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JonnyH83 · 11 December 2019, 08:05 PM

Hi all,

As above, I know we see these sorts of questions on here often so I apologise in advance....just need to come back down to reality.

An 'opportunity' has been presented to me whereby I can get a SS Daytona C (new and unworn) in exchange for my SS Sub date + H.Moser & Cie white gold Venturer + a cash sum of circa £5,000.

My initial thoughts were absolutely not that's not a good deal at all...however I have started to get itchy fingers and cant work out if I'm crazy for even entertaining the idea.

Thoughts...?

Sandpit · 11 December 2019, 08:20 PM

I don’t know what the Moser is worth but this sounds like a terrible deal to me. The sub must be worth £8k, plus your £5k cash. So £13k without the Moser. This must be close to putting the cost of the Daytona at £23k+??

Andad · 11 December 2019, 08:27 PM

Could just be a classic case of FOMO Jonny.

I would take a giant step back and evaluate.

bonatto · 11 December 2019, 08:33 PM

Step back, run.

ec00421 · 11 December 2019, 08:44 PM

If you really want the daytona, pull the trigger. Also remember, when you do a trade, dealers have to make money on the stock(s) that they take in.

Ian Macdermott · 11 December 2019, 09:02 PM

Run to the nearest A and E department and have your head examined.

faimag · 11 December 2019, 09:16 PM

I don't think this deal is anywhere close to being reasonable for you in terms of $$ but if you don't wear the Sub + Moser and have 5K lying around and just love the 500C, who am I to argue against it?!

enjoythemusic · 11 December 2019, 10:40 PM

Ummm, no imho.

JonnyH83 · 13 December 2019, 05:44 PM

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I don’t know what the Moser is worth but this sounds like a terrible deal to me. The sub must be worth £8k, plus your £5k cash. So £13k without the Moser. This must be close to putting the cost of the Daytona at £23k+??

Yes looking at the typical big watch buyers in the UK and looking at trade-in value/cash purchase value it works out as £19k or there abouts. Just reading this back confirms my insanity for even considering this...!

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Could just be a classic case of FOMO Jonny.

I would take a giant step back and evaluate.

Yes I absolutely think it was that and only that. And I am hugely glad that I saw sense and didn't end up going ahead with it!

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Run to the nearest A and E department and have your head examined.

Haha - luckily it didn't get to that stage. Had I of pulled the trigger on the deal I dare say that I would have been writing this from A&E.

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I don't think this deal is anywhere close to being reasonable for you in terms of $$ but if you don't wear the Sub + Moser and have 5K lying around and just love the 500C, who am I to argue against it?!

That's the insane thing - I do wear both regularly and love them. As previous have stated - this was just a moment of madness....or a temporary mid-life crisis perhaps! ;)

Anyhow, thank you for all your comments. Helpful as always.

Regards,
Jonny

colpol · 13 December 2019, 07:13 PM

No chance you could just buy the Daytona without doing the trade ins ??

Verdi · 13 December 2019, 07:28 PM

Who is trying to scam you?!

Chester01 · 13 December 2019, 09:06 PM

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Originally Posted by JonnyH83

Hi all,

As above, I know we see these sorts of questions on here often so I apologise in advance....just need to come back down to reality.

An 'opportunity' has been presented to me whereby I can get a SS Daytona C (new and unworn) in exchange for my SS Sub date + H.Moser & Cie white gold Venturer + a cash sum of circa £5,000.

My initial thoughts were absolutely not that's not a good deal at all...however I have started to get itchy fingers and cant work out if I'm crazy for even entertaining the idea.

Thoughts...?

Well why do you want the Daytona? I always go to function first. Do you need a date? Do you care if the watch is legible? Do you care that you are paying far over MSRP to get a watch? Consider these first and then consider it. I have had two daytonas an speak from experience, the Daytona is about the most overhyped watch and in my opinion overrated in my 30+ years of collecting.

judson · 13 December 2019, 11:00 PM

No way. That is a ripoff.

ap1 · 13 December 2019, 11:04 PM

The moser is the question mark, small mkt for those although great manufacturer. My view is the heart wants what it wants. Maybe 2-3k? Just to make myself feel a little better.

