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Old 16 July 2019, 09:47 AM   #1
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AP diver 15710 polishing check

UHi guys
Think of buying this beast
Any has experience to confirm if it’s been polished or not
My knowledge is very humbled in AP
Need your thoughts

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Old 16 July 2019, 10:38 AM   #2
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If it has been, it’s not glaringly obvious, and that’s the problem with trying to ascertain such things from limited quality images.
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Old 16 July 2019, 10:02 PM   #3
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If it has been, it’s not glaringly obvious, and that’s the problem with trying to ascertain such things from limited quality images.


Wow I thought you were a self proclaimed expert in all things AP......it’s clearly had work done to the bezel and possibly the case too. OP this shouldn’t necessarily be a deal breaker but if you buy it you should allow around £700 for a service at AP as you need to be sure that the water resistance is ok if the bezel has been removed.


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Old 16 July 2019, 11:22 AM   #4
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Old 16 July 2019, 11:32 AM   #5
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100% it’s been lightly polished. The edges on the bezel aren’t as sharp as if it were new
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Old 16 July 2019, 12:05 PM   #6
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Old 16 July 2019, 01:53 PM   #7
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AP diver 15710 polishing check

Hard to give a definitive answer from the photos, but the screw depth in the bezel just looks a tiny tiny bit off as well as the vertical brushing itself - could equally be down to a lighting effect though.

More than anything, if the condition of the bezel is perfect (as in no swirls or scuffs) and it’s not been sitting in a drawer somewhere, then chances are it’s had a fresh polish.
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Old 16 July 2019, 09:41 PM   #8
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Owning a 1 yr old watch of the same reference that hasn’t been polished I can say that one has been.

The brushing on the bezel is certainly not 100% vertical and the area at 9oclock looks especially “worked”.

The sides shouldn’t have such obvious brush marks either.

These photos were taken moments after the cling wrap came off...






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Old 16 July 2019, 10:46 PM   #9
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OP try and get a good resolution photo of the case back so that you can see the screws. Although it isn’t definitive you sometimes see that the screw slots are damaged which shows that the watch has been worked on by someone other than AP, this voids the warranty. In this case a service at AP would give you a new warranty, from memory this would be 2 years but I could be wrong.


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Old 16 July 2019, 11:05 PM   #10
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From those pics, it does not look good.
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Old 18 July 2019, 05:02 PM   #11
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I skipped the deal
Still looking for unpolished piece ����
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Old 18 July 2019, 05:10 PM   #12
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Unpolished diver

Another one
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Old 18 July 2019, 05:42 PM   #13
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Another one
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looks good
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Old 19 July 2019, 05:33 AM   #14
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Maybe the seller doesn’t understand what you mean by polished. The bezel has been refinished with the wrong grit sandpaper. I’ve highlighted where the satin (they’re no longer satin) brush lines meet the polished area and there are lots of bizarre scratches. This is evidence of someone using sandpaper to re finish the bezel without removing it and doing it properly. If you doubt what I’m saying then ask how the bezel (the area most prone to scratches/knocks) can be completely scratch free and yet the polished area below it has loads of scratches.


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Old 19 July 2019, 06:02 AM   #15
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Maybe the seller doesn’t understand what you mean by polished. The bezel has been refinished with the wrong grit sandpaper. I’ve highlighted where the satin (they’re no longer satin) brush lines meet the polished area and there are lots of bizarre scratches. This is evidence of someone using sandpaper to re finish the bezel without removing it and doing it properly. If you doubt what I’m saying then ask how the bezel (the area most prone to scratches/knocks) can be completely scratch free and yet the polished area below it has loads of scratches.


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It actually looks good to me. It would be almost impossible to add or effectively re-apply the vertical brushing without removing the bezel and maintain a flat surface on the bezel face due to the protruding sapphire crystal.

The wear pattern isn’t too dissimilar to mine, the polished edges are showing a lot more damage than the brushed face where it seems to accumulate less wear and it’s more hidden due to the finish.

The screw depth also looks good, unlike the previous example the OP shared.

The only thing which does seem a touch off is the crispness of the lines between brushed & polished but actually it has softened on mine a bit due to wear and it could also be an effect of the photo.









A few reference pics for comparison OP. The angle of each photo can have such a big impact on how it looks and what scratches are visible. Ultimately buy the seller before the watch, or if in doubt/ unsure go via a boutique or AD.
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Old 19 July 2019, 11:27 AM   #16
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I think it would be much better to buy new one to avoid all this confusion lol
Thanks guys for sharing your experience
Any good ppl or website to buy from with confidence
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Old 20 July 2019, 12:52 AM   #17
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I think it would be much better to buy new one to avoid all this confusion lol
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Best place is AP direct. Isn’t there a boutique in your hometown ?
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Old 21 July 2019, 09:48 PM   #18
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yes we do have but unfortunately have to wait at least 4 ot 6 months to get one
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Old 22 July 2019, 02:56 AM   #19
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yes we do have but unfortunately have to wait at least 4 ot 6 months to get one


Wow - even just for a diver black dial ?

I would have thought this would be one of the most easily available AP pieces.

Often their quoted delivery times are overstated so if you order now it may be only two months in reality.
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Old 22 July 2019, 08:20 PM   #20
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yup

you are correct but since our price 18900 usd so the demand is very high

gotta just wait
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Old 22 July 2019, 08:48 PM   #21
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Wow - even just for a diver black dial ?

I would have thought this would be one of the most easily available AP pieces.

Often their quoted delivery times are overstated so if you order now it may be only two months in reality.
I was told next year for mine thats why i went pre owned.
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Old 22 July 2019, 11:21 PM   #22
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Hi guys, sorry OP don’t want to open the same topic on top of yours, but also can you guys help me out, the same question, posting some pictures


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Old 23 July 2019, 02:40 AM   #23
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Looks like at least the face of the bezel has been refinished. The screws seem to be flush with the surface and in some parts protrude over based on the photos.



This is unpolished.

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Old 23 July 2019, 09:12 AM   #24
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Better picture, looks the same as
My ROO 42




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