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Old 6 September 2019, 12:02 AM   #1
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i just rang 8 seperate AD's

To get a feel for the market, 2 and a half years after buying my gmt, which was pretty hard to get at the time, but not impossible, after hearing people say that it is getting easier to source one,

The response was a resounding no to any chance whatsoever of an SS sports model,

Not, half a chance, or if you come immediately today, or its possible on monday, just an outright zero chance, one AD said its a hundred times worse than 2 and a half years ago.


So there it is. But you knew that anyway.
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Old 6 September 2019, 12:07 AM   #2
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i just rang 8 seperate AD's
To get a feel for the market

thats going to be a non starter even if they had something.

I agree its worse, especially in the UK, but you cant gauge anything on the phone
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Old 6 September 2019, 12:08 AM   #3
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thats going to be a non starter even if they had something.

I agree its worse, especially in the UK, but you cant gauge anything on the phone
so shall i visit all 8 and see what i can get


a couple had ym2, but none even had air-king
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Old 6 September 2019, 12:11 AM   #4
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so shall i visit all 8 and see what i can get
it would be better. All the AD's i use in london say no automatically on the phone for everything. even asking about a YM sitting in the case.
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Old 6 September 2019, 12:41 AM   #5
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so shall i visit all 8 and see what i can get


a couple had ym2, but none even had air-king
Go by public transport so at least you get some exercise and some good out of the trip.
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Old 6 September 2019, 12:12 AM   #6
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No, save your gas money and put it towards buying from a gray
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Old 6 September 2019, 12:15 AM   #7
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No, save your gas money and put it towards buying from a gray

i would rather buy a mickey mouse watch than buy from the grey market.
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Old 6 September 2019, 02:03 AM   #8
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i would rather buy a mickey mouse watch than buy from the grey market.
Re-think that if you can. Depending on what you are looking for, and if you shop carefully, you can go grey and do fine.

Takes a little patience but you'll be wearing the watch instead of bitching that you can't get it...

Some excellent grey dealers here...

Good luck, either way.

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Old 6 September 2019, 03:29 AM   #9
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Old 6 September 2019, 04:06 AM   #10
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Old 6 September 2019, 08:40 PM   #11
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lol at least it's not a Zenith!
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Old 6 September 2019, 12:32 AM   #12
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There are SS out there. I've had a Sub and AirKing from my AD after getting a 10% discount on a Rhodium Fluted Datejust in March of last year. I have also bought a Tudor Heritage Chrono and Speedmaster from them this year also. Have been promised a Hulk for next year. They tell me people phone them daily from London asking if they have anything as they think as they are not in London they may have stock. I only buy watches I want but it does take money to build a relationship with an AD now.
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Old 6 September 2019, 12:39 AM   #13
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To get a feel for the market, 2 and a half years after buying my gmt, which was pretty hard to get at the time, but not impossible, after hearing people say that it is getting easier to source one,

The response was a resounding no to any chance whatsoever of an SS sports model,

Not, half a chance, or if you come immediately today, or its possible on monday, just an outright zero chance, one AD said its a hundred times worse than 2 and a half years ago.


So there it is. But you knew that anyway.


Every time I walk into an AD to talk about watches they express their annoyance with the hundreds of calls they get everyday asking for SS models. So it’s no surprise you got shut down.


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Old 6 September 2019, 12:45 AM   #14
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Every time I walk into an AD to talk about watches they express their annoyance with the hundreds of calls they get everyday asking for SS models. So it’s no surprise you got shut down.


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imagine being that arrogant, that 'they express their annoyance' when hundreds of people ring them, wanting to buy their products,


they can stick their elusive products where the sun never shines.
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Old 6 September 2019, 01:21 AM   #15
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imagine being that arrogant, that 'they express their annoyance' when hundreds of people ring them, wanting to buy their products,





they can stick their elusive products where the sun never shines.


I don’t look at it as them being arrogant. I would be annoyed as well.


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Old 6 September 2019, 01:41 AM   #16
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imagine being that arrogant, that 'they express their annoyance' when hundreds of people ring them, wanting to buy their products,


they can stick their elusive products where the sun never shines.
Yep they’re getting cheesed off with dozens of calls a day.
Pick a local AD, get to know them and spend some £££$$$. There is no easy meal ticket..
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Old 6 September 2019, 01:54 AM   #17
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Yep they’re getting cheesed off with dozens of calls a day.
Pick a local AD, get to know them and spend some £££$$$. There is no easy meal ticket..

nah, i dont want to know them, i was just comparing with when i rang in 2017, just to see if it is any better, back then people had submariners if you wanted to get in the car on the day and do 200 miles, that was considered difficult, totally different to now.
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Old 6 September 2019, 01:56 AM   #18
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nah, i dont want to know them, i was just comparing with when i rang in 2017, just to see if it is any better, back then people had submariners if you wanted to get in the car on the day and do 200 miles, that was considered difficult, totally different to now.


Oh yeh totally different market now.
It’s a sellers market and they “select” the customer.


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As indicated above it doesn’t matter what you asked over the phone you were always going to get the same answer. Clearly in the current market going in person isn’t going to increase your chances enough that picking up an SS will be easy or even possible.

What is certain though is that if you enquire about “all SS” pieces, you will definitely be rebuffed. It will trigger the AD’s flipperdar.
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The phone will get you NOWHERE! Go to an AD in person, spend some $$$$. That is the only way you will sniff a steel sport model at retail in the current market.
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Old 6 September 2019, 01:10 AM   #21
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Yeah no chance on the phone m8
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Old 6 September 2019, 01:17 AM   #22
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I don’t understand why people call and think they are going to get a chance on anything.

All these threads beating the same topic into the ground.
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Now you know how poor old J R Hartley felt. Unfortunately "good old Yellow Pages" isn't going to help in this case.
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Now you know how poor old J R Hartley felt. Unfortunately "good old Yellow Pages" isn't going to help in this case.
yes but he should have kept a copy of his own book -
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To get a feel for the market, 2 and a half years after buying my gmt, which was pretty hard to get at the time, but not impossible, after hearing people say that it is getting easier to source one,

The response was a resounding no to any chance whatsoever of an SS sports model,

Not, half a chance, or if you come immediately today, or its possible on monday, just an outright zero chance, one AD said its a hundred times worse than 2 and a half years ago.


So there it is. But you knew that anyway.
They will have fobbed you off
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Old 6 September 2019, 02:05 AM   #27
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A phone conversation is very different to a face to face conversation.....put yourself in their position, what would you say to a stranger who just phoned up on the off chance when you have actual well known clients to look after...?
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It's all relationship... I just bought a Daytona from AD and Submariner within 2 week period (different ADs).
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It's all relationship... I just bought a Daytona from AD and Submariner within 2 week period (different ADs).
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To get a feel for the market, 2 and a half years after buying my gmt, which was pretty hard to get at the time, but not impossible, after hearing people say that it is getting easier to source one,

The response was a resounding no to any chance whatsoever of an SS sports model,

Not, half a chance, or if you come immediately today, or its possible on monday, just an outright zero chance, one AD said its a hundred times worse than 2 and a half years ago.


So there it is. But you knew that anyway.

I think most AD's just say that to get back to people who have cash in hand in the shoppes.

Its like calling every pizza place for a single customized slice --- and you're still asking for 5% off.
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