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BillA · 21 January 2020, 08:59 AM

As the title says, may have been scammed. Fortunately, not a lot of money, $58.
Ordered a Timegrapher 1000 from this Chinese Co.
Showing on the USPS website, using the China Post tracking number, that the package was accepted on 1/18. I wonder if accepted means the same thing as in the US.
After I placed the order, I read reviews, said big scam site, offers prices too good to be true, and they are.
Not totally sure I have been scammed, but the price seems now too low.
Anyone ever deal with these guys?

offrdmania · 21 January 2020, 09:40 AM

Tacking wont work on the US Mail site until it reaches our shores. Put the tracking in the China post site and see what it says.

BillA · 21 January 2020, 09:52 AM

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Originally Posted by offrdmania

Tacking wont work on the US Mail site until it reaches our shores. Put the tracking in the China post site and see what it says.

China Post says “accepted”

SunTzu · 21 January 2020, 01:13 PM

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Originally Posted by BillA

China Post says “accepted”

Accepted most likely means the Chinese PO has the package. I order all the time from obscure countries where tracking updates stop for 2 weeks and all of a sudden it’s on my doorstep. You should have seen the package I got from Pakistan last week. I was sure Homeland Security would pay me a visit

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cjcarter134 · 21 January 2020, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by SunTzu

Accepted most likely means the Chinese PO has the package. I order all the time from obscure countries where tracking updates stop for 2 weeks and all of a sudden it’s on my doorstep. You should have seen the package I got from Pakistan last week. I was sure Homeland Security would pay me a visit

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+1. I don't buy that many items from outside the continental USA. However, I did buy a watch from someone in Australia. I checked the tracking site every day. I remember checking it one day and the tracking site updated mentioning that the package was at customs. The next day the package was at my home. I was thinking it would be another 4 or 5 days before it would arrive. I was pleasantly surprised when I received it.

77T · 21 January 2020, 10:53 AM

I have not dealt with them.

Unfortunately...

You won’t know whether you’re being scammed until it arrives or doesn’t. And if it does that the box has the actual item you purchased.

That’s several days away...

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Patton250 · 21 January 2020, 11:01 AM

Chinese factories are shut down for the next month I believe. I ordered one of those Rolex clocks over Christmas holiday and I loved it so much I went to order another one but the guy told me they won’t even be able to ship it until next month because everything is shut down.

GLADIATOR · 21 January 2020, 12:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Patton250

Chinese factories are shut down for the next month I believe. I ordered one of those Rolex clocks over Christmas holiday and I loved it so much I went to order another one but the guy told me they won’t even be able to ship it until next month because everything is shut down.

Correct
Timegrapher will come!
I ordered many of them from China - never an issue - just takes time.
STAY CALM
A

Old Expat Beast · 21 January 2020, 01:37 PM

When a package from overseas to the USA gets held up, the place it's most likely to be is US Customs, if it's going through JFK. I send quite a few watches to the US, 99% of which get routed through JFK. The time that these are listed as "Inbound into Customs" prior to being listed as "Released from Customs" can be anything from one day to two weeks. Usually about a week. These are also pre-registered online with US Customs (as is the law now) and sent by Express Mail. None has ever even been opened, as far as I know. LAX and Chicago never a problem....an hour or two's delay at most.

BillA · 21 January 2020, 08:06 PM

The problem is that a few days after I bought I googled the website and lots of scammer reviews plus I paid a very low price.
So ok, will wait and see what happens.
I used PayPal to pay so may have protection.

fskywalker · 21 January 2020, 09:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillA

The problem is that a few days after I bought I googled the website and lots of scammer reviews plus I paid a very low price.
So ok, will wait and see what happens.
I used PayPal to pay so may have protection.

Let is know what happens!

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BillA · 22 January 2020, 04:47 AM

Intermediate update: China post tracking is now showing the package has left China. It took about 4 days from acceptance to departing China for this to happen.

BillA · 23 January 2020, 02:08 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BillA

Intermediate update: China post tracking is now showing the package has left China. It took about 4 days from acceptance to departing China for this to happen.

