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marc2828 · 20 January 2020, 12:01 AM

Hello,
I have always wanted an AP Offshore. Looking at the 44mm Chronograph series. I would like a lightweight daily nice watch on a rubber strap. I find my manual wind Panerai and my SD43 not that comfortable to sleep/shower etc. I wear my Casio Protrek most of the time (solar, nuclear time set, light weight). The Casio is a great watch, but a bit beat up.

My questions for the forum:
1) what is the weight diff of the 44mm case in steel vs titanium vs carbon vs ceramic? I tried on a 44mm forged carbon fiber 26400AU.OO.A002CA.01. Felt awesome and light.
2) Any advantage/disadvantage of forged carbon fiber vs Titanium vs Ceramic cases in the AP 44mm line?
3) I am not loving the new wide pushers on the AP Chronos vs the older buttons like on the 26207IO.OO.A002CA.01 Sebastien Buemi model. Thoughts?
4) Thoughts on buying a limited production piece vs a non?

thanks in advance for your advice,
Marc

maciej · 20 January 2020, 12:33 AM

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Originally Posted by marc2828

Hello,
I have always wanted an AP Offshore. Looking at the 44mm Chronograph series. I would like a lightweight daily nice watch on a rubber strap. I find my manual wind Panerai and my SD43 not that comfortable to sleep/shower etc. I wear my Casio Protrek most of the time (solar, nuclear time set, light weight). The Casio is a great watch, but a bit beat up.

My questions for the forum:
1) what is the weight diff of the 44mm case in steel vs titanium vs carbon vs ceramic? I tried on a 44mm forged carbon fiber 26400AU.OO.A002CA.01. Felt awesome and light.
2) Any advantage/disadvantage of forged carbon fiber vs Titanium vs Ceramic cases in the AP 44mm line?
3) I am not loving the new wide pushers on the AP Chronos vs the older buttons like on the 26207IO.OO.A002CA.01 Sebastien Buemi model. Thoughts?
4) Thoughts on buying a limited production piece vs a non?

thanks in advance for your advice,
Marc

For question number one, I recommend just going on AP's website to look up the weight specifically; but in terms of order it'd be carbon, ceramic, titanium, and steel, although I'd say that the difference is going to be negligible between carbon, ceramic, and titanium.

For number two, the titanium will be most likely to scratch, the forged carbon would be the second but in reality it's unlikely as the case is pretty resilient, and ceramic won't scratch at all.

For number three, it's a matter of preference, personally I like the rectangular pushers more than the buttons.

Last one is a matter of personal preference.

marc2828 · 20 January 2020, 12:45 AM

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Originally Posted by maciej

For question number one, I recommend just going on AP's website to look up the weight specifically; but in terms of order it'd be carbon, ceramic, titanium, and steel, although I'd say that the difference is going to be negligible between carbon, ceramic, and titanium.

For number two, the titanium will be most likely to scratch, the forged carbon would be the second but in reality it's unlikely as the case is pretty resilient, and ceramic won't scratch at all.

For number three, it's a matter of preference, personally I like the rectangular pushers more than the buttons.

Last one is a matter of personal preference.

thank you. I looked on the website under specs and they do not list weight.
https://www.audemarspiguet.com/en/wa....OO.A004CA.01/

Apflorio1 · 20 January 2020, 12:47 AM

I recently tried on the forged carbon as well as the titanium and there was no discernible difference.

I prefer some heft so I opted for the gold model. The case design of the 44 is such that the weight is evenly disbursed across the span of your wrist.

For what it’s worth with regard to the pushers the design of the 44mm was what actually drew me to AP.

Good luck there are no wrong choices.

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marc2828 · 20 January 2020, 01:22 AM

If someone could give me the weight on the Ceramic case and Titanium case on the 44mm that would be great. The forged carbon I was told is about 120grams. I think a watch under 125grams is ideal for sleeping/comfort daily wear. Just my opinion.

GB-man · 20 January 2020, 02:03 AM

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Originally Posted by marc2828

If someone could give me the weight on the Ceramic case and Titanium case on the 44mm that would be great. The forged carbon I was told is about 120grams. I think a watch under 125grams is ideal for sleeping/comfort daily wear. Just my opinion.

149g for ceramic. Ti will be very close. IIRC within a few grams.

GS93108 · 20 January 2020, 02:09 AM

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149g for ceramic. Ti will be very close. IIRC within a few grams.

That's quite interesting, my steel is 188g. That's actually a big weight saving.

ufboy73 · 20 January 2020, 03:37 AM

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Originally Posted by GS93108

That's quite interesting, my steel is 188g. That's actually a big weight saving.

