SD43 Mark I dial officially discontinued!

[rambo99]

Rolex has finally updated the photo on their website. SD43 with the mark i dial should now hold a premium over the mark ii dial down the road as its rarer and signify the true 50th anniversary. glad that i got my SD43 mark i last July.

[SearChart]

I didn't know that dial variations of modern watches affected value...

[TswaneNguni]

I dont see it as a big issue .

[doboy007]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I didn't know that dial variations of modern watches affected value...

Some people live for it.

[Phudu]

Originally Posted by doboy007

Some people live for it.

[peterpl]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I didn't know that dial variations of modern watches affected value...

HAHAHAHA

These days "anything" to justify a price hike.

[Tools]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I didn't know that dial variations of modern watches affected value...

It doesn't.

There are those who do look for every tiny cosmetic difference though. Whether something catches the eye of collectors at some point in time is an unknown.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I didn't know that dial variations of modern watches affected value...

Well today's Rolex owners go crazy on the slightest font difference,sticky-back plastic or even a screw change.

[padi56]

Originally Posted by SearChart

I didn't know that dial variations of modern watches affected value...

Mostly now Bas in internet fantasy land and the various sellers stating things like very rare Mk1 dial and all the rare Mk dial in future.Buyers then see the internet hype rush out to buy,then declare on the various forums they have something rare.

[peterpl]

Originally Posted by padi56

Mostly now Bas in internet fantasy land and the various sellers stating things like very rare Mk1 dial and all the rare Mk dial in future.Buyers then see the internet hype rush out to buy,then declare on the various forums they have something rare.

Hahahahaah

Good post.

Everyone on here stating my Mk1 is a future collectable, only XXX amount you just gotta wonder if their mind is actually in here for the enjoyment or they if and thats a big IF one day 50-100 years from now it will be worth a few grand in premium.

Just crazy to be speculating on this type of nonsense on modern day watches.

[TakeYourTime]

Thanks for sharing! I'm so happy I got one :)

[watchmaker]

Vintage watches command a premium because there were fewer watches made 50+ years ago AND there are even fewer that survived and are in good condition today.

Today far more watches are produced (even when you factor in things like a mk1 dial in a short production run) AND everybody expects their watch to be the next DRSD or Paul Newman. Meaning in 2069 the market will be saturated with mint condition 50 year old Rolex watches (other brands too) and disappointed owners who can't retire to the Maldives as planned.

Just my two cents.

[Chadridv]

Originally Posted by watchmaker

Vintage watches command a premium because there were fewer watches made 50+ years ago AND there are even fewer that survived and are in good condition today.

Today far more watches are produced (even when you factor in things like a mk1 dial in a short production run) AND everybody expects their watch to be the next DRSD or Paul Newman. Meaning in 2069 the market will be saturated with mint condition 50 year old Rolex watches (other brands too) and disappointed owners who can't retire to the Maldives as planned.

Just my two cents.

If someone thinks their mki SD43 will be the next Paul Newman, they’re delusional. However it sounds like you don’t think there will be any demand for the mk1 and there I disagree with you.

What it will be worth? I have no idea, but it’s possible it could have a similar value path of a flat 4 LV.

[watchmaker]

Originally Posted by Chadridv

If someone thinks their mki SD43 will be the next Paul Newman, they’re delusional. However it sounds like you don’t think there will be any demand for the mk1 and there I disagree with you.

What it will be worth? I have no idea, but it’s possible it could have a similar value path of a flat 4 LV.

I have no doubt there will be demand for MK1 dials.

What we don't know is how many dial iterations will there be over the life of the 126600. MK1 could easily end up not being the shortest production run. Maybe the as yet unmade 'Mk5 dial' could be rarest of them all. Only time will tell.

[oldman2005]

I don't think there isn't that much Mk1 out there, after the 1st year, I talked to a few ADs and learned that each of them got 1-2 SD43, now multiply that by number of ADs, my guess is maybe there around 2000-3000 Mk1 out there. This watch is an investment grade imo

[Roli4life]

Originally Posted by oldman2005

I don't think there isn't that much Mk1 out there, after the 1st year, I talked to a few ADs and learned that each of them got 1-2 SD43, now multiply that by number of ADs, my guess is maybe there around 2000-3000 Mk1 out there. This watch is an investment grade imo

I heard the same from AD he only got two between 17 and early 18. When I spoke to him last week he asked me if I still had my red SD, ‘’because it’s soon to be the next flat 4. When it come to collectible Rolex’’.
obviously I have not sold mine, but I thought it was funny that he said if I ever thought about selling, to give him a call first. LoL!

[FoolioABC]

What's the difference between previous and now?

[SimonUK82]

Originally Posted by FoolioABC

What's the difference between previous and now?

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[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by FoolioABC

What's the difference between previous and now?

The first watches released in 2017 didn't have the little crown on the dial at the 6 o'clock position.

The crown appeared on all watches with the new 70 hour power reserve movement at Basel 2018.

The thing is, the SD43 has always had the 70 hour power reserve movement but as the early watches didn't have the crown on the dial this makes them a little bit unique and some collectors think this will make them more desirable, thus more valuable, in the future.

Only time will tell...

