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Henkan · 7 April 2019, 06:34 PM

Hi,

Could you guys please helt to identify the characteristics for my 1675 and what's correct and not? My head is spinning with all long E's etc. and I cannot seem to get i right.

The bracelet is of course new but I still have the rivet bracelet stamped 1 67. The serial is 5 174 xxx.

Thanks!

Henkan

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ak4_defEa5wJgx_TJsnArIwSY7Kb
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ak4_defEa5wJgyAS6OoK3jhat6Zk
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ak4_defEa5wJgyLzwj5VszK0u9-Q
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ak4_defEa5wJgyGoavY0JV5eRXDn

HarryLime · 7 April 2019, 06:56 PM

It's a mk1 dial (long E) with service hands and service insert. Not sure where that 5 in front of the serial number came from though.

1675-David · 8 April 2019, 01:56 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryLime

It's a mk1 dial (long E) with service hands and service insert. Not sure where that 5 in front of the serial number came from though.

x2

post an image of the engraving between the lugs to verify the case and age of the watch.

Henkan · 8 April 2019, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by 1675-David

x2

post an image of the engraving between the lugs to verify the case and age of the watch.

Here you go!

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ak4_defEa5wJgycuDNARwnm6IgeP
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ak4_defEa5wJgyj6F-ZM43vfXeAg

Henkan

Henkan · 7 April 2019, 07:22 PM

Thanks! What is out of place with the 5? The bracelet (1 67) might were well not be original to the watch.

bazin · 7 April 2019, 07:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Henkan

Thanks! What is out of place with the 5? The bracelet (1 67) might were well not be original to the watch.

IMO the dial is a service part too.........see "O" of ROLEX and several characters of GMT-MASTER.

I own a 5.3XX.XXX 1675 purchased in 1978 with non-riveted bracelet..........still cpl. original, no service parts...

HarryLime · 8 April 2019, 03:48 AM

Ok now I'm not sure what you have

If it's a mark 1 dial, then it falls in line with the 1967 bracelet. However the serial indicates the watch is way newer than that.

Henkan · 8 April 2019, 04:36 AM

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Originally Posted by HarryLime

Ok now I'm not sure what you have

If it's a mark 1 dial, then it falls in line with the 1967 bracelet. However the serial indicates the watch is way newer than that.

Strange, could the dial be a service dial on a newer watch? The bracelet could or could not belong to the watch I guess. What would a correct serial number range be for the dial (if it is original and not service)?

Henkan

1675-David · 8 April 2019, 04:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Henkan

Strange, could the dial be a service dial on a newer watch? The bracelet could or could not belong to the watch I guess. What would a correct serial number range be for the dial (if it is original and not service)?

Henkan

It's a mk1 dial not a service dial and it's in a case that looks questionable.

Henkan · 8 April 2019, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by 1675-David

It's a mk1 dial not a service dial and it's in a case that looks questionable.

What do you think are the questionable parts?

1675-David · 8 April 2019, 04:09 AM

orig rolex design? 5.1 mill serial

Have you owned this watch for a long time Henrik?

Henkan · 8 April 2019, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by 1675-David

orig rolex design? 5.1 mill serial

Have you owned this watch for a long time Henrik?

I have owned this for over 15 years.

1675-David · 8 April 2019, 05:03 AM

the engraving on the case looks questionable, the words ORIG ROLEX DESIGN shouldn't be there on a 5 mil case. It should read REGISTERED DESIGN. I also thing the engraving font style looks suspect. These of course this is only my opinion and I defer to those who know better but if I was offered this watch to purchase I would politely decline.

Henkan · 8 April 2019, 05:08 AM

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Originally Posted by 1675-David

the engraving on the case looks questionable, the words ORIG ROLEX DESIGN shouldn't be there on a 5 mil case. It should read REGISTERED DESIGN. I also thing the engraving font style looks suspect. These of course this is only my opinion and I defer to those who know better but if I was offered this watch to purchase I would politely decline.

Thanks for your input. The strange this is that someone should have gone through all the hassle of making this 20 years ago when there was no collectors market for it. Today sure, but 20 years ago?

Anyway thanks for your input! Anyone else that could shed some light?

Henkan

Dan S · 8 April 2019, 05:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Henkan

Thanks for your input. The strange this is that someone should have gone through all the hassle of making this 20 years ago when there was no collectors market for it. Today sure, but 20 years ago?

Anyway thanks for your input! Anyone else that could shed some light?

Henkan

I can only agree with what has been said. Replacement hands and bezel insert. MkI dial that is too early for the case serial number, and unusual engraving on the case. Perhaps it is a service case, although it doesn't have the usual 4.4M or 4.7M number. What is engraved inside the case-back?

