
2) Do you really like the watch your considering to buy
3) Can you actually afford this watch

With so many people asking the same question over and over and over I truly am curious whether people could answer yes to all 3 of the above.
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Old 20 November 2018, 07:48 PM   #22
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It won't make a difference to me as I won't be buying.
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Old 20 November 2018, 08:53 PM   #23
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If they fix the inexplicable fat lugs the perceived 'correction' many would welcome will precipitate a maxicase bloodbath, where there is a mass sell off and no one will want the one with the fat lugs, the 'on-the-fencers' who like the bracelet will have all the assurance they need that the rest of the watch is in fact not very appealing and it will never be spoken of again. Like the Day Date II.
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Old 20 November 2018, 11:09 PM   #24
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If they fix the inexplicable fat lugs the perceived 'correction' many would welcome will precipitate a maxicase bloodbath, where there is a mass sell off and no one will want the one with the fat lugs, the 'on-the-fencers' who like the bracelet will have all the assurance they need that the rest of the watch is in fact not very appealing and it will never be spoken of again. Like the Day Date II.
Daydate II is the best daydate by far mate. Just need a real mans wrist to pull it off
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Old 21 November 2018, 01:16 AM   #25
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If they fix the inexplicable fat lugs the perceived 'correction' many would welcome will precipitate a maxicase bloodbath, where there is a mass sell off and no one will want the one with the fat lugs, the 'on-the-fencers' who like the bracelet will have all the assurance they need that the rest of the watch is in fact not very appealing and it will never be spoken of again. Like the Day Date II.
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Daydate II is the best daydate by far mate. Just need a real mans wrist to pull it off
Not sure what you guys are talking about please enlighten me.

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In my opinion, if you like something get it. These are mass produced luxury goods. Watches, just like cars there will always be a new model with all the bells and whistles come out unless the model is completely discontinued (very unlikely in a Sub) or the brand dies out (even more unlikely). Honestly an extended power reserve doesn’t do much for me. If you’re always wearing it then there should be no need for a 70 hr reserve, and if you rotate often with 4+ watch collection a 70 hr reserve will be flat anyway by the time I get back to the watch. My DaytonaC is always in need of a full wind when I get back to wearing it.
True. I'd like a 70hr power reserve.
I also agree with everyone else that the new model would be in PM.
I would like to point out that short supply though... Just Rolex is selling far too many or they are changing/making a new sub.
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Old 21 November 2018, 03:15 AM   #26
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If they fix the inexplicable fat lugs the perceived 'correction' many would welcome will precipitate a maxicase bloodbath, where there is a mass sell off and no one will want the one with the fat lugs, the 'on-the-fencers' who like the bracelet will have all the assurance they need that the rest of the watch is in fact not very appealing and it will never be spoken of again. Like the Day Date II.
I’ve come to prefer the fatter lugs. I doubt I’m alone.
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I’ve come to prefer the fatter lugs. I doubt I’m alone.
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