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Old 3 August 2019, 09:57 PM   #1
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Advice for those who have gone SS to PM

Hey Friends,

After seeing a thread this week about going PM from SS got me thinking...again.

BLUF (bottom line up front): Should I trade up for a PM?

Backstory (if you would like to read):

For a while now I have wanted to trim down the collection. Do not get me wrong, it has been a blast collecting and having a lot of variety, but you guys who have a three/four watch collection have always been my heroes. After reading some threads on upgrading to PM from SS really got me thinking: what if I consulate and upgrade to gold? The PM has not been decided yet, I am just getting a feel if you guys think I am crazy or if you would go to phase two, which would be deciding what PM Rolex to get.

For my collection, I have:

(-) Big Pilot Transitional*
(-) Omega Speedmaster*
(-) Seiko Alpinist
(-) Daytona (116500LN White)*
(-) Hamilton Khaki Field
(-) Sub (114060)
(-) Tudor GMT
(-) OP 39 White (114300)
(-) Yachtmaster Rhodium (116622)

The three with the “*” are ones that I DO NOT want to get rid of (the IWC, Daytona, or Speedy) but all others are on the table for trading up.
Let me know your thoughts and what you think.

I know “do what makes you happy” but I also like getting a litmus test with fellow collectors/enthusiasts/addicts. Enjoy your weekend!
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Old 3 August 2019, 10:01 PM   #2
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In your collection if you are trading up I’d move to a YG sub

Sell the YM, OP, Tudor, sub
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In your collection if you are trading up I’d move to a YG sub

Sell the YM, OP, Tudor, sub
My thoughts exactly, I agree 100%,
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Old 4 August 2019, 10:16 PM   #4
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Since you favor professional model watches I would go with a bluesy YG sub (or maybe a green face GMT).

Don't fall into the trap of getting a Day Date solely because it can be considered "dressier." A gold sub will do just fine with a suit if you like the appearance better. If you go PM buy something you will want to wear all the time and not become a safe queen.

Also be aware that once you go to a full gold watch it may change your opinion on some of your other watches.
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Go for it Sir! Having too many watches sometimes clutters the mind of some people, including me. As mentioned in another thread, if we are honest to ourselves, we can only rotate so many.

For me, rotating more than 3 feels like a chore.

So probably 5 special watches is the ideal number to keep.
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Old 3 August 2019, 10:41 PM   #6
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100% in favor of this idea!
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Everyone should have at least 1 Rolex Full YG in their collection. Nothing like a full YG Rolex.
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The three with the * are the ones I would keep as well. Everything else up for grabs.
As for which PM? Entirely personal.
I prefer my divers in SS so I went with the GMT for PM.
Good luck with it!
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Old 4 August 2019, 12:26 AM   #9
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The three with the * are the ones I would keep as well. Everything else up for grabs.
As for which PM? Entirely personal.
I prefer my divers in SS so I went with the GMT for PM.
Good luck with it!
Yes they are a nice SS set, so go for a PM, probably a Sub to replace the SS one or a DD, try them all on and go with what feels right, great time ahead for you.

They were my first two PMs altho GMT is very nice too.

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Yes they are a nice SS set, so go for a PM, probably a Sub to replace the SS one or a DD, try them all on and go with what feels right, great time ahead for you.

They were my first two PMs altho GMT is very nice too.

I'd be very very very happy with that trio. Pretty much the ultimate PM trifecta.
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Old 4 August 2019, 02:53 AM   #11
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As for which PM? Entirely personal.
I prefer my divers in SS so I went with the GMT for PM:
This is pretty sound advice.

I wouldn’t sell the sub. These things are too hot and seem to be getting more scarce. Hold the sub. That sets you up for a gold gmt. Now which one? A WG BLRO (black or blue dial) would compliment your collection nicely. Personally, I prefer the RG CHNR, it’s not as undercover as WG, more UC than YG.

I’d sell the YM, the Tudor, and maybe give the seiko away. This might make the watch gods smile favorably on you.
Oh yea, dump the OP too, you won’t have time to squeeze it in he rotation. Be careful, going PM is a slippery slope.
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I think this is a good idea. For me personally (and I appreciate not everyone may agree with this), the ideal number of watches in a collection is three or four. I would trade the ones you haven’t highlighted as keepers for a WG/YG Sub or a WG/YG GMT. I have suggested the Subs because you’d be replacing your 114060 or the GMTs because you currently don’t have one in your collection. A DD wouldn’t be a bad option either.
Really good advice and couldn’t agree more with the three to four watch collection.