GradyPhilpott · 13 December 2019, 11:12 PM

Don't do it.

Hollie_Rollie · 13 December 2019, 11:13 PM

Never.

Nikrnic · 14 December 2019, 01:40 AM

No Wayyyy....

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tbk · 14 December 2019, 01:52 AM

I would absolutely not do this. The Daytona is nice, but not that nice. I'd never pay much over MSRP for one.

broham84 · 14 December 2019, 02:26 AM

I'm not a fan of H.Moser, so for me I'd have no issues with unloading.

m j b · 14 December 2019, 02:42 AM

I'd want to know what the cash price of the Daytona is to properly evaluate the offer.

Rado63 · 14 December 2019, 03:53 AM

Didn't really get enough information to value this. If a new Daytona on the secondary market is $23K US or £17.3K then you are adding £5K with a balance of one sub and one H moser. What do you feel your sub the H. moser are worth? Sounds like this deal could be undervaluing your trade ins. Go back and ask for increased value on the trade ins, and lower on the cash, and maybe you can get there. Also take the position of the re seller, a moser venturer is an expensive piece , but I don't know how long it would take to sell such a piece, so you pay for that by getting less in trade.

mfm22 · 14 December 2019, 06:51 AM

If you look at MSRP [ I know Daytona is not to be had ... but ..] it's a ridiculous deal
Factor in the " Crazy" factoid then anything is possible

you have 2 great watches & 5000 in pocket - I'd pass for sure .. Daytona is the Current craze , very nice for sure & worth waiting for ...
From an AD - And by the time they become available you may not be interested any longer

Seibei · 14 December 2019, 07:16 AM

Don't walk, run away from this. Sounds like they are scamming you AND asking you to pay 5000 pounds for the privilege. Shocking. What is so special about the SS Daytona anyway?

11 December 2019, 08:05 PM	#1
JonnyH83 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Location: United Kingdom Posts: 53	Pointless question for you re: part ex Hi all, As above, I know we see these sorts of questions on here often so I apologise in advance....just need to come back down to reality. An 'opportunity' has been presented to me whereby I can get a SS Daytona C (new and unworn) in exchange for my SS Sub date + H.Moser & Cie white gold Venturer + a cash sum of circa £5,000. My initial thoughts were absolutely not that's not a good deal at all...however I have started to get itchy fingers and cant work out if I'm crazy for even entertaining the idea. Thoughts...?

11 December 2019, 08:27 PM	#3
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,533	Could just be a classic case of FOMO Jonny. I would take a giant step back and evaluate. __________________ E

11 December 2019, 09:02 PM	#6
Ian Macdermott "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Willy.B.Banned Location: Sheol Watch: ing the detectives Posts: 2,721	Run to the nearest A and E department and have your head examined. __________________ Welax no one other than wobblers muggers and sad WIS types notices your Wolex. The rest of the populace are way too busy staring at their shiny new iPhone 24s or worrying about paying the gas bill..

11 December 2019, 10:40 PM	#8
enjoythemusic 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Real Name: Steven Location: Glocal Posts: 21,194	Ummm, no imho. __________________ __________________ ----> Was Great Seeing Everyone At The TRF December 9 Tampa Meetup <---- https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=968133 Love timepieces and want to become a Watchmaker? Rolex has a sensational school. www.RolexWatchmakingTrainingCenter.com/ Sent from my Etch A Sketch using String Theory.

13 December 2019, 07:28 PM	#11
Verdi "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Real Name: Mitch Location: UAE Watch: Big Ben Posts: 2,451	Who is trying to scam you?! __________________ IG: @watch_idiot_savant

11 December 2019, 08:20 PM	#2
Sandpit "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Middle East Posts: 1,808	I don’t know what the Moser is worth but this sounds like a terrible deal to me. The sub must be worth £8k, plus your £5k cash. So £13k without the Moser. This must be close to putting the cost of the Daytona at £23k+??

