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Robbyman · 11 June 2019, 04:23 AM

Having seen both today I can confirm 100% there is a huge difference in both.

The colours are much deeper and the numbers are much brighter on the mk2. The watch is more in your face.

Not just because I have one, but I much prefer the mk1 just because of the numbers being less pronounced. As for colours I would just prefer the mk2 if I had to pick but I cannot get over how bright the numbers are when you see it in the flesh.

Attached is a really crap picture.

Syed117 · 11 June 2019, 04:26 AM

Well, those certainly look very different.

Pentameter · 11 June 2019, 08:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Syed117

Well, those certainly look very different.

A lot of that is due to the photo though. Look at the steel - the light is hitting the watch on the left far more than the one on the right. They very well may be different as OP says, but you really can't base that off this photo.

Uggi · 11 June 2019, 04:26 AM

Only an idiot would deny there are two variations.
I like both but I've seen the Mk2 in the flesh and it is less eye-catching than the Mk1 for me.

Fat_ninja · 11 June 2019, 04:27 AM

I prefer mk1

WCHROLX · 14 April 2020, 05:38 AM

They look similar but lots of differences can be clearly seen.

Token74 · 11 June 2019, 04:31 AM

Personally don’t think this picture proves anything, the light will have made a big difference.

However, firstly, if a forum member says they’ve seen both next to each other and there is a clear difference, who the heck am I to argue.

Secondly, whilst I can get mine (supposed Mark 1) to go dark in some light conditions, I cannot get rid of the purple tinge. Whereas the supposed Mark 2 show no signs of purple at times.

The other thing to note is that if you go back through all the incomings from when these first surfaced, they nearly all show the pastel colouring - whereas if you search on recent incomings, they nearly all don’t. That cannot be coincidence.

Not sure people are even doubting it now are they?

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Robbyman · 11 June 2019, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Token74

Personally don’t think this picture proves anything, the light will have made a big difference.

However, firstly, if a forum member says they’ve seen both next to each other and there is a clear difference, who the heck am I to argue.

Secondly, whilst I can get mine (supposed Mark 1) to go dark in some light conditions, I cannot get rid of the purple tinge. Whereas the supposed Mark 2 show no signs of purple at times.

The other thing to note is that if you go back through all the incomings from when these first surfaced, they nearly all show the pastel colouring - whereas if you search on recent incomings, they nearly all don’t. That cannot be coincidence.

Not sure people are even doubting it now are they?

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There is a massive difference for sure!

pepsiretail · 11 June 2019, 04:41 AM

Oh yes, no doubt there are two versions. It is interesting that you remark on the bezel numerals as I almost thought they were a wider font when I confirmed for myself a MK I and MK II.

I absolutely prefer my MK I and, as per my now locked thread on the topic, it is an extremely rare watch, likely destined to be one of the most collectable SS Professional models of all time.

Robbyman · 11 June 2019, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by pepsiretail

Oh yes, no doubt there are two versions. It is interesting that you remark on the bezel numerals as I almost thought they were a wider font when I confirmed for myself a MK I and MK II.

I absolutely prefer my MK I and, as per my now locked thread on the topic, it is an extremely rare watch.

Yep the mk1 looks well, just classy in comparison. Almost like a modern vintage look with a slide fade.

The mk2 is bling to me!

pepsiretail · 11 June 2019, 04:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbyman

Yep the mk1 looks well, just classy in comparison. Almost like a modern vintage look with a slide fade.

The mk2 is bling to me!

I agree, it is more subdued and has a more vintage vibe. MK II is still a beauty though.

Those of us lucky few who got an early one certainly appear even luckier now.

Macnavara · 11 June 2019, 06:04 AM

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Originally Posted by pepsiretail

I agree, it is more subdued and has a more vintage vibe. MK II is still a beauty though.

Those of us lucky few who got an early one certainly appear even luckier now.

I was gutted when the mk2 started to surface...thought it was so much nicer but now like you guys im starting to think it looks nicer

AJMarcus · 30 July 2019, 05:11 AM

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Originally Posted by Robbyman

Yep the mk1 looks well, just classy in comparison. Almost like a modern vintage look with a slide fade.

The mk2 is bling to me!

The MK 1; which I have, definitely has a vintage vibe harkening back to the Bakelite bezel Pepsi of old. It’s almost uncanny.

sillo · 11 June 2019, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by pepsiretail

it is an extremely rare watch, likely destined to be one of the most collectable SS Professional models of all time.

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Originally Posted by pepsiretail

unbelievably rare. This is likely the rarest SS Professional model of all time.

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Originally Posted by pepsiretail

The MK I is without a doubt, for now at least for it is possible every year might show a variation, the rarest SS Professional model I can think of.

we get it you own one and would want it to become the future PN Daytona.

pepsiretail · 11 June 2019, 08:48 AM

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Originally Posted by sillo38

we get it you own one and would want it to become the future PN Daytona.

lol, yes maybe you are right

But seriously, it's true I feel a little compelled to defend my position on the existence and collectability of the MK I.

