GMT Pepsi or Daytona for a price....

[teabags001]

So my AD is offering me a Daytona or a GMT Pepsi if I buy a DD40 diamond dial. I think it’s unethical for them to sell me a watch only if I buy a very expensive watch in return. I have thought of a way to get what I want but it would burn the bridge between my AD and I. Just wondering if anyone else thinks what I’m thinking is wrong. I am thinking of getting both. But not wearing and returning the DD40, and keep the Pepsi or Daytona. Just not sure if I would get my warranty card and like I said would torch the bridge between the AD and I. But any thoughts?


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[T.Mas]

Laugh and walk away....

[Gotgolf52]

Isn’t there a no return policy on watches if you size it? I would be surprise if they don’t make you size the bracelet and sign on the warranty card to prevent you from returning the item. I don’t agree with forcing you buying high end watch to be able to get high demand watches. But if you don’t want the DD, I would just pass and wait for the call.

[teabags001]

Originally Posted by Gotgolf52

Isn’t there a no return policy on watches if you size it? I would be surprise if they don’t make you size the bracelet and sign on the warranty card to prevent you from returning the item. I don’t agree with forcing you buying high end watch to be able to get high demand watches. But if you don’t want the DD, I would just pass and wait for the call.

The AD I use has a 3 day return policy as long as the watch is unworn. The watch will not need to be sized. They sold me other watches and left stickers on as long as it’s not a SS model. I have purchased 4 Rolex from them in the past and other jewelry. So I’m considered a decent client. Imo. But I truly believe all there good SS models are in the safe.


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[Rolex Essex]

Originally Posted by teabags001

I have purchased 4 Rolex from them in the past and other jewelry. So I’m considered a decent client. Imo. But I truly believe all there good SS models are in the safe.


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obviously not decent enough for them as they expect you to buy a 40k watch before buying a 9k watch.

[Diamondcity]

Pepsi is nice

[dddl]

I'd look at them straight in the eye and say; "Are you kidding me"... and walk away. It is unethical and wouldn't want to do business with them.

[Roger Lococco]

I think your action would be somewhat unethical.


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[R G]

Originally Posted by Roger Lococco

I think your action would be somewhat unethical.


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A little like the AD then!

OP, go for it and burn the bridge.

The AD clearly doesn’t value the relationship enough to sell you a watch, conventionally.

[Roger Lococco]

Originally Posted by R G

A little like the AD then!

OP, go for it and burn the bridge.

The AD clearly doesn’t value the relationship enough to sell you a watch, conventionally.

In my view, what the AD is doing is not unethical. No different than a grey market or private seller trying to maximize their profit.


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[R G]

Originally Posted by Roger Lococco

In my view, what the AD is doing is not unethical. No different than a grey market or private seller trying to maximize their profit.


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Yes I understand that, I maximise profit for a living, daily.

On a ‘consumer’ scale, though, I just think the OP should feel no way about dancing to the same song the AD is playing.

‘Authorised’ dealer - they have this name awarded to them for a reason. The definition of this means that they shouldn’t act like grey dealers.

‘Grey’ dealer - they are called grey for a reason, and they trade as they do as it enables a buyer to purchase a watch via a ‘different’ route. A route with no rules.

[teabags001]

Originally Posted by Roger Lococco

I think your action would be somewhat unethical.


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I agree too. That’s why I haven’t done it. Lol. But in my mind it seems ok.


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[Ian Macdermott]

Originally Posted by Roger Lococco

I think your action would be somewhat unethical.


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And of course the ADs being the very model of integrity.


I would tell him to boil his head in hot urine.

[teabags001]

Originally Posted by Roger Lococco

I think your action would be somewhat unethical.


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By then strong arming me and by me using their 3 day return policy? I would have done as they asked. Buy both watches. And done what any sane person with a lick of common sense would have done. Return an item I don’t want for a refund. I think even if I did it I wouldn’t lose any sleep. I wouldn’t have broken any laws to get it and maybe the AD would learn a lesson not to mess
With us consumers.


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[corrosivescale]

If a retailer offers a return policy...they should not be surprised if you use it. I don't see this as a matter of ethics. It's just capitalism. You just need to balance your desire for a Pepsi with the likely outcome of being black-balled from future purchases.

[toneafficianado]

If you really want the Pepsi then buy them both and put the DD on sale as soon as you can. Even if you sell it at a loss it will probably not equal the amount extra you would have paid by getting the Pepsi on the grey market, plus you will keep in good standing with the AD.
Of course you might end up liking / keeping the DD too!