Well, ceramic, carbon, Ti are all pretty much a weight class unto themselves, then steel, then gold, then Pt

marc2828 · 20 January 2020, 02:16 AM

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Originally Posted by GB-man

149g for ceramic. Ti will be very close. IIRC within a few grams.

Thank you. So i guess the forged carbon is the lightest by quite a lot if you like the look. Some say it looks a little like a Casio G Schock. Hmmmmm

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rolexgiants · 20 January 2020, 05:56 AM

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Originally Posted by marc2828

If someone could give me the weight on the Ceramic case and Titanium case on the 44mm that would be great. The forged carbon I was told is about 120grams. I think a watch under 125grams is ideal for sleeping/comfort daily wear. Just my opinion.

I was told....

Forged carbon- 119

Titanium- 150

Ceramic- 149

But who knows. LOL

Dmnyc · 20 January 2020, 02:24 AM

I heard ceramic doesn’t scratch at all either... what, in your opinion, is the best looking ceramic AP for daily wear?

GB-man · 20 January 2020, 04:31 AM

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I heard ceramic doesn’t scratch at all either... what, in your opinion, is the best looking ceramic AP for daily wear?

openwork perpetual calendar hands down

Dmnyc · 20 January 2020, 05:29 AM

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openwork perpetual calendar hands down

I wonder how long I’m gonna have to wait or how much I’m gonna drop for that bad boy

marc2828 · 20 January 2020, 04:08 AM

ok video.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ74GvbJTpM

marc2828 · 20 January 2020, 05:59 AM

Thank you!!!

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watchucallit · 20 January 2020, 06:42 AM

Marc
Which do you prefer in terms of look and style.. ? I generally like titanium more than any other metal. I own watches in all the metals and carbon and ceramic but if a choice I like titanium.. Relatively light and just generally prefer the look.

marc2828 · 20 January 2020, 08:01 AM

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Marc
Which do you prefer in terms of look and style.. ? I generally like titanium more than any other metal. I own watches in all the metals and carbon and ceramic but if a choice I like titanium.. Relatively light and just generally prefer the look.

I do like the Titanium look as well. This is the one I was eyeing.

https://www.chrono24.com/audemarspig...id13166562.htm

DanD.1 · 20 January 2020, 09:31 AM

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I do like the Titanium look as well. This is the one I was eyeing.

https://www.chrono24.com/audemarspig...id13166562.htm

If you like this one, I saw one for a better price in the classifieds section

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=719794

marc2828 · 20 January 2020, 09:35 AM

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If you like this one, I saw one for a better price in the classifieds section

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=719794

thank you. looking now.

Kilometerman · 20 January 2020, 10:06 AM

I have the 26405CE, and I really like it. It’s big obviously, but it’s pretty light, so it’s very comfortable to wear frequently or even daily. I’ve had for a year, and it looks brand new - the ceramic is really nice in that regard, you don’t have to worry about scratching it up.

I noticed the Panerai you posted as well. I also have the 1616 which is the 47mm submersible in carbotech. It’s very similar in that it’s large but super, super light. I really love this watch.

I just weighed them, and the AP came in at 147g, and the Panerai was only 111g.

marc2828 · 22 January 2020, 05:42 AM

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Originally Posted by DanD.1

If you like this one, I saw one for a better price in the classifieds section

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=719794

just found out this 42mm Titanium case watch weighs 131grams. Nice watch.

AK797 · 20 January 2020, 06:42 AM

So the trade off is the FC might be lighter but is more open to wear and tear, seen a few examples of damage over the years, the CE will be more durable, esp if you plan to sleep with it on and you are a mover.

GB-man · 20 January 2020, 07:00 AM

26405CG best of both worlds

marc2828 · 20 January 2020, 08:02 AM

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26405CG best of both worlds

Love that one as well. How much does it weigh and is it comfortable for extended wear? I feel bad buying expensive watches that sit in the safe.

10XRolex · 20 January 2020, 08:20 AM

I think you would be better off to take a drive to your local dealer to get all of your questions answered. More so when it comes to sizing, wear and fit.

marc2828 · 20 January 2020, 08:30 AM

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Originally Posted by 10XRolex

I think you would be better off to take a drive to your local dealer to get all of your questions answered. More so when it comes to sizing, wear and fit.

I walked down 47th street in NYC. Very little AP inventory. I tried this one on and reallly liked it. Thank you everyone for your valuable input. Appreciate it.

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GS93108 · 20 January 2020, 08:36 AM

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Originally Posted by marc2828

I walked down 47th street in NYC. Very little AP inventory. I tried this one on and reallly liked it. Thank you everyone for your valuable input. Appreciate it.

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You bought it? I hope so, nice.

marc2828 · 20 January 2020, 08:46 AM

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You bought it? I hope so, nice.