ALF61 · 11 June 2019, 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by pepsiretail

lol, yes maybe you are right

But seriously, it's true I feel a little compelled to defend my position on the existence and collectability of the MK I.

The jury is still out on this one, and if it were confirmed it seems that more and more people became more interested in the pepsi when they learned of the modified colors.

I still wonder if there are differences, and still doubt that it will become more valuable. You are entitled to your opinion on future value, let me state mine also. It has nothing to do with personal taste I respect those who love their watches as they are.

pepsiretail · 11 June 2019, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by ALF61

The jury is still out on this one, and if it were confirmed it seems that more and more people became more interested in the pepsi when they learned of the modified colors.

I still wonder if there are differences, and still doubt that it will become more valuable. You are entitled to your opinion on future value, let me state mine also. It has nothing to do with personal taste I respect those who love their watches as they are.

That's fine, it really doesn't matter to me, everyone can have their taste and their opinion on what will be the end result. I can assure you, if the watch does go nuclear in value I will not be the one to realize the gain, because I am never selling mine.

dnpina · 28 July 2019, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by sillo38

we get it you own one and would want it to become the future PN Daytona.

Are you a professional mind-reader? Because you read my mind.

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Macnavara · 21 July 2019, 09:37 PM

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Originally Posted by pepsiretail

Oh yes, no doubt there are two versions. It is interesting that you remark on the bezel numerals as I almost thought they were a wider font when I confirmed for myself a MK I and MK II.

I absolutely prefer my MK I and, as per my now locked thread on the topic, it is an extremely rare watch, likely destined to be one of the most collectable SS Professional models of all time.

Im picking up a mk2 tomorrow so ill do some side by side shots when i get back home next to my mk1....very interested to see the difference difference

Number3 · 21 July 2019, 10:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Macnavara

Im picking up a mk2 tomorrow so ill do some side by side shots when i get back home next to my mk1....very interested to see the difference difference

Would love to see this.

diewithme · 21 July 2019, 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Macnavara

Im picking up a mk2 tomorrow so ill do some side by side shots when i get back home next to my mk1....very interested to see the difference difference

There wont be any.. sorry for spoiler :)

Macnavara · 24 July 2019, 04:42 AM

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Originally Posted by diewithme

There wont be any.. sorry for spoiler :)

Well you are so wrong I'm afraid...the mk2 I've just picked up is so dark it looks like a coke..sorry but why anyone denies this mk1 mk2 thing is beyond me....I'll post a photo when back home tomorrow

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diewithme · 24 July 2019, 07:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Macnavara

Well you are so wrong I'm afraid...the mk2 I've just picked up is so dark it looks like a coke..sorry but why anyone denies this mk1 mk2 thing is beyond me....I'll post a photo when back home tomorrow

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still waiting for it.

diewithme · 24 July 2019, 07:16 AM

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Originally Posted by Macnavara

Well you are so wrong I'm afraid...the mk2 I've just picked up is so dark it looks like a coke..sorry but why anyone denies this mk1 mk2 thing is beyond me....I'll post a photo when back home tomorrow

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mine was delivered in may 2019, it can look any pink/violet ,so as deep red and nearly black, not forgetting absolute pastel and 5 seconds later glossy as diamond. So?

pepsiretail · 24 July 2019, 06:13 AM

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Originally Posted by diewithme

There wont be any.. sorry for spoiler :)

lol why speak on a subject you have no knowledge of?

Robbyman · 11 June 2019, 04:46 AM

Just to add I had cleaned mine this morning so the difference in numbers was not dirt!

goldenboy80 · 11 June 2019, 06:14 AM

Whether MK1 or MK2 the colors of the new 126710 definitely do not appear to be the primary colors used in the interior of Pan Am planes or "Pepsi" colors. The difference between MK1 and MK2 is subtle to my eye.

I just bought a 16710 last week and the colors are definitely closer to primary colors.

Both the MK1 and MK2 bezels look purple and fuschia versus blue and red. They are beautiful and complex colors but it is curious why Rolex went in this direction. Was it a conscious choice?

Wristwatcherboy · 11 June 2019, 06:16 AM

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Originally Posted by goldenboy80

Whether MK1 or MK2 the colors of the new 126710 definitely do not appear to be the primary colors used in the interior of Pan Am planes or "Pepsi" colors. The difference between MK1 and MK2 is subtle to my eye.

I just bought a 16710 last week and the colors are definitely closer to primary colors.

Both the MK1 and MK2 bezels look purple and fuschia versus blue and red. They are beautiful and complex colors but it is curious why Rolex went in this direction. Was it a conscious choice?

I think it was a technical limitation of the material and manufacturing process rather than a choice.

pepsiretail · 11 June 2019, 06:20 AM

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Originally Posted by goldenboy80

Whether MK1 or MK2 the colors of the new 126710 definitely do not appear to be the primary colors used in the interior of Pan Am planes or "Pepsi" colors. The difference between MK1 and MK2 is subtle to my eye.

I just bought a 16710 last week and the colors are definitely closer to primary colors.

Both the MK1 and MK2 bezels look purple and fuschia versus blue and red. They are beautiful and complex colors but it is curious why Rolex went in this direction. Was it a conscious choice?