[Macnavara]

Originally Posted by teabags001

So my AD is offering me a Daytona or a GMT Pepsi if I buy a DD40 diamond dial. I think it’s unethical for them to sell me a watch only if I buy a very expensive watch in return. I have thought of a way to get what I want but it would burn the bridge between my AD and I. Just wondering if anyone else thinks what I’m thinking is wrong. I am thinking of getting both. But not wearing and returning the DD40, and keep the Pepsi or Daytona. Just not sure if I would get my warranty card and like I said would torch the bridge between the AD and I. But any thoughts?


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I don‘t think this is the way to go but you could try bundle a hotter pm piece and sell it with out too much loss if any...ie ousterflex white daytona
...that way youve lined theor pockets and not burnt bridges

[teabags001]

Originally Posted by Macnavara

I don‘t think this is the way to go but you could try bundle a hotter pm piece and sell it with out too much loss if any...ie ousterflex white daytona

...that way youve lined theor pockets and not burnt bridges

This seems reasonable but they are pushing the DD 40 diamond dial on me really hard. I don’t think they even have the watch you stated above.


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[GeraldGentaFan]

I guess you could get away with it unless your AD also reads TRF!

[collarcity]

Ridiculous.

[brucethemanlee]

Seems unethical
But what they are doing is sketchy too. That said they told you what the rules are and you accept them so you should abide by them. Of course if the return policy is 3 days then they should honor it. But that means you will have burnt that bridge with them for anymore "hot" watches and depending on who you are dealing with it may cost people their jobs (I'm guessing here)
As long as you can live with it then go ahead (but it is a &*%€ move in your part, if done). I'm always of the opinion what goes around comes around ;) karma has a way with things




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[Jumpingjalapeno]

He's not on the list for hot watches currently. He will only be if he keeps buying less desirable pieces off them. That's some way to treat a loyal customer.

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

Seems unethical
But what they are doing is sketchy too. That said they told you what the rules are and you accept them so you should abide by them. Of course if the return policy is 3 days then they should honor it. But that means you will have burnt that bridge with them for anymore "hot" watches and depending on who you are dealing with it may cost people their jobs (I'm guessing here)
As long as you can live with it then go ahead (but it is a &*%€ move in your part, if done). I'm always of the opinion what goes around comes around ;) karma has a way with things




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[teabags001]

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

Seems unethical
But what they are doing is sketchy too. That said they told you what the rules are and you accept them so you should abide by them. Of course if the return policy is 3 days then they should honor it. But that means you will have burnt that bridge with them for anymore "hot" watches and depending on who you are dealing with it may cost people their jobs (I'm guessing here)
As long as you can live with it then go ahead (but it is a &*%€ move in your part, if done). I'm always of the opinion what goes around comes around ;) karma has a way with things




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I agree with you. As a business owner and father that’s the only reason I haven’t. I just want to do it to prove a point. But I don’t even know if my point will be proven. That if the ADs want to play games we as buyers can play too. But I have used this jeweler for 10 years. So I haven’t done it.


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[Jumpingjalapeno]

It amazes me the hoops Rolex ADs make people jump through. I wonder if it's a private game amongst them, see who can get the most out of a client for a chance to buy a SS sports Rolex. It's a game I can't be bothered playing and therefore I wouldn't consider getting a Rolex outside of an OP36.

What they are asking you is unethical. What you are planning might be considered unsavoury but if the AD accepts returns then I'm not sure what ethics you are contravening. Many many people buy stuff with reasonable knowledge that item will get returned.

Question is, is the watch you want worth getting black listed for? If so the decision is yours

Your AD should be ashamed tho.


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[Jonnyj]

Very ridiculous!!

[Jacobson]

Buy all 3, sell the PM & one of the Hot SS.

[jlovda]

I don't know what the rules are regarding stating dealer names but I wish people who post a comment like this would say right up front "my AD, Aardvark Jewelers in Acme, PA would only sell me a Pepsi if ...." I think other members reading these comments would like to know what dealers are trying to pull tricks on customers.

[teabags001]

Originally Posted by Jacobson

Buy all 3, sell the PM & one of the Hot SS.

They will only sell me one hot SS model. I have no interest in the DD 40. I just think it’s crap what they are doing and was thinking of giving them a dose of there own medicine.


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[g_luck]

Originally Posted by teabags001

So my AD is offering me a Daytona or a GMT Pepsi if I buy a DD40 diamond dial. I think it’s unethical for them to sell me a watch only if I buy a very expensive watch in return. I have thought of a way to get what I want but it would burn the bridge between my AD and I. Just wondering if anyone else thinks what I’m thinking is wrong. I am thinking of getting both. But not wearing and returning the DD40, and keep the Pepsi or Daytona. Just not sure if I would get my warranty card and like I said would torch the bridge between the AD and I. But any thoughts?


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They have to give you the warranty card and it sounds to me like it's your AD that is burning bridges!

[~JJ]

Won’t they want the packaged returned, not just the DD... both go out, both must be returned for a full refund?