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louisrjd · 8 March 2019, 04:40 PM

Hi everyone !

I would like to buy my first Rolex tomorrow, and don't know which one to choose between:

A 16700 from 1994
A 16710 from 2003

Both priced at 10 000 USD.

Which one would you go for ???

Thank you very much for your precious help !!!

lee fowler · 8 March 2019, 05:22 PM

Hi would buy the 16700.

tomallen · 8 March 2019, 05:38 PM

Not enough info. Condition, bezel color, boxes and papers, service record, And again condition. I would go with 16710, if both are equal, better movement and the lume is still glowing. 10,000.00 seems high

HogwldFLTR · 8 March 2019, 05:41 PM

The question seems to be whether you need quick time zone changes or quick date change. The two models work considerably differently. The 16710 allows changes of the hour hand by itself; in order to advance the date the 24 hour and needs to be spun. Where as the 16700 has quick change date and the 24 hour hand is tied to the 12 hour hands.

SamP · 10 March 2019, 01:42 AM

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Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

The question seems to be whether you need quick time zone changes or quick date change. The two models work considerably differently. The 16710 allows changes of the hour hand by itself; in order to advance the date the 24 hour and needs to be spun. Where as the 16700 has quick change date and the 24 hour hand is tied to the 12 hour hands.

Also wether you like patena and vintage feel.
Yes - 16700
No - 16710.
Regards

Stevec14 · 8 March 2019, 06:54 PM

Personally I prefer the jumping hour and independent 24 hour hand of the 16710, but if that doesn’t bother you then condition is the key factor here.

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avega357 · 8 March 2019, 07:02 PM

16710 no doubt

2003 is no holes cae, many less 16710 without holes

Also solid end links feels more modern

I have a 2005

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ADR1982 · 8 March 2019, 07:07 PM

16710

JonaG · 8 March 2019, 08:13 PM

16710, no holes, SEL. Done

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Onequik135i · 8 March 2019, 10:33 PM

16710.

strafer_kid · 8 March 2019, 11:44 PM

Both are great watches - quick set date v independent hand - can't really go wrong with either. As someone has already stated, condition etc would be a factor but it should be 'win - win' either way!

springer · 9 March 2019, 01:29 AM

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Originally Posted by strafer_kid

Both are great watches - quick set date v independent hand - can't really go wrong with either. As someone has already stated, condition etc would be a factor but it should be 'win - win' either way!

I would agree with Kenny. Personally, I would go with the GMT 16700 when comparing similar watches.

louisrjd · 9 March 2019, 01:37 AM

Thank you for your replies !
To answer your questions: they are both in perfect condition, Pepsi bezel, with original papers but no box.
I still have a doubt in terms of investment value for both watches: 10K USD seems to be the correct price based on what I see on internet, but it is today at its highest ever, do you think it is still a good investment at this price ? And that it could still go up in the years to come ?

koryong · 9 March 2019, 03:32 PM

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Originally Posted by louisrjd

Thank you for your replies !
To answer your questions: they are both in perfect condition, Pepsi bezel, with original papers but no box.
I still have a doubt in terms of investment value for both watches: 10K USD seems to be the correct price based on what I see on internet, but it is today at its highest ever, do you think it is still a good investment at this price ? And that it could still go up in the years to come ?

Prices for these 2 references will only go up since they're discontinued, and the older reference will eventually surpass the newer one.

LLmrol · 9 March 2019, 04:52 PM

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Originally Posted by louisrjd

Thank you for your replies !
To answer your questions: they are both in perfect condition, Pepsi bezel, with original papers but no box.
I still have a doubt in terms of investment value for both watches: 10K USD seems to be the correct price based on what I see on internet, but it is today at its highest ever, do you think it is still a good investment at this price ? And that it could still go up in the years to come ?

Perhaps you should buy shares or real estate instead?

However, if answering your original question I’d go for the 16700

exador · 10 March 2019, 01:05 AM

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Originally Posted by louisrjd

To answer your questions: they are both in perfect condition, Pepsi bezel, with original papers but no box.
I still have a doubt in terms of investment value for both watches: 10K USD seems to be the correct price based on what I see on internet, but it is today at its highest ever, do you think it is still a good investment at this price?

$10k is about right for the 16710 but 16700s typically sell for about $2k less.