Yes, Rolex has said that they wanted to emulate the look of the very first Bakelite bezels, which the aluminum bezel versions never achieved. The modern ceramic is truer to the original than the 16710.

Personally, and without negativity or the intent to offend, the aluminum bezel is jarring and obvious in its colour, they don't start to appeal to me until they are faded. However, there is sweet spot and too faded also does not appeal to me.

goldenboy80 · 11 June 2019, 06:34 AM

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Originally Posted by pepsiretail

Yes, Rolex has said that they wanted to emulate the look of the very first Bakelite bezels, which the aluminum bezel versions never achieved. The modern ceramic is truer to the original than the 16710.

Personally, and without negativity or the intent to offend, the aluminum bezel is jarring and obvious in its colour, they don't start to appeal to me until they are faded. However, there is sweet spot and too faded also does not appeal to me.

Yes, I think I agree with you regarding the aluminum bezel coloring. It would be nice if the colors developed into something a bit more complex. The question is how to initiate the aluminum to begin fading. Is it necessary to move to the tropics and become a pirate for a few years? I am prepared to do so if the forum recommends this course of action. I mean, priorities, people...

11 June 2019, 04:23 AM	#1
Robbyman "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Blighty (England) Watch: Daytona/Pepsi/Sub Posts: 1,517	BLRO mk1 & mk2 Having seen both today I can confirm 100% there is a huge difference in both. The colours are much deeper and the numbers are much brighter on the mk2. The watch is more in your face. Not just because I have one, but I much prefer the mk1 just because of the numbers being less pronounced. As for colours I would just prefer the mk2 if I had to pick but I cannot get over how bright the numbers are when you see it in the flesh. Attached is a really crap picture.

11 June 2019, 04:26 AM	#2
Syed117 "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Real Name: Syed Location: The Ether Posts: 3,388	Well, those certainly look very different. __________________ Rolex Datejust 41 126334 \| Omega Speedmaster Professional Hesalite \| Cartier Santos Large \| Tudor Black Bay 58

11 June 2019, 04:31 AM	#7
Token74 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2012 Real Name: Vince Location: England Watch: Too many! Posts: 5,744	Personally don’t think this picture proves anything, the light will have made a big difference. However, firstly, if a forum member says they’ve seen both next to each other and there is a clear difference, who the heck am I to argue. Secondly, whilst I can get mine (supposed Mark 1) to go dark in some light conditions, I cannot get rid of the purple tinge. Whereas the supposed Mark 2 show no signs of purple at times. The other thing to note is that if you go back through all the incomings from when these first surfaced, they nearly all show the pastel colouring - whereas if you search on recent incomings, they nearly all don’t. That cannot be coincidence. Not sure people are even doubting it now are they? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Time is limited, make every second count. Patek Philippe Nautilus 5990 - AP Royal Oak 15300 - AP Royal Oak 15450 Blue - AP Royal Oak 15450 Silver - AP Royal Oak Offshore 26480 - Royal Oak Offshore 15710 - Rolex Sea Dweller 116600 - Rolex Daytona 116519 - Rolex GMT 126710 BLRO - Omega Speedmaster Reduced - JLC Reverso GMT Moonphase - TAG Microtimer - Dent Pocket Watch - JLC Atmos Phases de lune

11 June 2019, 04:26 AM	#4
Uggi Banned Join Date: Apr 2018 Location: HOME! Posts: 1,175	Only an idiot would deny there are two variations. I like both but I've seen the Mk2 in the flesh and it is less eye-catching than the Mk1 for me.

11 June 2019, 04:27 AM	#5
Fat_ninja Banned Join Date: May 2018 Real Name: Jonathan Location: USA Watch: P-01 Posts: 11,772	I prefer mk1

14 April 2020, 05:38 AM	#6
WCHROLX Banned Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: usa Posts: 105	They look similar but lots of differences can be clearly seen.

11 June 2019, 04:41 AM	#9
pepsiretail Banned Join Date: May 2019 Location: Canada Posts: 2,052	Oh yes, no doubt there are two versions. It is interesting that you remark on the bezel numerals as I almost thought they were a wider font when I confirmed for myself a MK I and MK II. I absolutely prefer my MK I and, as per my now locked thread on the topic, it is an extremely rare watch, likely destined to be one of the most collectable SS Professional models of all time.

11 June 2019, 04:46 AM	#26
Robbyman "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2013 Location: Blighty (England) Watch: Daytona/Pepsi/Sub Posts: 1,517	Just to add I had cleaned mine this morning so the difference in numbers was not dirt!

11 June 2019, 06:14 AM	#27
goldenboy80 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: New York City Watch: Rolex Daytona Posts: 111	Whether MK1 or MK2 the colors of the new 126710 definitely do not appear to be the primary colors used in the interior of Pan Am planes or "Pepsi" colors. The difference between MK1 and MK2 is subtle to my eye. I just bought a 16710 last week and the colors are definitely closer to primary colors. Both the MK1 and MK2 bezels look purple and fuschia versus blue and red. They are beautiful and complex colors but it is curious why Rolex went in this direction. Was it a conscious choice?

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