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Trog · 29 July 2019, 08:48 AM

After four years of ownership, it was time to say goodbye to the old Panhead. Spent many an hour restoring the old girl, but she hasn't been on the road for a while, so I figured it was time for another enthusiast to enjoy the ride.

Now with a bunch of cash in my pocket, it was time to source a 5513 Meters First Submariner. It didn't take long to find this fine sample.....a 1.8 mil serial, unpolished in pretty good shape.

I wasted no time to close the deal.

Now the question.....do I restore the watch (including a polish), or just enjoy its patina? It has recently been serviced and runs perfectly.

Thoughts?

CharlesN · 29 July 2019, 08:52 AM

Enjoy it as it is for the moment.

If in a while you feel it needs extra TLC then the RSC is the only place I would send it.

gsg · 1 August 2019, 02:33 AM

No, you really DO NOT want to send a vintage sub to the RSC...

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesN

Enjoy it as it is for the moment.

If in a while you feel it needs extra TLC then the RSC is the only place I would send it.

BisonHead · 1 August 2019, 03:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CharlesN

Enjoy it as it is for the moment.

If in a while you feel it needs extra TLC then the RSC is the only place I would send it.

Really? No chance.

watchmework · 29 July 2019, 08:52 AM

Enjoy the patina, congrats on the Sub!

seabreeze60 · 29 July 2019, 08:52 AM

Definitely do not restore. Let the thread give you suggestions.

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The Libertine · 29 July 2019, 08:53 AM

Purely awesome!

Onequik135i · 29 July 2019, 08:56 AM

Leave it as is, if service is needed send it to an independent watchmaker for service only. Congrats on the sale and the new watch.

Frank McKay · 29 July 2019, 09:02 AM

Awesome vintage look, don’t change a thing until your gut tells you to! Enjoy

Nanasaka90 · 29 July 2019, 09:06 AM

Awesome. Unlike the Harley you can use it everyday, regardless of the weather. It's funny how most people simply won't understand a trade like this.

SpeakWithMichael · 29 July 2019, 09:12 AM

I think you did well.

Oldfellow · 29 July 2019, 09:22 AM

Great pickup, enjoy it as it came, until it needs attention.

Michaeli Paulo · 29 July 2019, 09:43 AM

Absolutely stunning and handsome!!

1665fan · 29 July 2019, 11:02 AM

That watch has been polished....10oclock lug is skinnier than the rest...the seller lied to you

Trog · 29 July 2019, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by 1665fan

That watch has been polished....10oclock lug is skinnier than the rest...the seller lied to you

10-Oclock:

John S · 1 August 2019, 04:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Trog

10-Oclock:

Non-polished lug should look like this.

JacksonRain · 1 August 2019, 05:50 AM

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Originally Posted by John S

Non-polished lug should look like this.

respectfully, not particularly helpful since the casings are entirely different in size and design.

timepiecegentleman · 29 July 2019, 11:44 AM

I would leave it the way it is. Enjoy it. If you ever decide to sell it, that patina will definitely make it an easier sell and fetch a higher premium.

Odie-r · 29 July 2019, 12:16 PM

Nice addition! And bike, haha.

Urosfan · 29 July 2019, 12:22 PM

Congrats

rjstuf001 · 29 July 2019, 12:29 PM

Great pickup but that watch looks polished. The lug edges are all rounded.

Serious question: is rust acceptable in a vintage watch or is that considered "patina"?

Macnavara · 29 July 2019, 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by rjstuf001

Great pickup but that watch looks polished. The lug edges are all rounded.

Serious question: is rust acceptable in a vintage watch or is that considered "patina"?

I was going to ask the same thing...rust is not patina and id defo have that sorted as its not a good sign for sure.....it would have maybe put me of to be honest as ive never seen a rusty rolex

Pauln · 29 July 2019, 01:03 PM

Wow. Can’t believe you sold that bike. Great job restoring it.

Trog · 29 July 2019, 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Pauln

Wow. Can’t believe you sold that bike. Great job restoring it.

It was an enjoyable and educational restoration over 4-years.

Time for a new project.

HogwldFLTR · 1 August 2019, 09:42 AM

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Originally Posted by Trog

It was an enjoyable and educational restoration over 4-years.

Time for a new project.

Beautiful Pan!!! I'd be sad to see that FLH go!!!

Trog · 2 August 2019, 01:32 AM

For those of you who appreciate both vintage bikes and watches....why is it a fully restored old Panhead gets thumbs up

, yet the thought of restoring an old Submariner is met with disapproval?

seabreeze60 · 2 August 2019, 07:41 AM

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Originally Posted by Trog

For those of you who appreciate both vintage bikes and watches....why is it a fully restored old Panhead gets thumbs up

, yet the thought of restoring an old Submariner is met with disapproval?

Because the TRF are WIS. It just true with collectible vintage Rolex, particularly sports models. I’d carefully look at all options before making a decision on your collectible. For example, what’s the value of a restored 5513 versus your watch with the rust stains removed (without changing any parts).

Good luck!

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colpol · 31 July 2019, 07:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Pauln

Wow. Can’t believe you sold that bike. Great job restoring it.

Agree but the bikes gone & nice pickup in its place ;.)

I blew my 1680 fund on a Yamaha XT660z about 9 years ago but luckily through a hard saving drive managed to get the 1680 a few years later. Hope another bike on the near horizon

Pauln · 1 August 2019, 12:50 AM

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Originally Posted by colpol

Agree but the bikes gone & nice pickup in its place ;.)

