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AstroBoy · 3 March 2009, 07:54 AM

I say why not! I love everything in TT, why not on the watch I love! Rolex are you reading this? I'm getting my cash out for it .... Calling photoshop expert, can you whip some of your magic for this? By the mean time....I will keep on dreaming....

ayeya · 3 March 2009, 07:55 AM

i agree with you. i like TT a lot but it's just not the right fit for me.

DSJ · 3 March 2009, 08:51 AM

It just doesn't "fit" the "personality" of the Explorer series, IMO. Plus the gold bezel wouldn't last nearly as well as the SS one.

JCirillo · 3 March 2009, 09:09 AM

Interesting point, is the EXP is only sport watch series without a precious metal version? Was the thought that you can wear a solid gold sub diving, but not, well, whatever the Explorer I/II was meant for?

tifosi · 3 March 2009, 10:17 AM

I am not a fan of TT watches to begin with but I can't see the ExplorerII as a TT. I think it would be too conflicting with the style of the watch. IMO

txbikerdude · 3 March 2009, 11:47 AM

I like the explorer series in SS

Starwalker · 4 March 2009, 03:05 AM

TT, but only rose gold!

JJ Irani · 4 March 2009, 03:09 AM

Well, for starters, the Exp-II is the sports Rolex with possibly the poorest sale, especially the black dial which is not as popular as the white dial.

No offense meant here, just stating a few facts.

Now if that same watch is introduced in a steel/gold version, that would just about kill the sales. There are enough TT Sports Rolex models out there......so why would anyone want an Exp-II in that combo?

JJ

Otto · 4 March 2009, 08:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Well, for starters, the Exp-II is the sports Rolex with possibly the poorest sale, especially the black dial which is not as popular as the white dial.

No offense meant here, just stating a few facts.

Now if that same watch is introduced in a steel/gold version, that would just about kill the sales. There are enough TT Sports Rolex models out there......so why would anyone want an Exp-II in that combo?

JJ

JJ,

You said you are "just stating a few facts." On what do you base your statement that "the Exp-II is the sports Rolex with possibly the poorest sale, especially the black dial which is not as popular as the white dial?" Have you seen sales numbers of the Exp II, with a breakdown between white and black dial versions?

I see several Explorer IIs every time I go into Tokyo. Sure, I don't see nearly as many Explorer's IIs as SS Subs, which are just about everywhere as far as I can tell, but Japan is a HUGE Rolex market, and the Exp II appears to me based on purely personal observation to be quite popular. As for the white dial, again from purely personal non-scientific observation, I see it far less frequently than the black dial version.

Also, on this forum the Exp II is frequently characterized as a "stealth" watch, so, if true, wouldn't it be understandable that we would notice it less than the more easily recognizable and sometimes more "in your face" models; e.g., TT Subs, Pepsi GMTs, DDs, etc.?

As for a TT Exp II, it's difficult for me to imagine that based on the history of the watch.

BTW, I haven't yet had the pleasure of owning an Explorer II, but it's on my wish list!
Otto

AIKO · 4 March 2009, 09:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Otto

JJ,

You said you are "just stating a few facts." On what do you base your statement that "the Exp-II is the sports Rolex with possibly the poorest sale, especially the black dial which is not as popular as the white dial?" Have you seen sales numbers of the Exp II, with a breakdown between white and black dial versions?

I see several Explorer IIs every time I go into Tokyo. Sure, I don't see nearly as many Explorer's IIs as SS Subs, which are just about everywhere as far as I can tell, but Japan is a HUGE Rolex market, and the Exp II appears to me based on purely personal observation to be quite popular. As for the white dial, again from purely personal non-scientific observation, I see it far less frequently than the black dial version.

Also, on this forum the Exp II is frequently characterized as a "stealth" watch, so, if true, wouldn't it be understandable that we would notice it less than the more easily recognizable and sometimes more "in your face" models; e.g., TT Subs, Pepsi GMTs, DDs, etc.?

As for a TT Exp II, it's difficult for me to imagine that based on the history of the watch.

BTW, I haven't yet had the pleasure of owning an Explorer II, but it's on my wish list!
Otto

Good points. Not sure about the EXP II being a slower seller. However, based on the postings on this and other forums, I feel like I see 3-4 White exp ii for every black one. Just my gut.

Bebot · 4 March 2009, 09:35 AM

If rolex think that it will look good and there's market for it, they would have done it a long time ago.

aleeboy · 4 March 2009, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by AIKO

Good points. Not sure about the EXP II being a slower seller. However, based on the postings on this and other forums, I feel like I see 3-4 White exp ii for every black one. Just my gut.

In Asia, the colour white has some negative meaning attached to it, so you will rarely see the Exp II in white. The majority of Exp IIs sold in Asia are black. Very different from the US market.

I'm not too sure if I'd like the Exp II in TT. Would be great in all RG/YG though.

JJ Irani · 4 March 2009, 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Otto

JJ,

You said you are "just stating a few facts." On what do you base your statement that "the Exp-II is the sports Rolex with possibly the poorest sale, especially the black dial which is not as popular as the white dial?" Have you seen sales numbers of the Exp II, with a breakdown between white and black dial versions?

