I'm curious what you guys think if they discontinue the SUB-C

[Glosstritium]

This is a fun question to see what people on here think...


1. Let's say Basel 2020 comes and Rolex releases a new 40mm Sub with a new movement, slightly slimmer lugs and discontinue the current model, will

A. Prices will shoot through the roof cause everybody wants a discontinued model and it will become a rarity with the only sub with the wider lugs and last of the classic movement...

Or

B. Prices will drop?


2. Rolex releases a new Sub but just an updated movement and leaves the lugs alone, will

A. Prices will go up since its the last classic movement that's been with us forever

Or

B. Prices will drop?


3. Rolex releases a 42mm Sub with slimmer lugs and new movement, will

A. They will discontinue the 40mm
B. They will keep the 40mm also
C. Hell yea I can't wait for the new 42mm

4. Rolex releases a 36mm submariner together with the 42mm, will

A. Discontinue the 40mm
B. Keep all three in the sub line
C. No way they will release a 36mm

[schoolboy]

1b

The 6 digit ceramic sub won’t go down as a highly collectible rare item whose price will increase significantly

Every one has a black 6 digit sub.

2b

The new movement might be with us forever too

3

I think Rolex is too traditional to release a 43mm sub. Tudor might do that, but I don’t think Rolex will.

4

I don’t think Rolex would go as small as 36mm for a sub. 40mm seems to be the sweet spot.

[RootBeerGMT]

The 40mm is iconic and is what has made the Sub what it is and has been for the last 50+ years... NOT gonna change size.
If they change the movement; Who cares. Look how many times the movement has changed in the past. Prices will continue to hold or slightly increase in all their models.
Either way.... Mine are not for sale. 5513 stays in the safe; 116610LN stays on my wrist.
Wear em with pride folks.....

[djgallo]

If they change the sub’s movement they will increase the size to 42mm

[sillo]

Originally Posted by djgallo

If they change the sub’s movement they will increase the size to 42mm

When they inevitably change the movement to the 3235 it will still be 40mm. We have the 43mm SD for those who want a bigger Sub.

[locutus49]

So bigger watches are back in style already?

Originally Posted by djgallo

If they change the sub’s movement they will increase the size to 42mm

[DLRIDES]

Originally Posted by djgallo

If they change the sub’s movement they will increase the size to 42mm

I sure hope so !

42mm, slimmer/tapered lugs, and 22mm lug width would be perfection !

[dtwer]

Originally Posted by DLRIDES

I sure hope so !

42mm, slimmer/tapered lugs, and 22mm lug width would be perfection !

I would love this combination very much too.

[djyolky]

Originally Posted by RootBeerGMT

The 40mm is iconic and is what has made the Sub what it is and has been for the last 50+ years... NOT gonna change size.

If they change the movement; Who cares. Look how many times the movement has changed in the past. Prices will continue to hold or slightly increase in all their models.

Either way.... Mine are not for sale. 5513 stays in the safe; 116610LN stays on my wrist.

Wear em with pride folks.....

So it should stay in a safe, or you should wear them with pride? Your response confused me.

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[RootBeerGMT]

Originally Posted by djyolky

So it should stay in a safe, or you should wear them with pride? Your response confused me.

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Grandpa's watch stays in the safe..... My new one on my wrist....
If that confuses you, Go wear a Casio.

[djyolky]

Originally Posted by RootBeerGMT

Grandpa's watch stays in the safe..... My new one on my wrist....

If that confuses you, Go wear a Casio.

Why would I wear a Casio?

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[Oxfordian]

My AD was reasonably certain that the Sub date would get the 3235 movement, they believe that the sub is overdue an upgrade so expect it to happen.

If this happens then waiting lists will lengthen considerably as Rolex gets production ramped up, this in my AD's estimation will cause secondhand Sub prices to rise a fair bit for a while as people try and cash in on the lack of new watches in the system (there are some who believe that there are no new Sub's in existence anyway as they never see one in dealers).

Other than a movement change my AD didn't believe that there would be any other changes albeit they wondered if Rolex would continue with both Black and Green watches or whether only the black would be produced initially.

As for the ND Sub they were unsure what would happen to that watch as there are other watches that use the same movement and they hadn't heard of those watches being updated, so that may continue and get revamped in 2021.

All pure guesswork as no one really knows.

[Seibei]

"1. Let's say Basel 2020 comes and Rolex releases a new 40mm Sub with a new movement, slightly slimmer lugs and discontinue the current model, will

A. Prices will shoot through the roof cause everybody wants a discontinued model and it will become a rarity with the only sub with the wider lugs and last of the classic movement...
Or
B. Prices will drop?"

Prices will shoot up since many people, me included like the current maxi case.


"2. Rolex releases a new Sub but just an updated movement and leaves the lugs alone, will

A. Prices will go up since its the last classic movement that's been with us forever
Or
B. Prices will drop?"

Neutral. I don't think Rolex buyers care much about the movement version or some hours give and take of power reserve. I don't think that many Rolex owners even know what model number their watch is.