AckAck · 10 March 2019, 04:01 AM

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Originally Posted by exador

$10k is about right for the 16710 but 16700s typically sell for about $2k less.

Which is strange, it should be the other way around. Lots of supply for the 16710. Barely any 16700’s in mint condition for sale.

BrazenC5 · 10 March 2019, 04:05 AM

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Originally Posted by AckAck

Which is strange, it should be the other way around. Lots of supply for the 16710. Barely any 16700’s in mint condition for sale.

I've had both...i would guess people prefer the bracelet and the jump hour feature.

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henrylee · 10 March 2019, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by AckAck

Which is strange, it should be the other way around. Lots of supply for the 16710. Barely any 16700’s in mint condition for sale.

Newer movement with the ability to track three time zones. 16710 holds in its own league.

AckAck · 10 March 2019, 04:28 AM

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Originally Posted by henrylee

Newer movement with the ability to track three time zones. 16710 holds in its own league.

With this logic your saying the 126710 is more collectible than a 6542... because it has a newer movement and time zone tacking..

fotkom · 27 May 2019, 03:20 AM

16710

meyers · 27 April 2019, 05:10 AM

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Originally Posted by AckAck

Which is strange, it should be the other way around. Lots of supply for the 16710. Barely any 16700’s in mint condition for sale.

Something to remember is the 16710 was offered with a coke insert option; the 16700 wasn't. For everyday wear, probably not an important distinction - the coke insert fits both. But at a purist level, those details matter and it may factor into the differences in price.

IMO the jump hour complication of the 16710 is far more useful than quick-set date of the 16700

Alc · 1 May 2019, 11:11 PM

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Originally Posted by meyers

Something to remember is the 16710 was offered with a coke insert option; the 16700 wasn't. For everyday wear, probably not an important distinction - the coke insert fits both. But at a purist level, those details matter and it may factor into the differences in price.

IMO the jump hour complication of the 16710 is far more useful than quick-set date of the 16700

This is good to know, thanks for sharing.

Boaters · 9 March 2019, 01:55 AM

I think they are both beauties would more less come down to condition. I do prefer the no hole lugs on my 16710 D series. Happy hunting and please post some pics when you get it.

Fort Rolex · 9 March 2019, 02:11 AM

I often rotate watches so I really like the quick set date of the 16700 and that’s what I bought

AdamG · 9 March 2019, 04:36 PM

16700

Slimmer case and far lower production numbers

henrylee · 9 March 2019, 04:44 PM

16710 with the jumping hour and independent 24hour hand is the way to go. It comes in handy every time I travel.

BrazenC5 · 9 March 2019, 06:19 PM

Do you like lume, yes (16710) or no (16700)?

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NasiLemak227 · 9 March 2019, 06:32 PM

Tried both on today. Movement aside, the 16700 sits better and has a slimmer profile. Was initially going for a 16710 but looks like i'll start hunting for the older model.

AntoMeRolexPassion · 9 March 2019, 08:04 PM

16700, "the last of GMT-Master"

16710 was produced for seven more years; on 10 GMT sapphire you see 8 are 710...

8 March 2019, 04:40 PM	#1
louisrjd "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 2	Need help ! GMT 16700 or 16710 ??? Hi everyone ! I would like to buy my first Rolex tomorrow, and don't know which one to choose between: A 16700 from 1994 A 16710 from 2003 Both priced at 10 000 USD. Which one would you go for ??? Thank you very much for your precious help !!!

8 March 2019, 05:22 PM	#2
lee fowler 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2015 Location: UK Watch: GMT Posts: 2,559	Hi would buy the 16700. __________________ Instagram: @lee1563

8 March 2019, 05:38 PM	#3
tomallen 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Tom Location: Connecticut Watch: Rolex SubC,GMTIIC Posts: 966	Not enough info. Condition, bezel color, boxes and papers, service record, And again condition. I would go with 16710, if both are equal, better movement and the lume is still glowing. 10,000.00 seems high __________________ Unless you are the lead dog the scenery never changes

8 March 2019, 05:41 PM	#4
HogwldFLTR 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Lee Location: 42.48.45N70.48.48 Watch: Too many to list! Posts: 33,697	The question seems to be whether you need quick time zone changes or quick date change. The two models work considerably differently. The 16710 allows changes of the hour hand by itself; in order to advance the date the 24 hour and needs to be spun. Where as the 16700 has quick change date and the 24 hour hand is tied to the 12 hour hands. __________________ Troglodyte in residence! https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=808599