11 December 2019, 08:33 PM	#4
bonatto "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: UK/EU Posts: 222	Step back, run.

11 December 2019, 08:44 PM	#5
ec00421 Banned Join Date: Apr 2013 Location: NY Posts: 513	If you really want the daytona, pull the trigger. Also remember, when you do a trade, dealers have to make money on the stock(s) that they take in.

11 December 2019, 09:16 PM	#7
faimag "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: US, SG, DK, GR Watch: Reverso Posts: 3,089	I don't think this deal is anywhere close to being reasonable for you in terms of $$ but if you don't wear the Sub + Moser and have 5K lying around and just love the 500C, who am I to argue against it?!

13 December 2019, 07:13 PM	#10
colpol "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2010 Location: Scotland Posts: 2,895	No chance you could just buy the Daytona without doing the trade ins ??

13 December 2019, 11:00 PM	#13
judson "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: USA Watch: changes depending Posts: 800	No way. That is a ripoff.

13 December 2019, 11:04 PM	#14
ap1 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: usa Posts: 19,537	The moser is the question mark, small mkt for those although great manufacturer. My view is the heart wants what it wants. Maybe 2-3k? Just to make myself feel a little better.

13 December 2019, 11:12 PM	#15
GradyPhilpott 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Location: New Mexico Watch: Seiko #SRK047 Posts: 34,460	Don't do it. __________________ JJ Inaugural TRF $50 Watch Challenge Winner

13 December 2019, 11:13 PM	#16
Hollie_Rollie 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: U.S.A. Watch: SD43 Posts: 3,353	Never.

14 December 2019, 01:40 AM	#17
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,172	No Wayyyy.... Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

14 December 2019, 01:52 AM	#18
tbk "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Location: Austin, TX Posts: 284	I would absolutely not do this. The Daytona is nice, but not that nice. I'd never pay much over MSRP for one.

14 December 2019, 02:26 AM	#19
broham84 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2014 Location: New Jersey Posts: 610	I'm not a fan of H.Moser, so for me I'd have no issues with unloading.

14 December 2019, 02:42 AM	#20
m j b "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2011 Real Name: Michael Location: RTP, NC, USA Watch: ♕& Ω Posts: 5,221	I'd want to know what the cash price of the Daytona is to properly evaluate the offer. __________________ Enjoy life - it has an expiration date. Disclaimer: Please note that the avatar is not an accurate representation of how I look. The camera adds 10 pounds...

14 December 2019, 03:53 AM	#21
Rado63 "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Alan Location: Northern, CA Watch: 116334 Posts: 2,215	Didn't really get enough information to value this. If a new Daytona on the secondary market is $23K US or £17.3K then you are adding £5K with a balance of one sub and one H moser. What do you feel your sub the H. moser are worth? Sounds like this deal could be undervaluing your trade ins. Go back and ask for increased value on the trade ins, and lower on the cash, and maybe you can get there. Also take the position of the re seller, a moser venturer is an expensive piece , but I don't know how long it would take to sell such a piece, so you pay for that by getting less in trade. __________________ Rolex 116334 126600 228235

14 December 2019, 06:51 AM	#22
mfm22 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Real Name: Mike Location: NY Watch: Explorer 1 Posts: 488	If you look at MSRP [ I know Daytona is not to be had ... but ..] it's a ridiculous deal Factor in the " Crazy" factoid then anything is possible you have 2 great watches & 5000 in pocket - I'd pass for sure .. Daytona is the Current craze , very nice for sure & worth waiting for ... From an AD - And by the time they become available you may not be interested any longer

14 December 2019, 07:16 AM	#23
Seibei Banned Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: New Zealand Watch: 114060 Posts: 2,630	Don't walk, run away from this. Sounds like they are scamming you AND asking you to pay 5000 pounds for the privilege. Shocking. What is so special about the SS Daytona anyway?

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