3. Rolex releases a 42mm Sub with slimmer lugs and new movement, will

A. They will discontinue the 40mm
B. They will keep the 40mm also
C. Hell yea I can't wait for the new 42mm

Very unlikely. Rolex already makes a 43mm sub like watch so would would be the point of a 42mm version?

"4. Rolex releases a 36mm submariner together with the 42mm, will

A. Discontinue the 40mm
B. Keep all three in the sub line
C. No way they will release a 36mm"

C

[othertbone]

There are millions of modern sub's out there.

They will not shoot up in value after any changes.

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by othertbone

There are millions of modern sub's out there.

They will not shoot up in value after any changes.

X2 its THE most common Rolex Professional model. They will never be rare or a collectors model. Prices will still not go below msrp for a long time. These are watches to wear in life.

[time_and_cars]

Originally Posted by Mystro

X2 its THE most common Rolex Professional model. They will never be rare or a collectors model. Prices will still not go below msrp for a long time. These are watches to wear in life.

Let's talk about the Sub c aka Hulk... Price around $14k

[Brny11]

Originally Posted by othertbone

There are millions of modern sub's out there.

They will not shoot up in value after any changes.

They are also the most popular. Talking to a few ADs, they say Sub might not be craziest watch on 2nd hand market from price perspective but still one of most asked about from walk in customers, with crazy wait lists. So though I agree there are millions, supply and demand still balances out, hence the 30-40% increase since 2016 (when I spent $7100 on a 116610ln). I think it will likely spike up a grand or 2k once discontinued for 126610 maybe a bit more).

[mobster600]

You never know....depends how well taken the new Sub looks. What if people don’t like the new one....like the Jubilee GMT. What if the Sub comes on a Jubilee LOL. You never really know

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by mobster600

You never know....depends how well taken the new Sub looks. What if people don’t like the new one....like the Jubilee GMT. What if the Sub comes on a Jubilee LOL. You never really know

Really?? Many of us love it.

If that happens then the new Sub will be another +$16K new model.
Remember the average newbie Rolex owner is generally scared of anything new so like the LVc (Hulk) no one wanted it until the enthusiast gave it the nod and it became “cool” over night. Rolex never ever plans to release a watch that is going backwards in evolution. This is what Rolex does best.

[Auto16610]

"What if people don’t like the new one....like the Jubilee GMT."

Originally Posted by Mystro

Really?? Many of us love it.

If that happens then the new Sub will be another +$16K new model.
Remember the average newbie Rolex owner is generally scared of anything new so like the LVc (Hulk) no one wanted it until the enthusiast gave it the nod and it became “cool” over night. Rolex never ever plans to release a watch that is going backwards in evolution. This is what Rolex does best.

Since nobody likes the new GMT on jubilee can I have yours please?

[peterpl]

LOL

Why would it matter? As someone above said there are literally millions of sub-c's. It is the MOST common sports Rolex in the entire world.

Prices will drop for the older ones. I personally would want the newer movement, 70+ hr pr and the other enhancements.

[Divingdeep87]

Like every other rolex I think they will increase little by little just like the regular 5 digit models and now the 6 digit. Nothing crazy but they will increase over time no mather what. My own 114060 has increased almost 35% since i got it in 2015.

If a New models comes it will maybe stand still or decrease, but after some time when no one can get the new model they will increase again. But it will never highly collectible, because of it’s mass production.

[jimcameron]

Why would they spend money significantly "updating" a huge winner that they can't manufacture fast enough to keep up with current demand?

[Mystro]

Originally Posted by jimcameron

Why would they spend money significantly "updating" a huge winner that they can't manufacture fast enough to keep up with current demand?

It’s “The Rolex way”.

[Jona]

I'm happy with my 114060. Sooner or later they will change it, new case or movement etc. If I wait for the newest model I'll never buy anything.

[Bybybmw]

As a newbie, I hope for decreased prices, or at least stable prices, no matter what happens to the SubC

[landroverking]

A new 40 mm Sub with slimmer lugs would cause the current Sub to be a footnote in Rolex history.

[Easy E]

Originally Posted by landroverking

A new 40 mm Sub with slimmer lugs would cause the current Sub to be a footnote in Rolex history.

I think outside of this forum no one cares.

[Onikage]

Originally Posted by landroverking

A new 40 mm Sub with slimmer lugs would cause the current Sub to be a footnote in Rolex history.

I tend to agree with this. It would precipitate a mass sell-off. The on-the-fencers, who like the bracelet will have all the confirmation they need that the rest of the watch is in fact not very appealing, and a maxicase bloodbath would surely ensue.

[sillo]

Originally Posted by Onikage

I tend to agree with this. It would precipitate a mass sell-off. The on-the-fencers, who like the bracelet will have all the confirmation they need that the rest of the watch is in fact not very appealing, and a maxicase bloodbath would surely ensue.

This is Rolex we're talking about though. Somebody will start calling them by some nickname like fatboy or something and it'll end up with a cult following and continue to rise like every other sport watch.