Not correct, package has not left China.
Ordered on 1/16, 1/22 still in China.
I emailed the seller 3 times, no response. Paypal will have to do same, should get same response.
I opened a dispute with Paypal.
Will see why happens.

antrolexsub · 23 January 2020, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by BillA

Not correct, package has not left China.
Ordered on 1/16, 1/22 still in China.
I emailed the seller 3 times, no response. Paypal will have to do same, should get same response.
I opened a dispute with Paypal.
Will see why happens.

As somebody already mentioned it’s Chinese New Year, 95% of China is shut down at the moment. I think you’ve been a bit impatient.

BillA · 23 January 2020, 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by antrolexsub

As somebody already mentioned it’s Chinese New Year, 95% of China is shut down at the moment. I think you’ve been a bit impatient.

Thank you for assessment.

walds11 · 23 January 2020, 09:23 AM

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Originally Posted by BillA

Thank you for assessment.

You’ve got movement, so looking good so far.

Jim Smyth · 24 January 2020, 11:57 PM

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Originally Posted by antrolexsub

As somebody already mentioned it’s Chinese New Year, 95% of China is shut down at the moment. I think you’ve been a bit impatient.

Right, starting a thread 2 days after a order on a $58 dollar item? Someone needs a few cocktails.

BillA · 25 January 2020, 12:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Jim Smyth

Right, starting a thread 2 days after a order on a $58 dollar item? Someone needs a few cocktails.

Nope, started thread 6 days after order
Almost no shipping info.
Known scammer on the internet.
3 emails have gone unanswered.
Paypal has also been unsuccessful communicating with seller

Glad you have the facts and gave a good opinion. Keep up the good work.

usling15 · 23 January 2020, 11:20 AM

Items from China can take many days. Packages disappear for days, then suddenly traceable. If it was a scam they probably wouldn’t have accepted PayPal.

BillA · 23 January 2020, 11:44 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by usling15

Items from China can take many days. Packages disappear for days, then suddenly traceable. If it was a scam they probably wouldn’t have accepted PayPal.

Good point

red1108nyc · 24 January 2020, 11:53 AM

This may have some impact (potentially).

https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...ate-stop-virus

BillA · 24 January 2020, 01:36 PM

Thanks for the info
If that is the case, terrible situation and my $59 means nothing!

watchdisplay · 6 February 2020, 07:56 PM

Why dispute the transaction until it’s at your door? Shipping from China can take several weeks. The. Add the Chinese New Year and a viral outbreak and you may have to add some more time.

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Old Expat Beast · 6 February 2020, 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by watchdisplay

Why dispute the transaction until it’s at your door? Shipping from China can take several weeks. The. Add the Chinese New Year and a viral outbreak and you may have to add some more time.

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Looks like he received it last week and didn't bother updating here?

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=721042

Jim Smyth · 6 February 2020, 10:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Looks like he received it last week and didn't bother updating here?

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=721042

I think he bought a second one from Amazon or thats the way I read into it. Would be good to hear if he got the first one which I think he will in time.

BillA · 6 February 2020, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Old Expat Beast

Looks like he received it last week and didn't bother updating here?

https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=721042

Please re-read the my post, I bought another one. The one from China will never arrive.

Andad · 6 February 2020, 09:07 PM

And is still not happy.

BillA · 6 February 2020, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by directioneng

And is still not happy.

Please re-read the post that Old Pat Beast posted on this thread.....I bought another one from Amazon, still no shipment from China on original unit.

UPDATE: Last entry into the China Post mail system: “Origin post is preparing shipment. We have received notice that original post is preparing to dispatch mail piece”. This was posted on 1/27/20. Today is 2/6/20.
I ordered unit on 1/16/20. I will never see the unit that is why I bought another one. Opened dispute with Paypal, waiting to hear from them. I blame myself for the problem, the unit was too cheap to be true. I know better!

Jim Smyth · 6 February 2020, 10:56 PM

Well at least you will be made whole via Paypal.

BillA · 10 February 2020, 09:46 PM

Update:
amazingly the package has arrived in the US! Expected delivery to me is this Thursday the 13th. Will wait to see what is in the package, still in shock it really shipped! Will update post when package received.

