Is it possible SS DayC prices can surpass PM DayC prices?!

[Fedpete]

Hey Guys—

116500s look to be gobbled up around here at the 21-23k zone depending on condition.

Have we hit whackyville—is it possible the secondary market pricing for a SS DayC can surpass a PM DayC?

Is a correction in sight or is this the new reality for the Daytona line. Will buyers get burned paying these amounts for a SS sports watch?

Always appreciate the inputs! Have a wonderful Sunday.


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[chrome168]

It all depends on how much will a buyer is willing to pay. If sellers cannot sell at silly prices then it will stabilize at a certain point. I for one will go PM rose gold if SS closes in. Nothing beats the feeling of having full gold on your wrist.

[Fat_ninja]

I didnt see this post... but i literally bumped an older thread. I see some being offered close to $30k. Smoking something. To be fair. The 15202 and all nautilus have moved up as well

[strettyend]

No it won’t last forever and it’s non sensical. These are mass produced watches by a mass produced manufacture. Eventually prices will come down, maybe not back to msrp but they will.

[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by strettyend

No it won’t last forever and it’s non sensical. These are mass produced watches by a mass produced manufacture. Eventually prices will come down, maybe not back to msrp but they will.

With most ADs lucky to get one unit per year, the market will remain tight and elusive for a while.

[jaydav2306]

Originally Posted by strettyend

No it won’t last forever and it’s non sensical. These are mass produced watches by a mass produced manufacture. Eventually prices will come down, maybe not back to msrp but they will.

It will last forever, hasn't this always been the case with the Daytona? i believe it has. The game has changed, lists don't exist anymore in most cases and these hot pieces unless the grey market dies which it won't it's likely to stay like this for a very long time

[Dr Watches]

Originally Posted by jaydav2306

It will last forever, hasn't this always been the case with the Daytona? i believe it has. The game has changed, lists don't exist anymore in most cases and these hot pieces unless the grey market dies which it won't it's likely to stay like this for a very long time

No it hasn’t always been the case. Hand wind Daytona’s sold at huge discounts.

[Chester01]

Originally Posted by strettyend

No it won’t last forever and it’s non sensical. These are mass produced watches by a mass produced manufacture. Eventually prices will come down, maybe not back to msrp but they will.

Not massed produced enough to satisfy demand. Last I heard and this was years ago, each AD only received about 2-4 ss models per year. The ss Daytona as long as I have been in the Rolex game (since mid 1990’s) has been very hard to get. So that’s better than 25 years now of that watch being very hard to get. Took me 14 years to get my ss Daytona, so while the prices are nuts, I can’t see them going down dramatically.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Chester01

Not massed produced enough to satisfy demand. Last I heard and this was years ago, each AD only received about 2-4 ss models per year. The ss Daytona as long as I have been in the Rolex game (since mid 1990’s) has been very hard to get. So that’s better than 25 years now of that watch being very hard to get. Took me 14 years to get my ss Daytona, so while the prices are nuts, I can’t see them going down dramatically.

mine gets a couple a month. I know its pretty accurate because i was at an AD event and there were im guessing more than 10 attendees wearing one. 2 a year would represent over 5 years of allocation at those levels and the watch hasn't even been out that long. That also was a small sample of how many they have probably sold in total

[2nastie]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

mine gets a couple a month. I know its pretty accurate because i was at an AD event and there were im guessing more than 10 attendees wearing one. 2 a year would represent over 5 years of allocation at those levels and the watch hasn't even been out that long. That also was a small sample of how many they have probably sold in total

I definitely agree with this. I know they get at least 1-2 per month of the Daytona and BLRO (at least the larger store does). Sometimes they are “hoarded” until a VIP customer comes in. *cough cough* bundles big time.

I’ve been offered the package deal a year or two ago. And been hinted at the same opportunity for the BLRO close to launch. In addition to that I’ve witnessed in stores of this happening. How else do you produce the watch in less than a week... “oh it happened to arrive” “unclaimed” ... sure....

[Etschell]

Bnib 15400s are 25k. That is ludicrous

[tyler1980]

its possible.... until you get a full PM WG daytona with a ceramic bezel. Getting an OF one is very hard, on a bracelet and priced anywhere near the secondary market SS prices won't happen. Thats going to be a over retail full PM watch. No doubt

Im guessing YG and RG will be a lot more popular than the non ceramic versions as well

I suspect the WG OF is more attractive due to the closeness in price to the SS version even if its on rubber which is probably not most peoples first choice.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

its possible.... until you get a full PM WG daytona with a ceramic bezel. Getting an OF one is very hard, on a bracelet and priced anywhere near the secondary market SS prices won't happen. Thats going to be a over retail full PM watch. No doubt

Im guessing YG and RG will be a lot more popular than the non ceramic versions as well

I suspect the WG OF is more attractive due to the closeness in price to the SS version even if its on rubber which is probably not most peoples first choice.