Nope...just started hunting. Literally, the first AP i ever held in my hand. Really nice under the radar watch. I feel like only watch enthusiasts know AP

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GS93108 · 20 January 2020, 08:50 AM

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Originally Posted by marc2828

Nope...just started hunting. Literally, the first AP i ever held in my hand. Really nice under the radar watch. I feel like only watch enthusiasts know AP

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It would be a great first AP and great last AP. I love the all black stealth look.

glamorama · 23 January 2020, 07:42 AM

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Originally Posted by marc2828

Nope...just started hunting. Literally, the first AP i ever held in my hand. Really nice under the radar watch. I feel like only watch enthusiasts know AP

Really? Every kid knows AP from the music videos or something

20 January 2020, 12:01 AM	#1
marc2828 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Marc Location: NJ Watch: AP,LV,SD43,PAMs Posts: 747	AP Novice - Carbon vs Ceramic vs Titanium Hello, I have always wanted an AP Offshore. Looking at the 44mm Chronograph series. I would like a lightweight daily nice watch on a rubber strap. I find my manual wind Panerai and my SD43 not that comfortable to sleep/shower etc. I wear my Casio Protrek most of the time (solar, nuclear time set, light weight). The Casio is a great watch, but a bit beat up. My questions for the forum: 1) what is the weight diff of the 44mm case in steel vs titanium vs carbon vs ceramic? I tried on a 44mm forged carbon fiber 26400AU.OO.A002CA.01. Felt awesome and light. 2) Any advantage/disadvantage of forged carbon fiber vs Titanium vs Ceramic cases in the AP 44mm line? 3) I am not loving the new wide pushers on the AP Chronos vs the older buttons like on the 26207IO.OO.A002CA.01 Sebastien Buemi model. Thoughts? 4) Thoughts on buying a limited production piece vs a non? thanks in advance for your advice, Marc

20 January 2020, 07:00 AM	#23
GB-man 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2012 Location: USA Watch: addiction issues Posts: 37,355	26405CG best of both worlds __________________

20 January 2020, 12:47 AM	#4
Apflorio1 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Long Island Posts: 216	I recently tried on the forged carbon as well as the titanium and there was no discernible difference. I prefer some heft so I opted for the gold model. The case design of the 44 is such that the weight is evenly disbursed across the span of your wrist. For what it’s worth with regard to the pushers the design of the 44mm was what actually drew me to AP. Good luck there are no wrong choices. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

20 January 2020, 01:22 AM	#5
marc2828 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Marc Location: NJ Watch: AP,LV,SD43,PAMs Posts: 747	If someone could give me the weight on the Ceramic case and Titanium case on the 44mm that would be great. The forged carbon I was told is about 120grams. I think a watch under 125grams is ideal for sleeping/comfort daily wear. Just my opinion.

20 January 2020, 02:24 AM	#11
Dmnyc "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2019 Location: New york Posts: 32	I heard ceramic doesn’t scratch at all either... what, in your opinion, is the best looking ceramic AP for daily wear?

20 January 2020, 04:08 AM	#14
marc2828 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Marc Location: NJ Watch: AP,LV,SD43,PAMs Posts: 747	ok video. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IZ74GvbJTpM

20 January 2020, 05:59 AM	#15
marc2828 "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Real Name: Marc Location: NJ Watch: AP,LV,SD43,PAMs Posts: 747	Thank you!!! Sent from my SM-G960U using Tapatalk

20 January 2020, 06:42 AM	#16
watchucallit "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: San Fran Posts: 2,218	Marc Which do you prefer in terms of look and style.. ? I generally like titanium more than any other metal. I own watches in all the metals and carbon and ceramic but if a choice I like titanium.. Relatively light and just generally prefer the look.

20 January 2020, 10:06 AM	#20
Kilometerman "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Location: Land of the free Posts: 121	I have the 26405CE, and I really like it. It’s big obviously, but it’s pretty light, so it’s very comfortable to wear frequently or even daily. I’ve had for a year, and it looks brand new - the ceramic is really nice in that regard, you don’t have to worry about scratching it up. I noticed the Panerai you posted as well. I also have the 1616 which is the 47mm submersible in carbotech. It’s very similar in that it’s large but super, super light. I really love this watch. I just weighed them, and the AP came in at 147g, and the Panerai was only 111g.

20 January 2020, 06:42 AM	#22
AK797 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2010 Real Name: Neil Location: UK Watch: ing ships roll in Posts: 59,369	So the trade off is the FC might be lighter but is more open to wear and tear, seen a few examples of damage over the years, the CE will be more durable, esp if you plan to sleep with it on and you are a mover.

20 January 2020, 08:20 AM	#25
10XRolex 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: New Jersey, USA Posts: 1,593	I think you would be better off to take a drive to your local dealer to get all of your questions answered. More so when it comes to sizing, wear and fit.

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