8 March 2019, 07:02 PM	#7
avega357 Banned Join Date: Dec 2016 Location: Miami Watch: Rolex GMT's BLNR Posts: 797	Need help ! GMT 16700 or 16710 ??? 16710 no doubt 2003 is no holes cae, many less 16710 without holes Also solid end links feels more modern I have a 2005 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

8 March 2019, 06:54 PM	#6
Stevec14 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2016 Real Name: Steve Location: U.K. Watch: 321, Snoopy 3 Posts: 4,483	Personally I prefer the jumping hour and independent 24 hour hand of the 16710, but if that doesn’t bother you then condition is the key factor here. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

8 March 2019, 07:07 PM	#8
ADR1982 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2018 Location: Parent's basement Posts: 251	16710

8 March 2019, 08:13 PM	#9
JonaG "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: East Watch: ... Posts: 1,171	16710, no holes, SEL. Done Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Yacht-Master 126622, GMT-Master II 16710, Submariner 114060, Sea-Dweller 16600, Panerai Luminor PAM111 Lange Saxonia Moon Phase 384.029, Tudor Black Bay Harrods M79230G.

8 March 2019, 10:33 PM	#10
Onequik135i "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa, Florida Watch: 116610LV Posts: 2,574	16710. __________________ 16750 / 116610LV / 116613LB / Ed White 321 / PAM111 / PAM170

8 March 2019, 11:44 PM	#11
strafer_kid "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2009 Real Name: Kenny Location: northern ireland Watch: SDs, Subs & GMTs Posts: 5,136	Both are great watches - quick set date v independent hand - can't really go wrong with either. As someone has already stated, condition etc would be a factor but it should be 'win - win' either way!

9 March 2019, 01:37 AM	#13
louisrjd "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2019 Location: Hong Kong Posts: 2	Thank you for your replies ! To answer your questions: they are both in perfect condition, Pepsi bezel, with original papers but no box. I still have a doubt in terms of investment value for both watches: 10K USD seems to be the correct price based on what I see on internet, but it is today at its highest ever, do you think it is still a good investment at this price ? And that it could still go up in the years to come ?

27 May 2019, 03:20 AM	#21
fotkom "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: Poland Posts: 9	16710 Attached Images

9 March 2019, 01:55 AM	#24
Boaters 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mike Location: Pacific Northwest Watch: 116610LV 16710 SD Posts: 10,653	I think they are both beauties would more less come down to condition. I do prefer the no hole lugs on my 16710 D series. Happy hunting and please post some pics when you get it.

9 March 2019, 02:11 AM	#25
Fort Rolex "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Location: New Jersey Posts: 586	I often rotate watches so I really like the quick set date of the 16700 and that’s what I bought

9 March 2019, 04:36 PM	#26
AdamG "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2015 Real Name: Adam Location: HNL, LDN, SHA Watch: 5 digit ref Posts: 397	16700 Slimmer case and far lower production numbers

9 March 2019, 04:44 PM	#27
henrylee "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Socal/LA Watch: 116610LN Ceramic Posts: 3,223	16710 with the jumping hour and independent 24hour hand is the way to go. It comes in handy every time I travel. __________________ ♛ Sub 116610LN 2011 ♛ GMT 126710BLNR 2021 ♛ GMT 126711CHNR 2020 ♛ Datejust 16233 X-series 1993 Ω Speedmaster Mitsukoshi 2019 č Cartier Tank w5200025 2021

9 March 2019, 06:19 PM	#28
BrazenC5 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2014 Real Name: Chris Location: Los Angeles, CA Watch: 1665,1675,1680,SD4 Posts: 1,837	Do you like lume, yes (16710) or no (16700)? Sent from my SM-G920V using Tapatalk

9 March 2019, 06:32 PM	#29
NasiLemak227 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Location: Rolex Dreamland Posts: 16	Tried both on today. Movement aside, the 16700 sits better and has a slimmer profile. Was initially going for a 16710 but looks like i'll start hunting for the older model.

9 March 2019, 08:04 PM	#30
AntoMeRolexPassion "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2019 Real Name: Antonio Location: Messina - Italy Posts: 140	16700, "the last of GMT-Master" 16710 was produced for seven more years; on 10 GMT sapphire you see 8 are 710...

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