Henkan · 8 April 2019, 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Dan S

I can only agree with what has been said. Replacement hands and bezel insert. MkI dial that is too early for the case serial number, and unusual engraving on the case. Perhaps it is a service case, although it doesn't have the usual 4.4M or 4.7M number. What is engraved inside the case-back?

The case back is engraved with IV.68. So maybe the middle case is a service case then? As everything else lines up to late 60 specs?

Did a little google and from what I understand 5 mil serial could have Orig Rolex Design as they chaned during that period from Registered Design?

Henkan

Dan S · 8 April 2019, 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Henkan

Did a little google and from what I understand 5 mil serial could have Orig Rolex Design as they chaned during that period from Registered Design?

I'm not sure what you Googled, but that part is not correct. Just go to HQ Milton and you can find dozens of 1675s with 5M serial numbers (you can search for 1675 1977). Every one of them will say Registered Design. The switch to Original Rolex Design came later.

springer · 8 April 2019, 07:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Henkan

The case back is engraved with IV.68. So maybe the middle case is a service case then? As everything else lines up to late 60 specs?

Did a little google and from what I understand 5 mil serial could have Orig Rolex Design as they chaned during that period from Registered Design?

Henkan

The internet is not always four friend or correct. You seem to be shopping for someone or something to tell you the watch is correct. Good luck with your endeavors.

springer · 8 April 2019, 07:45 AM

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1675-David · 8 April 2019, 05:13 AM

You could reach out to Springer, he is our resident 1675 specialist on the boarding is infinitely more versed in this ref. than I am

springer · 8 April 2019, 05:36 AM

The serial number doesn't match the dial. The current dial is a Mark I which was way out of production before the 5 million case numbers. The insert is not correct either though probably genuine.

Orig Rolex Design is not correct for a 5 million case number.

The area between both lugs is "mint" - it literally has very little to no end link marks or wear.

The serial number stamping isn't very straight - it seems somewhat crooked and there is more spacing between the 7 and 4 than with the other numerals.

Personally, I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of this watch. Too many red flags for me.

7 April 2019, 06:34 PM	#1
Henkan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Moon Posts: 78	What 1675 do I have? Hi, Could you guys please helt to identify the characteristics for my 1675 and what's correct and not? My head is spinning with all long E's etc. and I cannot seem to get i right. The bracelet is of course new but I still have the rivet bracelet stamped 1 67. The serial is 5 174 xxx. Thanks! Henkan https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ak4_defEa5wJgx_TJsnArIwSY7Kb https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ak4_defEa5wJgyAS6OoK3jhat6Zk https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ak4_defEa5wJgyLzwj5VszK0u9-Q https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ak4_defEa5wJgyGoavY0JV5eRXDn

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8 April 2019, 05:36 AM	#21
springer 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2008 Real Name: jP Location: Texas Watch: GMT-MASTER Posts: 17,319	The serial number doesn't match the dial. The current dial is a Mark I which was way out of production before the 5 million case numbers. The insert is not correct either though probably genuine. Orig Rolex Design is not correct for a 5 million case number. The area between both lugs is "mint" - it literally has very little to no end link marks or wear. The serial number stamping isn't very straight - it seems somewhat crooked and there is more spacing between the 7 and 4 than with the other numerals. Personally, I wouldn't want to be on the receiving end of this watch. Too many red flags for me. __________________ Member of NAWCC since 1990. INSTAGRAM USER NAME: SPRINGERJFP Visit my Instagram page to view some of the finest vintage GMTs anywhere - as well as other vintage classics.

7 April 2019, 06:56 PM	#2
HarryLime "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: NY Posts: 676	It's a mk1 dial (long E) with service hands and service insert. Not sure where that 5 in front of the serial number came from though.

7 April 2019, 07:22 PM	#5
Henkan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Location: Moon Posts: 78	Thanks! What is out of place with the 5? The bracelet (1 67) might were well not be original to the watch.

8 April 2019, 03:48 AM	#7
HarryLime "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2018 Location: NY Posts: 676	Ok now I'm not sure what you have If it's a mark 1 dial, then it falls in line with the 1967 bracelet. However the serial indicates the watch is way newer than that.

8 April 2019, 04:09 AM	#11
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,061	orig rolex design? 5.1 mill serial Have you owned this watch for a long time Henrik?

8 April 2019, 05:03 AM	#13
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,061	the engraving on the case looks questionable, the words ORIG ROLEX DESIGN shouldn't be there on a 5 mil case. It should read REGISTERED DESIGN. I also thing the engraving font style looks suspect. These of course this is only my opinion and I defer to those who know better but if I was offered this watch to purchase I would politely decline.

8 April 2019, 05:13 AM	#20
1675-David "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Stockholm Posts: 6,061	You could reach out to Springer, he is our resident 1675 specialist on the boarding is infinitely more versed in this ref. than I am

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