Flu Shot

[THC]

Got mine today, as I do every year... how many TRF peeps get flu shots?

Also interested to see if this is just a USA thing or do other countries offer these.

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[McLovin]

Got mine last week. Don’t have time for the flu.

[ejvette]

My wife is a Nurse and works with a lot of Drs she doesn't get the shot and I never have. The Drs that work in hospitals get it because the facility requires it the private practice Drs she knows none of them get the shot.

[pickettt]

Directly from the package insert of the vaccine.....“There have been no controlled trials adequately demonstrating a decrease in influenza disease after vaccination”

[JoseR]

Originally Posted by pickettt

Directly from the package insert of the vaccine.....“There have been no controlled trials adequately demonstrating a decrease in influenza disease after vaccination”

Better safe than sorry... Get mine every year in September.

[Plastique999]

Originally Posted by jrubero

Better safe than sorry... Get mine every year in September.

Exactly


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[mmutte]

Originally Posted by pickettt

Directly from the package insert of the vaccine.....“There have been no controlled trials adequately demonstrating a decrease in influenza disease after vaccination”

Interesting. Do you have the reference?

[SemperFi]

Got mine a few weeks ago...the extra strength one.

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by mmutte

Interesting. Do you have the reference?

https://www.henryschein.com/us-en/im...K_FluLaval.pdf

Sorry, I thought I'd sent this over already.

[Gravity]

Originally Posted by pickettt

Directly from the package insert of the vaccine.....“There have been no controlled trials adequately demonstrating a decrease in influenza disease after vaccination”

Used to get the flu every year like clockwork in late October to early November. Started getting flu shots in 1998 and haven't had the flu since.

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by Gravity

Used to get the flu every year like clockwork in late October to early November. Started getting flu shots in 1998 and haven't had the flu since.

I’m glad to hear you’ve been flu free for a good number of years. I wish everyone good health. Personally, I’ve never had a flu shot nor the flu.

[Plastique999]

Originally Posted by ejvette

My wife is a Nurse and works with a lot of Drs she doesn't get the shot and I never have. The Drs that work in hospitals get it because the facility requires it the private practice Drs she knows none of them get the shot.

I do and so do all my nurses and staff...if not, they are to wear masks for 3 months. It’s a huge problem when one doesn’t get the flu shot and then gets sick, then my whole staff gets sick....has happened before.


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[tadbart]

Originally Posted by Plastique999

I do and so do all my nurses and staff...if not, they are to wear masks for 3 months. It’s a huge problem when one doesn’t get the flu shot and then gets sick, then my whole staff gets sick....has happened before.


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your whole staff who got the vaccination...?

[77T]

Originally Posted by tadbart

your whole staff who got the vaccination...?

I thought the same thing. But the conflation made me do a 2-step...with many branches of chance included.

The un-immunized staffer may have contracted a flu strain that was resistant, recombinant or never targeted in the vax that year. Then the immunized staff may have contracted that strain of the flu...

Because...

If the un-immunized staffer had contracted a flu strain that the vax protected against, then the staff shouldn’t have been susceptible.

Or...

Any of the staff may have contracted an unprotected strain, been asymptomatic but became a carrier, and then passed it on to the rest of the staff.

It’s all too “iffy” to apply cause and effect in an office setting.

I believe we sometimes conflate from our past experience and then believe what we want to believe.


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[GoingPlaces]

Every year.

[herts9]

Got mine about a month ago. Rarely sick, but why chance it?

[DJ TT 2002]

30 straight years now. I’m in the business.

I won’t get into the discussion of should you or shouldn’t you

But I have watched patients die from Influenza despite using every intervention that modern medicine provides. Tragic !

All unvaccinated

[Flyinghunter]

Originally Posted by DJ TT 2002

30 straight years now. I’m in the business.

I won’t get into the discussion of should you or shouldn’t you

But I have watched patients die from Influenza despite using every intervention that modern medicine provides. Tragic !

All unvaccinated

I concur and I'm in the business as well and I always take the flu shot. I recommend it to patients and respect their right for freedom of choice (Sub Date vs. Sub ND) however it is an incumbent responsibility to ensure patients are educated regarding up to date evidence based research allowing them to make an informed choice. Most people do not appreciate the sheer number of people (including in the US) that die from Influenza.

Fact:

CDC estimates that the burden of illness during the 2017–2018 season was also high with an estimated 48.8 million people getting sick with influenza, 22.7 million people going to a health care provider, 959,000 hospitalizations, and 79,400 deaths from influenza.

