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Old 26 January 2019, 02:52 AM   #1
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Crown not lining up....is it on purpose?

We all know that most Rolex crowns do not line up when screwed down. My question is: do they do this on purpose because its become a hallmark of the brand? When did it start being the case that the majority did not line up?

Surely they could make every single crown line up if they so chose but prefer not to bother. Would you miss the uniqueness of the quirk if they were to stop doing it?
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Old 26 January 2019, 02:55 AM   #2
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Of all the watches I have, have had and have worn over the years - I have had ONE crown line up.


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Old 26 January 2019, 03:59 AM   #3
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Of all the watches I have, have had and have worn over the years - I have had ONE crown line up.


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Old 26 January 2019, 02:56 AM   #4
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Here comes the dump truck full of excuses.
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Old 26 January 2019, 06:17 AM   #5
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Here comes the dump truck full of excuses.
Followed closely by the freight train full of unrealistic ocd types. . .
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Old 21 December 2019, 12:50 AM   #6
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Here comes the dump truck full of excuses.
Show me where it is stated that a Rolex crown should line up with your opinion of proper alignment. Just one little piece of Rolex literature that supports your belief. Just one.
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Old 26 January 2019, 02:57 AM   #7
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Since the inception of the brand crowns have never lined up, except by chance, until the Skydweller.

And stop calling me Shirley.
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Old 26 January 2019, 06:15 AM   #8
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Since the inception of the brand crowns have never lined up, except by chance, until the Skydweller.

And stop calling me Shirley.
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Funny Dan . So why do the Sky Dwellers line up? I put a photo of my Sky Dweller last time this came up and to my surprise, my crown was “lined up”. Then someone posted that all the Sky Dweller’s crown “lined up”. I was crushed. For those 2 minutes, I actually thought that I was special .

Well, you know me, a post with out a pic is boring...




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Old 26 January 2019, 07:56 AM   #9
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Funny Dan . So why do the Sky Dwellers line up? I put a photo of my Sky Dweller last time this came up and to my surprise, my crown was “lined up”. Then someone posted that all the Sky Dweller’s crown “lined up”. I was crushed. For those 2 minutes, I actually thought that I was special .

Well, you know me, a post with out a pic is boring...




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Only the PM SkyD. Not the SS. Maybe it was an experiment for Rolex. No other Rolex reference does other than by luck of the draw. Not even the flagship Day-Date
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Old 26 January 2019, 02:58 AM   #10
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personally, i think they continue it now on purpose and consider it a quirk.
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Old 26 January 2019, 02:59 AM   #11
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Thanks guys! I was wondering this myself with my new watch.


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Old 26 January 2019, 03:14 AM   #12
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We all know that most Rolex crowns do not line up when screwed down. My question is: do they do this on purpose because its become a hallmark of the brand? When did it start being the case that the majority did not line up?

Surely they could make every single crown line up if they so chose but prefer not to bother. Would you miss the uniqueness of the quirk if they were to stop doing it?
Perhaps Rolex should get rid of the crown emblem then everyone's crown would line up somewhere.It's a winding crown for winding and setting the watch and it's not supposed to line up with anything
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Old 26 January 2019, 03:27 AM   #13
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The non-alignment is because of the threading of the crown stem into its locked position, which is typically fixed (i.e. no matter how much you wind it when unscrewed, it always locks in the same angle). So, if Rolex wanted, they could certainly make it aligned. But who really cares?!
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Old 26 January 2019, 03:37 AM   #14
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So, if Rolex wanted, they could certainly make it aligned. But who really cares?!
I am not sure they could.
There are three "screw" elements.
The screw thread in the case, the screw thread of the stem that screws into case, and the screw thread of the crown.

all three pieces are mated (screwed together) as tight as possible.

Not sure if you could engineer all 3 of those threads to always match and lock at exactly same position?
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Old 26 January 2019, 03:03 PM   #15
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I am not sure they could.
There are three "screw" elements.
The screw thread in the case, the screw thread of the stem that screws into case, and the screw thread of the crown.

all three pieces are mated (screwed together) as tight as possible.

Not sure if you could engineer all 3 of those threads to always match and lock at exactly same position?
Exactly - and also consider the variable thickness of the outermost compression seal that the crown screws down onto. As the o-ring ages and squishes further the crown will turn a little more before seating.

Don't know how they do it on the PM SkyDweller but I suspect it must have an adjustable element to correct for the three threads and get the crown to align.

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Old 26 January 2019, 03:44 PM   #16
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Don't know how they do it on the PM SkyDweller...
...but we know they can do it, and that is indisputable.
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Old 26 January 2019, 03:49 AM   #17
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The non-alignment is because of the threading of the crown stem into its locked position, which is typically fixed (i.e. no matter how much you wind it when unscrewed, it always locks in the same angle). So, if Rolex wanted, they could certainly make it aligned. But who really cares?!
Not true, as the seals wear, its possible to tighten more, so its not constant, but i also don't understand why its an issue!
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Old 26 January 2019, 10:08 AM   #18
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Not true, as the seals wear, its possible to tighten more, so its not constant, but i also don't understand why its an issue!
I've found that to be true on mine and my wife's watches. Our crowns have moved somewhat since we bought them new 5-6 years ago. Hers originally lined up but now does not, mine never did. I haven't really cared either.
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Old 26 January 2019, 02:25 PM   #19
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Not true, as the seals wear, its possible to tighten more, so its not constant, but i also don't understand why its an issue!


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Old 26 January 2019, 04:13 AM   #20
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Perhaps Rolex should get rid of the crown emblem then everyone's crown would line up somewhere.It's a winding crown for winding and setting the watch and it's not supposed to line up with anything


Couldn’t agree more? It is screw down crown. It is not practical to align it. Similar to why some would expect the screw heads to align on the movement plate. I bet Rolex thought people would only care about the case back alignment and therefore they removed text on most models.
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Old 21 December 2019, 09:22 AM   #21
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Perhaps Rolex should get rid of the crown emblem then everyone's crown would line up somewhere.It's a winding crown for winding and setting the watch and it's not supposed to line up with anything
Expect in all their marketing. So it's important to them.
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Old 26 January 2019, 03:17 AM   #22
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Old 26 January 2019, 03:20 AM   #23
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I have a Lucky crown that lines up at the 12 o'clock fully
screwed in and tight on my 116613 LB Blue Sub C...
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Old 26 January 2019, 05:57 AM   #24
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I have a Lucky crown that lines up at the 12 o'clock fully
screwed in and tight on my 116613 LB Blue Sub C...
That's rare. Ask extra when you sell it.
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Old 26 January 2019, 06:00 AM   #25
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That's rare. Ask extra when you sell it.
Ha ha... It's not going anywhere unless I upgrade to
the full PM Bluesy...
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Old 26 January 2019, 03:28 AM   #26
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It’s a crown, is screws in and holds right. Works for me


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Old 26 January 2019, 03:29 AM   #27
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I heard from a low-ball gm dealer he tried to pay some guy lower cause his crown wasn't lined up HAHAHAHAH how far can they sink?
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Old 26 January 2019, 03:41 AM   #28
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None of mine do. Doesn't bother me and it is not expected nor intended to do so.
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Old 26 January 2019, 03:41 AM   #29
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AD told me it’s deliberate they wouldn’t align as each watch would need to be calibrated individually and it would be too time consuming
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Old 26 January 2019, 03:45 AM   #30
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AD told me it’s deliberate they wouldn’t align as each watch would need to be calibrated individually and it would be too time consuming
That makes sense to my comment above
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