[Fabrice M]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

The first watches released in 2017 didn't have the little crown on the dial at the 6 o'clock position.

The crown appeared on all watches with the new 70 hour power reserve movement at Basel 2018.

The thing is, the SD43 has always had the 70 hour power reserve movement but as the early watches didn't have the crown on the dial this makes them a little bit unique and some collectors think this will make them more desirable, thus more valuable, in the future.

Only time will tell...

Good point.

[Roli4life]

Originally Posted by Swiss Mad!

The first watches released in 2017 didn't have the little crown on the dial at the 6 o'clock position.



The crown appeared on all watches with the new 70 hour power reserve movement at Basel 2018.



The thing is, the SD43 has always had the 70 hour power reserve movement but as the early watches didn't have the crown on the dial this makes them a little bit unique and some collectors think this will make them more desirable, thus more valuable, in the future.



Only time will tell...

It’s not just the crown...
Rolex also changed up the way the 1’s are written on the dial.
They went from matching stick one’s (l) that matched the one at bottom 6 on MK1 anniversary dials. To a one like the (#1) on the following batch.

Small changes but huge since the sticks seem to only be on the SD43 for the first limited MK1 batches, they never used them on the Sub that year or anything else I know of?

Rolex historically seems to make these little ‘mistakes’ on anniversary runs, much like they did on the Kermit flat 4. I don’t believe this was an incidental error, and even if it were it still separates them from all batches that followed.
Even if you lost your warranty card it would be obvious that this was one a MK1.

Picture from Basel 17. Rolex wanted an Anniversary SD, and I think the dial proves that they don’t speak, but they do wink from time to time.

[Swiss Mad!]

Originally Posted by Roli4life

It’s not just the crown...
Rolex also changed up the way the 1’s are written on the dial.
They went from matching stick one’s (l) that matched the one at bottom 6 on MK1 anniversary dials. To a one like the (#1) on the following batch.

Small changes but huge since the sticks seem to only be on the SD43 for the first limited MK1 batches, they never used them on the Sub that year or anything else I know of?

Rolex historically seems to make these little ‘mistakes’ on anniversary runs, much like they did on the Kermit flat 4. I don’t believe this was an incidental error, and even if it were it still separates them from all batches that followed.
Even if you lost your warranty card it would be obvious that this was one a MK1.

Picture from Basel 17. Rolex wanted an Anniversary SD, and I think the dial proves that they don’t speak, but they do wink from time to time.

Excellent observations regarding the way no.1 is written on the original dials.

I did not know this previously, thank you



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[soxfan39]

I was about to trade mine + $ for a 116619 smurf. Now I have to reconsider.

[JacksonStone]

Originally Posted by Roli4life

It’s not just the crown...
Rolex also changed up the way the 1’s are written on the dial.
They went from matching stick one’s (l) that matched the one at bottom 6 on MK1 anniversary dials. To a one like the (#1) on the following batch.

Small changes but huge since the sticks seem to only be on the SD43 for the first limited MK1 batches, they never used them on the Sub that year or anything else I know of?

Rolex historically seems to make these little ‘mistakes’ on anniversary runs, much like they did on the Kermit flat 4. I don’t believe this was an incidental error, and even if it were it still separates them from all batches that followed.
Even if you lost your warranty card it would be obvious that this was one a MK1.

Good catch. Were all the Mk1 (no-crown) dials the same in terms of numeral font, or were there differences among them, as well?

[jonnyz1245]

Originally Posted by JacksonStone

Good catch. Were all the Mk1 (no-crown) dials the same in terms of numeral font, or were there differences among them, as well?

I just went back through the FS archives and all of them I looked at as far back as Oct 2017, it is the match stick "I" and not "1". Not sure if that means all MK1 in existence are but the sample set of approx 30 I looked at are all "I" and not a single "1"

Now folks can retire early in 20 years when MK1 is worth a gazillion $

Just noticed this is post 2K for me. It only took me 9 years :

[jonnyz1245]

Originally Posted by Roli4life

They went from matching stick one’s (l) that matched the one at bottom 6 on MK1 anniversary dials. To a one like the (#1) on the following batch.

For clarity is he saying that "matching sticks that matched the one at bottom 6" mean the number one on mark one dials "1220" is expressed like a match stick or I? and that on mark 2 dials its a 1? I assume that is the meaning intended.

Mark one = I
Mark two = 1

[Roli4life]

Originally Posted by jonnyz1245

For clarity is he saying that "matching sticks that matched the one at bottom 6" mean the number one on mark one dials "1220" is expressed like a match stick or I? and that on mark 2 dials its a 1? I assume that is the meaning intended.

Mark one = I
Mark two = 1

Yes

[nightpilot]

Originally Posted by FoolioABC

What's the difference between previous and now?

I think it is the Rolex crown between the words 'SWISS' and 'MADE' at the bottom of the dial.

[soundserious]

Originally Posted by nightpilot

I think it is the Rolex crown between the words 'SWISS' and 'MADE' at the bottom of the dial.

I’d much rather have the crown. Looks cool.

[Chronographer]

As an SD43 mk1 owner, I could not even begin telling you how unimportant the 1 _ 2 thing is to the enjoyment I get from it.