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1904 Submariner · 16 February 2009, 09:19 AM

Hi all.

5 years ago I bought a Sub on ebay. Since then I have had it on a NATO strap. I have always wondered if the bracelet it came on was genuine, as it looked too nice for a 40 year old watch. Now that I've found this website, I have someone to ask.

So here's what I've got:

Submariner
5513
238xxxx (should be 1968-1969 I think)
200m 660ft

On one end link there is the number 7206.
On the two end pieces, there is the number 58.
On one half of the clasp is

2
6 6

That's all the markings there are. Also, when it is on the watch, the fitment of the end pieces to the watch case doesn't seem as nice as it should...which gives me doubts.

So what do you think?

ocwatching · 16 February 2009, 11:24 AM

check out oysterworld.de
great info on bracelets manufactured dates...and other Rolex stuff

1904 Submariner · 16 February 2009, 11:41 AM

That's a great website! Lots of info. Unfortunately I don't see anything that would make me think my bracelet is genuine. In fact, the clasp looks different from all the ones shown. Hmmm.....

Anyone else want to weigh in on this?

ippon20 · 16 February 2009, 11:48 AM

I'm interested to see pics of the Sub after seeing your bracelet. I would say leave it on the NATO...have you had it serviced since you bought it off the bay?

1904 Submariner · 16 February 2009, 11:58 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ippon20

I'm interested to see pics of the Sub after seeing your bracelet. I would say leave it on the NATO...have you had it serviced since you bought it off the bay?

Yes I had it serviced once when I got water in it.

And in fact it is being serviced again right now. Here is a not so great picture. The markers have been refinshed, and then discolored a little more from the salt water.

And I do plan on keeping it on the NATO but since I just found this site and am all excited about watches again, I figured I'd try to find out about the bracelet.

It's not the prettiest Sub out there, but it's mine.

ippon20 · 16 February 2009, 12:21 PM

Nice sub...she belongs on the NATO. The experts will chime in about the bracelet, but I really wanted to see the watch in question.

1904 Submariner · 16 February 2009, 03:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ippon20

Nice sub...she belongs on the NATO. The experts will chime in about the bracelet, but I really wanted to see the watch in question.

This is the reason I bought the watch in the first place.

SLS · 16 February 2009, 04:13 PM

Not the best pictures, but from what I see your bracelet appears correct. Here are a few pics of mine from a 1967 5513 Sub

~Scott

eparisini · 16 February 2009, 06:36 PM

The right bracelet is 7206 with 80 endpieces

1904 Submariner · 16 February 2009, 11:49 PM

What I've got looks exactly like the bracelet SLS posted. The only difference is my endpieces are 58 not 80.

What is the difference between 58 and 80?

Why are they different? Why would endpieces be replaced?

Also there is the fitment issue. I can't post pictures because the watch is being serviced. But where the top part of the endpiece meets the watch case just doesn't seem right.

Can I switch out the endpieces for the correct ones? Where do I find 80 endpieces?

Man this is great! Nothing like waking up and getting good news about my Sub. I'll be back after work. Thank you all for the help.

eparisini · 17 February 2009, 12:11 AM

58 endpieces fit GMT 1675
80 endpieces fit Submariner

Ask Steve Mullholland or search in ebay.com

mike · 17 February 2009, 12:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by eparisini

58 endpieces fit GMT 1675
80 endpieces fit Submariner

Ask Steve Mullholland or search in ebay.com

X2.

Parachrom · 17 February 2009, 12:18 AM

Nice Bond Starp, and a nice example of the SUb. You have a 1960 to 1970 style of riveted bracelet. I sold off one of these on flea bay without end pieces, it still went for over 600 US . End pieces can be had on Flea bay they come up frequently but they are aftermarket if yo really want one bad enough. I think your Bond makes the watch

Saxon007 · 17 February 2009, 12:41 AM

Here ya go: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=67921

1904 Submariner · 17 February 2009, 10:52 AM

You guys rock!

Tools · 17 February 2009, 11:19 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1904 Submariner

You guys rock!

Yes..... yes we do...............

TempoKing · 17 February 2009, 11:21 AM

Looks great to me..

ocwatching · 17 February 2009, 11:23 AM

nice sub my friend

1904 Submariner · 17 February 2009, 02:14 PM

I'll post more pics when I get it back from service. Steve is working on correct end pieces for me.

I like it here.

greekbum · 17 February 2009, 02:31 PM

Is there a 332 on a 7206 or is this wrong? A guy tried selling me this a few weeks ago when I was searching for a band for my 1970 Sub. Seller said its for a 60-70's sub but it didnt look 100% right to me so I passed but heres what it looked like.What do you guys say?Is it a very good fake or did I pass on a good band?He was asking $800.00

1904 Submariner · 17 February 2009, 02:47 PM

I know as little as you, but this is a chart that was posted in another thread earlier today.

I don't see 332 listed.

Lamone · 3 March 2009, 12:33 PM

Great chart!
What does oyster Opt stand for?