21 January 2020, 08:59 AM	#1
BillA 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,870	May have been scammed, “kukhi.com” As the title says, may have been scammed. Fortunately, not a lot of money, $58. Ordered a Timegrapher 1000 from this Chinese Co. Showing on the USPS website, using the China Post tracking number, that the package was accepted on 1/18. I wonder if accepted means the same thing as in the US. After I placed the order, I read reviews, said big scam site, offers prices too good to be true, and they are. Not totally sure I have been scammed, but the price seems now too low. Anyone ever deal with these guys?

21 January 2020, 09:40 AM	#2
offrdmania 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2008 Real Name: Matt Location: Wine Country, Ca Posts: 5,996	Tacking wont work on the US Mail site until it reaches our shores. Put the tracking in the China post site and see what it says. __________________ TRF Member 11738

21 January 2020, 10:53 AM	#6
77T 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: PaulG Location: Georgia Posts: 41,959	May have been scammed, “kukhi.com” I have not dealt with them. Unfortunately... You won’t know whether you’re being scammed until it arrives or doesn’t. And if it does that the box has the actual item you purchased. That’s several days away... Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Does anyone really know what time it is?

21 January 2020, 11:01 AM	#7
Patton250 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Oct 2015 Real Name: Brett Location: Florida Watch: 5205R Posts: 5,160	Chinese factories are shut down for the next month I believe. I ordered one of those Rolex clocks over Christmas holiday and I loved it so much I went to order another one but the guy told me they won’t even be able to ship it until next month because everything is shut down. __________________ Morality does not derive from consensus. It only comes from one place. Pride goes before destruction, and haughtiness before a fall. Often times unbelief is disguised as wisdom Instagram - patton250

21 January 2020, 01:37 PM	#9
Old Expat Beast TRF Moderator & 2024 SubLV41 Patron Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Adam Location: Far East Watch: Golden Tuna Posts: 28,804	When a package from overseas to the USA gets held up, the place it's most likely to be is US Customs, if it's going through JFK. I send quite a few watches to the US, 99% of which get routed through JFK. The time that these are listed as "Inbound into Customs" prior to being listed as "Released from Customs" can be anything from one day to two weeks. Usually about a week. These are also pre-registered online with US Customs (as is the law now) and sent by Express Mail. None has ever even been opened, as far as I know. LAX and Chicago never a problem....an hour or two's delay at most. __________________ _______________________

21 January 2020, 08:06 PM	#10
BillA 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,870	The problem is that a few days after I bought I googled the website and lots of scammer reviews plus I paid a very low price. So ok, will wait and see what happens. I used PayPal to pay so may have protection.

22 January 2020, 04:47 AM	#12
BillA 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,870	Intermediate update: China post tracking is now showing the package has left China. It took about 4 days from acceptance to departing China for this to happen.

23 January 2020, 11:20 AM	#19
usling15 "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: Virginia Posts: 253	Items from China can take many days. Packages disappear for days, then suddenly traceable. If it was a scam they probably wouldn’t have accepted PayPal.

24 January 2020, 11:53 AM	#21
red1108nyc 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2011 Real Name: Fred Location: NYC/NJ Metro Area Watch: Rolex Posts: 8,512	This may have some impact (potentially). https://www.zerohedge.com/geopolitic...ate-stop-virus

24 January 2020, 01:36 PM	#22
BillA 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,870	Thanks for the info If that is the case, terrible situation and my $59 means nothing!

6 February 2020, 07:56 PM	#23
watchdisplay "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Location: Florida Posts: 210	Why dispute the transaction until it’s at your door? Shipping from China can take several weeks. The. Add the Chinese New Year and a viral outbreak and you may have to add some more time. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

6 February 2020, 09:07 PM	#27
Andad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2006 Real Name: Eddie Location: Australia Watch: A few. Posts: 37,510	And is still not happy. __________________ E

6 February 2020, 10:56 PM	#29
Jim Smyth Banned Join Date: Nov 2013 Real Name: Jim Smyth Location: Florida Watch: DD Posts: 1,842	Well at least you will be made whole via Paypal.

10 February 2020, 09:46 PM	#30
BillA 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2007 Location: US Posts: 3,870	Update: amazingly the package has arrived in the US! Expected delivery to me is this Thursday the 13th. Will wait to see what is in the package, still in shock it really shipped! Will update post when package received.

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