I blew my 1680 fund on a Yamaha XT660z about 9 years ago but luckily through a hard saving drive managed to get the 1680 a few years later. Hope another bike on the near horizon

You're happy and a biker is happy. Best all-around.

watchtung · 29 July 2019, 01:42 PM

100% polished. You were sold something that was inaccurate in its description.

29 July 2019, 08:48 AM	#1
Trog Banned Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Great White North Posts: 696	Sold the Harley, picked up a Sub After four years of ownership, it was time to say goodbye to the old Panhead. Spent many an hour restoring the old girl, but she hasn't been on the road for a while, so I figured it was time for another enthusiast to enjoy the ride. Now with a bunch of cash in my pocket, it was time to source a 5513 Meters First Submariner. It didn't take long to find this fine sample.....a 1.8 mil serial, unpolished in pretty good shape. I wasted no time to close the deal. Now the question.....do I restore the watch (including a polish), or just enjoy its patina? It has recently been serviced and runs perfectly. Thoughts? Attached Images

29 July 2019, 08:52 AM	#2
CharlesN "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2005 Location: The UK Watch: I love them all. Posts: 1,860	Enjoy it as it is for the moment. If in a while you feel it needs extra TLC then the RSC is the only place I would send it. __________________ Regards, CharlesN Member of the IWJG.

29 July 2019, 08:56 AM	#8
Onequik135i "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Location: Tampa, Florida Watch: 116610LV Posts: 2,573	Leave it as is, if service is needed send it to an independent watchmaker for service only. Congrats on the sale and the new watch. __________________ 16750 / 116610LV / 116613LB / Ed White 321 / PAM111 / PAM170

29 July 2019, 12:16 PM	#19
Odie-r "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: London Posts: 4,452	Nice addition! And bike, haha. __________________ @watchtheleftwrist

29 July 2019, 12:29 PM	#21
rjstuf001 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2014 Location: CO, USA Watch: Made in Suisse Posts: 444	Great pickup but that watch looks polished. The lug edges are all rounded. Serious question: is rust acceptable in a vintage watch or is that considered "patina"? __________________ Rolex 14060M · 16710 · 114270 · 16570 · 116520 · 16200 Tudor 79090 Breitling · Hamilton · IWC · Jaeger-LeCoultre · Longines · Omega · Tag Heuer · Zenith

29 July 2019, 08:52 AM	#5
watchmework "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: DC Watch: 126710BLRO, 116600 Posts: 7,869	Enjoy the patina, congrats on the Sub!

29 July 2019, 08:52 AM	#6
seabreeze60 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Dan Location: USA Watch: Tudor, Carl F. Buc Posts: 1,580	Definitely do not restore. Let the thread give you suggestions. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

29 July 2019, 08:53 AM	#7
The Libertine Banned Join Date: May 2014 Real Name: Mike Location: BOS Watch: 16710;14060;214270 Posts: 6,375	Purely awesome!

29 July 2019, 09:02 AM	#9
Frank McKay "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Chicago Posts: 1,650	Awesome vintage look, don’t change a thing until your gut tells you to! Enjoy

29 July 2019, 09:06 AM	#10
Nanasaka90 "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Earth Watch: 16600, 126600, 126 Posts: 298	Awesome. Unlike the Harley you can use it everyday, regardless of the weather. It's funny how most people simply won't understand a trade like this.

29 July 2019, 09:12 AM	#11
SpeakWithMichael "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2017 Location: Jacksonville, FL Watch: Superocean 44not42 Posts: 1,757	I think you did well.

29 July 2019, 09:22 AM	#12
Oldfellow 2024 ROLEX DATEJUST41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2018 Location: Australia Posts: 2,195	Great pickup, enjoy it as it came, until it needs attention.

29 July 2019, 09:43 AM	#13
Michaeli Paulo "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2019 Location: USA Watch: Rolex Submariner Posts: 357	Absolutely stunning and handsome!!

29 July 2019, 11:02 AM	#14
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,660	That watch has been polished....10oclock lug is skinnier than the rest...the seller lied to you

29 July 2019, 11:44 AM	#18
timepiecegentleman Banned Join Date: Oct 2017 Real Name: Anthony Farrer Location: Dallas, TX Watch: 116613LN Bluesy Posts: 1,994	I would leave it the way it is. Enjoy it. If you ever decide to sell it, that patina will definitely make it an easier sell and fetch a higher premium.

29 July 2019, 12:22 PM	#20
Urosfan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2012 Location: NYC Watch: Me now Posts: 19,372	Congrats

29 July 2019, 01:03 PM	#23
Pauln "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Paul Location: Colorado Watch: Explorer Posts: 1,543	Wow. Can’t believe you sold that bike. Great job restoring it.

2 August 2019, 01:32 AM	#26
Trog Banned Join Date: Apr 2014 Location: Great White North Posts: 696	For those of you who appreciate both vintage bikes and watches....why is it a fully restored old Panhead gets thumbs up , yet the thought of restoring an old Submariner is met with disapproval?

29 July 2019, 01:42 PM	#30
watchtung "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2019 Location: San Francisco Watch: 16700, bb 58, kira Posts: 125	100% polished. You were sold something that was inaccurate in its description. __________________ https://www.instagram.com/vintagewatchbro/

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