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i would 100% do it and would go for a day date since its just a special watch. the yg sub is also nice but you already have (or if you trade it, had) a sub so maybe something to switch it up would be better
I have been really lusting after the WG with olive dual. I think it looks spectacular and doesn’t draw too much attention.

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I was just in a similar situation. Gone are 116710LN, 16610LV and 16613 Serti for the 116618LB and I honestly could not be happier. The SS are nice, but they never had the appeal that PM has. I honestly can’t wait to put on the PM and never had that feeling with the others.


Stunning Sub you have....you’re making a strong case for the YG


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Sick collection. I propose a couple routes:

1. Sport Route: Drop the Tudor, Sub, YM, & OP. Add 126719BLRO Meteorite Dial or 116618LN

2. Classy Route: Drop the Tudor, Sub, YM, & OP. Add DD Presidential

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Exact two routes I was thinking. Thanks!

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This is pretty sound advice.

I wouldn’t sell the sub. These things are too hot and seem to be getting more scarce. Hold the sub. That sets you up for a gold gmt. Now which one? A WG BLRO (black or blue dial) would compliment your collection nicely. Personally, I prefer the RG CHNR, it’s not as undercover as WG, more UC than YG.

I’d sell the YM, the Tudor, and maybe give the seiko away. This might make the watch gods smile favorably on you.
Oh yea, dump the OP too, you won’t have time to squeeze it in he rotation. Be careful, going PM is a slippery slope.
Best of luck
I do love the Sub but it doesn’t get as much wrist time as I’d like, hence why it was on the list. Good idea with gifting the Seiko! I’d need luck if I’m going to go ahead with this!
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Everyone should have at least 1 Rolex Full YG in their collection. Nothing like a full YG Rolex.
And the basic collection should also include 1 full Rolex white gold for balance.
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Kinda depends on what watch you're thinking about. And, TBH, if you're making the move to PM just to be going PM, then it's a mistake.

IMO, you've got to fall in love with a watch first and then figure out how you're going to fit it in to your collection second. Which will also help you figure out which watches to move. For instance, if you go with a gold sub, then you may want to get rid of your sub. YMMV.
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Kinda depends on what watch you're thinking about. And, TBH, if you're making the move to PM just to be going PM, then it's a mistake.

IMO, you've got to fall in love with a watch first and then figure out how you're going to fit it in to your collection second. Which will also help you figure out which watches to move. For instance, if you go with a gold sub, then you may want to get rid of your sub. YMMV.
Very well put! I’ll also take this advice
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I’ve done the same thing in the past and I do not regret it. It’s a very personal thing, but 3-5 is the right amount for my tastes. When i had more, some were just sitting, and I only wore them because I felt like I should. That said...I’m more of a wearer than a collector, and I happen to like PM in favor of SS, but I love SS as well, and have always had at least one in a collection, weather 3, 5, or 10. I’d say buy what you love to look at on your wrist if consolidating, whether it’s PM or SS. PM is spectacular for many reasons, IMO, and a slippery slope :)
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I’ve done the same thing in the past and I do not regret it. It’s a very personal thing, but 3-5 is the right amount for my tastes. When i had more, some were just sitting, and I only wore them because I felt like I should. That said...I’m more of a wearer than a collector, and I happen to like PM in favor of SS, but I love SS as well, and have always had at least one in a collection, weather 3, 5, or 10. I’d say buy what you love to look at on your wrist if consolidating, whether it’s PM or SS. PM is spectacular for many reasons, IMO, and a slippery slope :)
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That's exactly how I felt. I would open the watch box and think, I should wear the OP/Sub (etc) because it's been a hot minute. Not wearing out of love, more so wearing because they were there.

Thanks for the advice, Richard - always appreciated.
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Kinda depends on what watch you're thinking about. And, TBH, if you're making the move to PM just to be going PM, then it's a mistake.