16 February 2009, 09:19 AM	#1
1904 Submariner "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: MF 5513 Posts: 71	Bracelet Question Hi all. 5 years ago I bought a Sub on ebay. Since then I have had it on a NATO strap. I have always wondered if the bracelet it came on was genuine, as it looked too nice for a 40 year old watch. Now that I've found this website, I have someone to ask. So here's what I've got: Submariner 5513 238xxxx (should be 1968-1969 I think) 200m 660ft On one end link there is the number 7206. On the two end pieces, there is the number 58. On one half of the clasp is 2 6 6 That's all the markings there are. Also, when it is on the watch, the fitment of the end pieces to the watch case doesn't seem as nice as it should...which gives me doubts. So what do you think?

16 February 2009, 11:24 AM	#2
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	check out oysterworld.de great info on bracelets manufactured dates...and other Rolex stuff __________________ too much into watches...

16 February 2009, 11:48 AM	#4
ippon20 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Dan Location: Orlando/NSB, FL Watch: 16710 (3186) Posts: 1,629	I'm interested to see pics of the Sub after seeing your bracelet. I would say leave it on the NATO...have you had it serviced since you bought it off the bay? __________________ Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018 Instagram @pivot_and_spine

16 February 2009, 12:21 PM	#6
ippon20 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Real Name: Dan Location: Orlando/NSB, FL Watch: 16710 (3186) Posts: 1,629	Nice sub...she belongs on the NATO. The experts will chime in about the bracelet, but I really wanted to see the watch in question. __________________ Official Member "Perpetual 30" Las Vegas International GTG 2016 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2017 Official Member "WIS-CON" Las Vegas International GTG 2018 Instagram @pivot_and_spine

16 February 2009, 04:13 PM	#8
SLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2006 Real Name: Scott Location: GMT -7 Watch: GMT's & Sub's Posts: 10,401	Not the best pictures, but from what I see your bracelet appears correct. Here are a few pics of mine from a 1967 5513 Sub ~Scott __________________ "The bitterness of poor quality remains long after the sweetness of lower price is forgotten." -Benjamin Franklin Member No. 922

16 February 2009, 11:41 AM	#3
1904 Submariner "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: MF 5513 Posts: 71	That's a great website! Lots of info. Unfortunately I don't see anything that would make me think my bracelet is genuine. In fact, the clasp looks different from all the ones shown. Hmmm..... Anyone else want to weigh in on this?

16 February 2009, 06:36 PM	#9
eparisini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Emanuele Location: Italy Watch: 6263 FAP Posts: 795	The right bracelet is 7206 with 80 endpieces

16 February 2009, 11:49 PM	#10
1904 Submariner "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: MF 5513 Posts: 71	What I've got looks exactly like the bracelet SLS posted. The only difference is my endpieces are 58 not 80. What is the difference between 58 and 80? Why are they different? Why would endpieces be replaced? Also there is the fitment issue. I can't post pictures because the watch is being serviced. But where the top part of the endpiece meets the watch case just doesn't seem right. Can I switch out the endpieces for the correct ones? Where do I find 80 endpieces? Man this is great! Nothing like waking up and getting good news about my Sub. I'll be back after work. Thank you all for the help.

17 February 2009, 12:11 AM	#11
eparisini "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Emanuele Location: Italy Watch: 6263 FAP Posts: 795	58 endpieces fit GMT 1675 80 endpieces fit Submariner Ask Steve Mullholland or search in ebay.com

17 February 2009, 12:18 AM	#13
Parachrom "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: canada Posts: 721	Nice Bond Starp, and a nice example of the SUb. You have a 1960 to 1970 style of riveted bracelet. I sold off one of these on flea bay without end pieces, it still went for over 600 US . End pieces can be had on Flea bay they come up frequently but they are aftermarket if yo really want one bad enough. I think your Bond makes the watch

17 February 2009, 12:41 AM	#14
Saxon007 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2008 Location: Texas Posts: 2,002	Here ya go: http://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=67921

17 February 2009, 10:52 AM	#15
1904 Submariner "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: MF 5513 Posts: 71	You guys rock!

17 February 2009, 11:21 AM	#17
TempoKing Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Real Name: Anastasios Location: Athens Greece Watch: Rolex GMT 1675 Posts: 8,497	Looks great to me..

17 February 2009, 11:23 AM	#18
ocwatching "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Phil Location: CA Posts: 5,374	nice sub my friend __________________ too much into watches...

17 February 2009, 02:14 PM	#19
1904 Submariner "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: MF 5513 Posts: 71	I'll post more pics when I get it back from service. Steve is working on correct end pieces for me. I like it here.

17 February 2009, 02:31 PM	#20
greekbum "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2007 Real Name: Nikos Location: Florida Watch: Rolex GMT 16750 Posts: 8,418	Is there a 332 on a 7206 or is this wrong? A guy tried selling me this a few weeks ago when I was searching for a band for my 1970 Sub. Seller said its for a 60-70's sub but it didnt look 100% right to me so I passed but heres what it looked like.What do you guys say?Is it a very good fake or did I pass on a good band?He was asking $800.00 Attached Images __________________ Follow Me On Instagram @nickgogas Original Owner ROLEX 16750 GMT Daily Wearer For Over 13,000 Days And Counting

17 February 2009, 02:47 PM	#21
1904 Submariner "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: USA Watch: MF 5513 Posts: 71	I know as little as you, but this is a chart that was posted in another thread earlier today. I don't see 332 listed.

3 March 2009, 12:33 PM	#22
Lamone Banned Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: NYC Watch: ya mawt! Posts: 3,448	Great chart! What does oyster Opt stand for?

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