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Old 20 January 2009, 09:48 AM   #1
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Manual winding

I bought a new Rolex about a month ago. It occasionally does not remain wound overnight when I leave it idle for between 6 and 10 hours. This has happened about 4 times in 30 days or so. The jeweler tells me this is normal and I need to manually wind it every 36 hours or so. Can anyone tell me if this is true? I had assumed the perpetual movement would not need winding if I wear the watch every day. Thanks for your help.
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Old 20 January 2009, 09:52 AM   #2
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That advice is definitely not true (assuming that you are otherwise wearing your watch during the day).
Having worn many Rolex watches, I have found the automatic winding system to be extremely efficient. Never has my watch stopped overnight after having been worn during the day, and that includes days where I may just spend at home on the computer.

So definitely insist on it being rectified by Rolex, you have a 2 year warranty.

What model do you have, by the way, and welcome.

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Old 20 January 2009, 10:01 AM   #3
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Not true at all like steve said above....That dealer should be slapped with the smart stick. You should fully wind your rolex 40 complete turns when it is at the dead stop, and then it will have a power reserve of a couple days at the least. If you wear it everyday or every other day it still shouldn't stop on you. Your watch needs immediate attention and I advise finding a dealer with some sense. By the way...WELCOME to TRF!!
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Old 20 January 2009, 10:02 AM   #4
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That advice is definitely not true (assuming that you are otherwise wearing your watch during the day).
Having worn many Rolex watches, I have found the automatic winding system to be extremely efficient. Never has my watch stopped overnight after having been worn during the day, and that includes days where I may just spend at home on the computer.

So definitely insist on it being rectified by Rolex, you have a 2 year warranty.

What model do you have, by the way, and welcome.

i'll second that - i've had multiple days where i've been a total slug - and my rolex has never stopped.
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Old 20 January 2009, 10:11 AM   #5
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I alternate between two Rolexes every other day, and neither one stops at all. Get that watch fixed.
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Old 20 January 2009, 10:29 AM   #6
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Thanks to all for the advice and the welcome. I will contact the dealer again tomorrow. They are a big jewelry store in Kansas City so I would have thought they are reputable. This is dumb but I'm not exactly sure what model I have. It is the basic Oyster Perpetual Datejust, all stainless steel except it has the fluted bezel. It has the newer band where you can't see the clasp which I thought was a nice feature.
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Old 20 January 2009, 10:37 AM   #7
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I don't think that I would run off the the dealer just yet...

Have you fully wound the watch (about 40 turns) ?

Are you active, or mostly idle...?

These two things make a big difference. If you did not fully wind the watch to start with, then it only has whatever wind you give it during a few hours of wear.....and if you are not active, that might not be enough..

It takes about 900 wrist rotations to fully top-off your Rolex... If you spend the day at a computer or other stationary vocation, that is not enough. Even a fully wound watch will slowly lose it's power reserve if it is not actively wound by your movements......eventually that slow "unwind" will get to the point where the only wind it has is what your wrist gave it each day.

Try this...
Wind it fully 40 complete turns of the crown in the wind position... Now set the watch down and walk away...just walk away....... Don't touch it for 40 hours, it should still be ticking at that point.. If it isn't note the time it stopped, do the math and take that figure to your watchmaker.
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Old 20 January 2009, 11:12 AM   #8
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Well Larry, the winding sytem (manual wind) may well be functioning properly, however, it might be that the auto winding mechanism has an issue
By fully winding the watch manually and laying it down, sure that will test the mechanical aspect of the manual wind, but it doesn't really shed any light on the functionality of the auto winding mechanism
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Old 20 January 2009, 11:16 AM   #9
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I had the same problem with my new Sub-Date. I eventually sent it to Rolex. It now does much better even though it will sometimes stop after 4-6 days even if I wear it . I do not sleep with it on. I am afraid my "lifestyle" is not active enough. I would suggest sending it to them ASAP. I got mine back in 3 weeks.
My AD suggested that I should enjoy the watch by winding it every 3 or 4 days even if it may not need it. It does give me an excuse to handle to watch. I have got to where I look forward to my "wind the watch" days!
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Old 20 January 2009, 12:26 PM   #10
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get it checked ASAP. i have a zenith daytona that's only suppose to last 48 hours i haven't worn it for 72 hours and it is still running... then again it maybe a quartz!
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Old 21 January 2009, 12:55 AM   #11
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I have had my Rolex for just over a year and worn it on a daily basis. It has never run out of steam over night.
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Old 21 January 2009, 04:03 AM   #12
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I have had my Rolex for just over a year and worn it on a daily basis. It has never run out of steam over night.
X 2 All the Rolex's I've owned have never run down, whether I wear them at night or not. I'd like to think I have an active lifestyle but no more then anyone else I'd guess. If it can't hold a wind from the auto with "normal" daily wear I think something is definitely not right.
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Old 11 February 2009, 05:14 PM   #13
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Newbie here. Tried searching can't find.

Have a watch that I can't seem to get wound up enough (didn't use for a few weeks) and need to wind it, but forget how! It stops at night; I shake a few times or even for quite a while, vigorously, and it still stops (I think I'm way too sedentary!)

I have long since lost my instruction pamphlet that came with my Rolex Oyster Perpetual Datejust. Can anyone explain how to wind manually? When I unscrew the crown, there are three different positions; the one furthest out moves the hour/minute; the second one advances the date when moving counter-clockwise; there is some resistance when I move it clockwise. Furthest in, there is little resistance counter-clockwise, but some clockwise. Which of these is actually winding the watch?

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Old 11 February 2009, 05:17 PM   #14
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Newbie here. Tried searching can't find.

Have a watch that I can't seem to get wound up enough (didn't use for a few weeks) and need to wind it, but forget how! It stops at night; I shake a few times or even for quite a while, vigorously, and it still stops (I think I'm way too sedentary!)

I have long since lost my instruction pamphlet that came with my Rolex Oyster Perpetual Datejust. Can anyone explain how to wind manually? When I unscrew the crown, there are three different positions; the one furthest out moves the hour/minute; the second one advances the date when moving counter-clockwise; there is some resistance when I move it clockwise. Furthest in, there is little resistance counter-clockwise, but some clockwise. Which of these is actually winding the watch?

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The furthest one in, as you put it, i.e. just as you actually unscrew the crown - that is the position to wind the watch in a clockwise direction.

If your watch still stops in spite of at least 40 turns of the crown, you need to take it in to your Rolex watchmaker for a look-see.

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Old 11 February 2009, 09:16 PM   #15
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Listen to Tools,Lol-x and JJ, I have a GMT and a SUB ND. The GMT I have worn for a year and a half solid and have never had a problem. I added a SUB last week and now trade off every other day and neither one stops!!!
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