IMO, you've got to fall in love with a watch first and then figure out how you're going to fit it in to your collection second. Which will also help you figure out which watches to move. For instance, if you go with a gold sub, then you may want to get rid of your sub. YMMV.
Great advice, Larry. More of the backstory was I always loved the PM pieces, especially the DD and the Sub but never thought (or justified to myself) that I could swing it. Every time I go to the AD to say hi, I always try on the PMs to appease my heart. But, I recently just got a promotion and thought this would be the time to trade some of the SS that I don't wear too often and go PM.

Once again, thanks for the response and things to think about in this decision.
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Great advice, Larry. More of the backstory was I always loved the PM pieces, especially the DD and the Sub but never thought (or justified to myself) that I could swing it. Every time I go to the AD to say hi, I always try on the PMs to appease my heart. But, I recently just got a promotion and thought this would be the time to trade some of the SS that I don't wear too often and go PM.

Once again, thanks for the response and things to think about in this decision.
Those are two great PM's. And, I'll daresay whichever one you end up with, you'll be pining for the other, so...it's only a matter of time.
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I agree with your keep list. Those are iconic in their own right.

TBH I'm not a fan of any of the others you have so I would trade them all for a YG 116618LB or a DD40 in YG and honestly you wearing a 116618LB or a DD40 is going to feel 1000x better and more special than any of the other pieces. Trust me on that. I've done exactly what your thinking now.

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In your collection if you are trading up I’d move to a YG sub

Sell the YM, OP, Tudor, sub
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Go for it Sir! Having too many watches sometimes clutters the mind of some people, including me. As mentioned in another thread, if we are honest to ourselves, we can only rotate so many.

For me, rotating more than 3 feels like a chore.

So probably 5 special watches is the ideal number to keep.
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The three with the * are the ones I would keep as well. Everything else up for grabs.
As for which PM? Entirely personal.
I prefer my divers in SS so I went with the GMT for PM.
Good luck with it!
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I agree with your keep list. Those are iconic in their own right.

TBH I'm not a fan of any of the others you have so I would trade them all for a YG 116618LB or a DD40 in YG and honestly you wearing a 116618LB or a DD40 is going to feel 1000x better and more special than any of the other pieces. Trust me on that. I've done exactly what your thinking now.

Qty doesn't give satisfaction. Quality and having what you really want will give you satisfaction.
Thanks for enabling guys! But seriosuly, I really appreciate the advice and knowing the three SS ones I had marked are the same you'd keep.
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I’ll be the outlier and say you should also asterisk the 114060. It only comes in SS (as it was intended) and is the best Submariner reference IMHO. If you add a PM Submariner date, the two can easily coexist.

That said, I’m excited to see what you decide
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If you keep the three with the asterisks, a WG Pepsi GMT would fit nicely in there. Either that or something yellow or red gold of your choice to really differentiate.
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I totally would OP. Particularly if you have watches in the stable that never get any wrist time.


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Yes they are a nice SS set, so go for a PM, probably a Sub to replace the SS one or a DD, try them all on and go with what feels right, great time ahead for you.

They were my first two PMs altho GMT is very nice too.

Very nice! Thanks for the advice, I am leaning more to the Sub...but the DD is classy.

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I’ll be the outlier and say you should also asterisk the 114060. It only comes in SS (as it was intended) and is the best Submariner reference IMHO. If you add a PM Submariner date, the two can easily coexist.

That said, I’m excited to see what you decide
Brian, I thought the same thing. I do not wear it as often as the others, which is why I felt like I could get rid of it if needed. But now I am not too sure...

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I think this is a good idea. For me personally (and I appreciate not everyone may agree with this), the ideal number of watches in a collection is three or four. I would trade the ones you haven’t highlighted as keepers for a WG/YG Sub or a WG/YG GMT. I have suggested the Subs because you’d be replacing your 114060 or the GMTs because you currently don’t have one in your collection. A DD wouldn’t be a bad option either.
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i would 100% do it and would go for a day date since its just a special watch. the yg sub is also nice but you already have (or if you trade it, had) a sub so maybe something to switch it up would be better
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I was just in a similar situation. Gone are 116710LN, 16610LV and 16613 Serti for the 116618LB and I honestly could not be happier. The SS are nice, but they never had the appeal that PM has. I honestly can’t wait to put on the PM and never had that feeling with the others.



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