[Bigblu10]

Originally Posted by DJ TT 2002

30 straight years now. I’m in the business.

I won’t get into the discussion of should you or shouldn’t you

But I have watched patients die from Influenza despite using every intervention that modern medicine provides. Tragic !

All unvaccinated

People die from all sorts of things even when every intervention is used. When it is YOUR time to go, you will go. I believe the flu shot is a big $$ making sham. Heck every year you hear the same thing in the news that "they" did not hit on the correct strain of flu and the shot is basically useless. My wife used to get one every year, and she would literally be SICK for a month after. Sometimes sick enough she had to seek treatment from a doctor. She finally said no more! This happened every time. I am stubborn and set in my ways and have NEVER had a flu shot in my 53 years on Earth. Was at Disney in Florida in 2013 and got sick down there. Literally had no energy to walk through the parks. Got home and seen my doctor and he did a flu test. Tested positive, by then had already rode out the worst part and was getting better. It really wasn't that bad except for the lack of energy. I have had a case of pneumonia/bronchitis which was much much worse than that flu. I will take my chances and choose to cheat death. Practice good handwashing hygiene and stay away from sick folks, keep your house humidified in the cold winter months and you will be good.

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by DJ TT 2002

30 straight years now. I’m in the business.

I won’t get into the discussion of should you or shouldn’t you

But I have watched patients die from Influenza despite using every intervention that modern medicine provides. Tragic !

All unvaccinated

The flu almost killed me one year. I had the flu shot that year. Helped zero.

I haven’t had the shot since.

The vaccine is a shot in the dark at what might, maybe, could be a strain that will be a problem. As a patient, best guess isn’t my idea of good medicine.

[THC]

Originally Posted by Abdullah71601

The flu almost killed me one year. I had the flu shot that year. Helped zero.

I haven’t had the shot since.

The vaccine is a shot in the dark at what might, maybe, could be a strain that will be a problem. As a patient, best guess isn’t my idea of good medicine.

Hi Abdullah, how many years ago was your shot? Every year is different

[pickettt]

Originally Posted by THC

Hi Abdullah, how many years ago was your shot? Every year is different

I think that further reinforces his point.

[THC]

Originally Posted by pickettt

I think that further reinforces his point.

I think it also reinforces mine too.. strains and vaccines change annually, so why not, as typically the shots are free

[Abdullah71601]

Originally Posted by THC

Hi Abdullah, how many years ago was your shot? Every year is different

20 years. Haven't had the flu since.

Making the vaccine is a guess every year. There is no good way to predict what strains will prevail at the time they need to start manufacturing the vaccine.

I’m not saying it’s a scam. It makes people feel like they are being proactive. But it will be a minor miracle if it actually helps you.

[crew]

Originally Posted by DJ TT 2002

30 straight years now. I’m in the business.

I won’t get into the discussion of should you or shouldn’t you

But I have watched patients die from Influenza despite using every intervention that modern medicine provides. Tragic !

All unvaccinated

I never got one until about 7 years ago. My GF/partner asked me to get it done “for her”. Her motivation? She lost her 9 year old daughter to influenza about 12 years ago. There is no way to know if her daughter would have survived had she been given the shot. Also, neither of us knows if we are getting added protection for ourselves when we get it each year. However, barring any evidence to the contrary, it can’t hurt, so why not.

[BisonHead]

Originally Posted by crew

I never got one until about 7 years ago. My GF/partner asked me to get it done “for her”. Her motivation? She lost her 9 year old daughter to influenza about 12 years ago. There is no way to know if her daughter would have survived had she been given the shot. Also, neither of us knows if we are getting added protection for ourselves when we get it each year. However, barring any evidence to the contrary, it can’t hurt, so why not.

Wow, very sad that.

[Sunny Arizona]

Originally Posted by DJ TT 2002

30 straight years now. I’m in the business.

I won’t get into the discussion of should you or shouldn’t you

But I have watched patients die from Influenza despite using every intervention that modern medicine provides. Tragic !

All unvaccinated

A few years ago we had an ICU full of patients on ECHMO due to the flu.

[Dubshack]

Started before my first kids were born, now every year for about 7 years.


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[Pw92676]

Every year. I do for a work requirement but would do so even if it wasn’t.

[RichM]

I got mine 3 weeks ago as well as the pneumonia shot.