You still havent gotten your WG OF yet? I thought u been looking for awhile. I see gold ones a lot.

Separately. I prefer the black dial dayC on Of. ...its sublime.

[tyler1980]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

You still havent gotten your WG OF yet? I thought u been looking for awhile. I see gold ones a lot.

Separately. I prefer the black dial dayC on Of. ...its sublime.

still haven't... in a bit of a dilemma though as i really really like the pt daytona too. No way im getting both and i like each for very different reasons. So maybe its good i can't find an OF daytona as now im starting to have second thoughts

The Pt would require some collection consolidation which may not be a bad thing as i dont like having more watches than i actually wear so it could be the perfect excuse.

[Navarino]

Originally Posted by tyler1980

its possible.... until you get a full PM WG daytona with a ceramic bezel. Getting an OF one is very hard, on a bracelet and priced anywhere near the secondary market SS prices won't happen. Thats going to be a over retail full PM watch. No doubt

Im guessing YG and RG will be a lot more popular than the non ceramic versions as well

I suspect the WG OF is more attractive due to the closeness in price to the SS version even if its on rubber which is probably not most peoples first choice.

I think you hit the nail right on the head here. The introduction of the ceramic Daytona bezel has got everyone focused on those models.

I would be more inclined to save up for a YG Daytona as my first full PM Rolex if it came with a ceramic bezel.

If they did a YG Daytona with ceramic bezel and the following, they would sell like hotcakes: 1) black dial with solid flat yellow subdials or 2) flat yellow dial with solid black subdials. Reasoning here is it would get you the closest configuration to some of the classic Daytona 6263s.

[Dsmith1974]

I know which I’d rather buy.

[Vince KSA]

You mean this one below Ninja?

I know the WG is more popular and possibly rarer but the 116515LN is gorgeous!

I'd try this one on Tyler before pulling the trigger.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by Vince KSA

You mean this one below Ninja?

I know the WG is more popular and possibly rarer but the 116515LN is gorgeous!

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Nope not that one. The SS black dial. Modded with end link and oyster flex. Its perfect. But that is nice too lol


Thsi one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IIhxgCGapg

[Vince KSA]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Nope not that one. The SS black dial. Modded with end link and oyster flex. Its perfect. But that is nice too lol


Thsi one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IIhxgCGapg

That's a mod (the link above)I believe Ninja, not possible to buy this off the shelf.

[Fat_ninja]

Originally Posted by Vince KSA

That's a mod (the link above)I believe Ninja, not possible to buy this off the shelf.

Yeah. But its a simple non evasive mod. :). End linka and a rubber strap. I havent done it to my day C yet :). Then again. I havnt worn it yet. Lol

[Roli4life]

Originally Posted by Fat_ninja

Nope not that one. The SS black dial. Modded with end link and oyster flex. Its perfect. But that is nice too lol


Thsi one

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2IIhxgCGapg

That is BA!

[Vince KSA]

Below

[THC]

Great question OP... Very sad testament as to the ridiculous shortage, where this is now the case.
Getting a full PM (meaning a Daytona with a bracelet, not rubber) for almost the same price as SS, is looney tunes

[padi56]

There is a old saying a fool and there money are soon gone,IMHO anyone paying crazy money for what in the real world is a 19 year old Daytona watch with a ceramic bezel and cosmetically changed dial and clasp, must be sixpence short of a shilling.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by padi56

there is a old saying a fool and there money are soon gone,imho anyone paying crazy money for what in the real world is a 19 year old daytona watch with a ceramic bezel and cosmetically changed dial and clasp, must be sixpence short of a shilling.

x2. There is no WIS reasoning to pay the street prices for a Daytona. A small premium can happen for fashion sake but it’s laughable and kinda sad at this point on where the SS Daytona has gone.

[abozz]

Steel Rolex are sold more because they are cheaper, it is obvious, that end up costing more than gold is stupid.

[DeeTee]

It won’t happen.
As steel goes up in price PM does too.
People start going PM since it’s not that far away from prices of SS.

New PM YG is MSRP and RG is getting close.

[AK797]

Originally Posted by DeeTee

It won’t happen.
As steel goes up in price PM does too.
People start going PM since it’s not that far away from prices of SS.

New PM YG is MSRP and RG is getting close.

This should be what happens but then you have the bragging/Insta rights that come more from a rare SS than the higher retail priced Gold that could cause the SS to actually rise past the gold and stay there in our new bizarro world.

[Spartacus]

Originally Posted by DeeTee

It won’t happen.
As steel goes up in price PM does too.
People start going PM since it’s not that far away from prices of SS.

New PM YG is MSRP and RG is getting close.

I agree. My impression from taking to various ADs is that there is a strong portion of buyers that are not price sensitive, and see PM as more prestigious.

My ceramic Daytona is great, the PMs are in a different category.

[bayerische]

If someone pays more for the same watch in SS than PM, then excuse my French, but that person needs to get his head checked.