I see several Explorer IIs every time I go into Tokyo. Sure, I don't see nearly as many Explorer's IIs as SS Subs, which are just about everywhere as far as I can tell, but Japan is a HUGE Rolex market, and the Exp II appears to me based on purely personal observation to be quite popular. As for the white dial, again from purely personal non-scientific observation, I see it far less frequently than the black dial version.

Also, on this forum the Exp II is frequently characterized as a "stealth" watch, so, if true, wouldn't it be understandable that we would notice it less than the more easily recognizable and sometimes more "in your face" models; e.g., TT Subs, Pepsi GMTs, DDs, etc.?

As for a TT Exp II, it's difficult for me to imagine that based on the history of the watch.

BTW, I haven't yet had the pleasure of owning an Explorer II, but it's on my wish list!
Otto

Well, Otto.....the Exp-II maybe a hot seller in Japan.....but world-wide the sales are poor as compared with the other sports models.

Both my ADs here in Auckland have Exp-IIs from the D-series and they are still collecting dust on the shelves.

JJ

Z-Sub · 4 March 2009, 05:08 PM

like the Daytona, black dial is more popular in Asia.

Otto · 4 March 2009, 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Well, Otto.....the Exp-II maybe a hot seller in Japan.....but world-wide the sales are poor as compared with the other sports models.

Both my ADs here in Auckland have Exp-IIs from the D-series and they are still collecting dust on the shelves.

JJ

OK. I understand your experience with your two Auckland ADs; but where did you get the worldwide sales figures?

I'm just curious because I have always wondered how sales actually in fact break out between models.

Also, I think if you visited Japan you might understand why I think it is a substantial piece of the Rolex market.

pricojorge · 4 March 2009, 03:07 AM

I will try a photoshop tonight

Rebel · 4 March 2009, 10:31 AM

I'm not a fan of any of the TT sports models. Just my thoughts.

Lion · 4 March 2009, 02:56 PM

We are sure exploring the possibilities on this thread. I think the Explorer II would look nice with a platinum bezel and white dial!!!

3 March 2009, 07:54 AM	#1
AstroBoy "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Lucky Location: Ohio USA Watch: TT-Tona/EXII/Tudor Posts: 696	Explorer-II Two Tone! Why or Why Not? I say why not! I love everything in TT, why not on the watch I love! Rolex are you reading this? I'm getting my cash out for it .... Calling photoshop expert, can you whip some of your magic for this? By the mean time....I will keep on dreaming.... __________________ Astroboy "Life Is Not A Problem To Be Solved But A Reality To Be Experienced" "JJ - Your smile takes all my troubles away!"

3 March 2009, 08:51 AM	#3
DSJ "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2007 Real Name: David Location: USA Watch: your step! Posts: 7,882	It just doesn't "fit" the "personality" of the Explorer series, IMO. Plus the gold bezel wouldn't last nearly as well as the SS one. __________________ Rolex. The Rolex of watches. 16570 Expy2 Noir, 116710 GMT Master II, 2552.80 SMP

3 March 2009, 10:17 AM	#5
tifosi "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Russ Location: Southern NJ Posts: 5,760	I am not a fan of TT watches to begin with but I can't see the ExplorerII as a TT. I think it would be too conflicting with the style of the watch. IMO __________________ Russ

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4 March 2009, 03:09 AM	#8
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Well, for starters, the Exp-II is the sports Rolex with possibly the poorest sale, especially the black dial which is not as popular as the white dial. No offense meant here, just stating a few facts. Now if that same watch is introduced in a steel/gold version, that would just about kill the sales. There are enough TT Sports Rolex models out there......so why would anyone want an Exp-II in that combo? JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

3 March 2009, 07:55 AM	#2
ayeya Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Location: NYC Watch: Daytona "M" series Posts: 133	i agree with you. i like TT a lot but it's just not the right fit for me.

3 March 2009, 09:09 AM	#4
JCirillo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Real Name: John Cirillo Location: Manhattan Watch: Explorer II 216570 Posts: 119	Interesting point, is the EXP is only sport watch series without a precious metal version? Was the thought that you can wear a solid gold sub diving, but not, well, whatever the Explorer I/II was meant for?

3 March 2009, 11:47 AM	#6
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4 March 2009, 09:35 AM	#11
Bebot "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Emil Location: Bay Area, CA Watch: U macallit Posts: 2,645	If rolex think that it will look good and there's market for it, they would have done it a long time ago.

4 March 2009, 05:08 PM	#14
Z-Sub 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jun 2008 Location: So Cal, USA Watch: Not a ONEWatch Man Posts: 7,383	like the Daytona, black dial is more popular in Asia. __________________ SS Submariner Date "Z" SS SeaDweller "D" SS Submariner "Random" TT Blue Submariner "P" SS GMT-Master ll "M", Pepsi Pam 311, 524, 297

4 March 2009, 03:07 AM	#16
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4 March 2009, 10:31 AM	#17
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4 March 2009, 02:56 PM	#18
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	We are sure exploring the possibilities on this thread. I think the Explorer II would look nice with a platinum bezel and white dial!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

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