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MLS · 25 January 2020, 06:41 AM

Please advise!

Is it normal for 2013 ( date on the card) 16570 to miss chamfers on the lugs. Has it been over-polished.

Thank you!

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037 · 25 January 2020, 06:43 AM

That's been polished.

Verdi · 25 January 2020, 09:27 PM

sorry, double!

Verdi · 25 January 2020, 09:27 PM

that watch looks very good!

DoxaDavid · 25 January 2020, 06:51 AM

Yes, over polished.

Gary Anderson · 25 January 2020, 08:51 AM

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Originally Posted by DoxaDavid

Yes, over polished.

In what way is that watch 'over' polished?

DoxaDavid · 26 January 2020, 01:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Gary Anderson

In what way is that watch 'over' polished?

It looked like one of the lugs was thinner indicating over polishing to “grind out” some deep scratch but after reviewing all the pics again, it could just be the angle of the pic which gave me that impression.

It’s not as bad as I thought and take back my initial comment.

aurenas · 26 January 2020, 02:14 AM

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Originally Posted by DoxaDavid

Yes, over polished.

Over Polished??????????

PS. Mine look like this

MLS · 25 January 2020, 07:19 AM

Thank you! And some more pictures

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RCrusoe · 25 January 2020, 09:34 AM

How can you tell it's been "over polished"? I've handled a fair number of Rolex watches and, unless blatantly obvious, I find it very difficult to tell.

CDNWatchNut · 25 January 2020, 10:04 AM

maybe lightly polished but not over polished in my opinion.

LChanyungco · 25 January 2020, 10:06 AM

polished but seems ok.

padi56 · 25 January 2020, 10:05 PM

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Originally Posted by CDNWatchNut

maybe lightly polished but not over polished in my opinion.

Have to agree many on forum lately could not tell a over polished watch from there elbow.

HogwldFLTR · 25 January 2020, 11:31 PM

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Originally Posted by padi56

Have to agree many on forum lately could not tell a over polished watch from there elbow.

Peter, I'd go further to say there is a percentage here who will always give a extremely negative review to sound authoritative. In general in doing so they do the exact opposite and only show their ignorance. Personally I think it's a nice looking example, fwiw.

Thuilln · 26 January 2020, 02:26 AM

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Originally Posted by HogwldFLTR

Peter, I'd go further to say there is a percentage here who will always give a extremely negative review to sound authoritative. In general in doing so they do the exact opposite and only show their ignorance. Personally I think it's a nice looking example, fwiw.

I agree with this. OP, ignore comments and just enjoy the watch! It looks really good.

watchmavan · 25 January 2020, 10:34 AM

This is my 2000 Polar. I believe it has had a light polish but you can still identify the chamfer on the outer edge.

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MLS · 25 January 2020, 06:50 PM

Thank you, all! I was not sure if I should be worried about it and return the watch.

My older 16570 (2005) has the chamfers. As this one is 2013 and has many of the details of the 6 digit ones I decided that it is normal but then I was looking at the lugs and they seemed thinner ( not sure if it is true or it is just me)

My old one

And ads I found of unpolished v series 16570

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Manu77 · 25 January 2020, 09:24 PM

I think that post 2007 has no chanfers, Any expert in the room??

037 · 26 January 2020, 02:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Manu77

I think that post 2007 has no chanfers, Any expert in the room??

All 16570 cases had chamfers. Mild or not, they've always been the same.

FWIW, I only mentioned that it was polished, which it was. I'm not going down the rabbit hole of "over" or not. That's up to the buyer. It's a nice watch.

Crazy Lugs · 26 January 2020, 07:54 AM

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Originally Posted by 037

All 16570 cases had chamfers. Mild or not, they've always been the same.

FWIW, I only mentioned that it was polished, which it was. I'm not going down the rabbit hole of "over" or not. That's up to the buyer. It's a nice watch.

This is incorrect, IMHO. Check out photos of a stickered NOS no-holes 16570. No real chamfers to speak of, which is typical of no-holes five digit ‘T’ cases.

037 · 27 January 2020, 04:00 AM

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Originally Posted by Crazy Lugs

This is incorrect, IMHO. Check out photos of a stickered NOS no-holes 16570. No real chamfers to speak of, which is typical of no-holes five digit ‘T’ cases.

Photos? I've seen them in person. They've all had chamfers. That's said from experience. They're mild but they're there.

faimag · 25 January 2020, 10:00 PM

The chamfers were prominent and rather wide in the 5-digit cases with drilled lug holes (and a bit more pronounced in this order: Sub > GMT > Explorer). All no-holes cases have very little chamfering (not easily noticeable, and depends on the angle).

Your 2013 is polished (sharpness of the 2 o'clock lug seems softer than the 22 o'clock lug in the first picture) but it's not bad at all.

MLS · 25 January 2020, 10:33 PM

Thank you, all!

I am still thinking do I keep it or not.

All 4 lugs.

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Bladeshot · 26 January 2020, 12:04 AM

I’d wear it. Even if it had never been polished before, you will likely polish it at some point. Unless you plan to wear it 30 years with no polish, at some point, you would have removed the champhers with a polish.

When you are ready, someone like Rolliworks can easily reapply the champhers. I have seen countless examples of their work.

At my stage in the hobby, I am less concerned with things like this.

Dr.Brian · 26 January 2020, 12:23 AM

I think it looks great and it’s definitely not over polished from what I can see. On another thread people said some watch was over polished because the right lug was thinner than the left. Ahhh, ok. That’s how it left the factory chief.
You can always have some chamfering added. It would be easy for a skilled repair tech.

sillo · 26 January 2020, 12:41 AM

Looks great to me and if it was refinished it was done well.

By the end of production the chamfers were basically non existent. They become less and less pronounced as production went on. They're very obvious on the earlier 5 digits.

Manu77 · 26 January 2020, 01:16 AM

I thiks it is a great one!! Go on!!

fsprow · 26 January 2020, 01:31 AM

I strongly suggest that anyone that wonders whether a watch has been “overpolished”, take it to a qualified watchmaker, rather than asking random people on this site.

Many of us have no real knowledge of the subject and variations among the year of production and camera angle can make a big difference.

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envuks · 26 January 2020, 02:03 AM

I certainly wouldn’t call this watch over polished at all. Sure it’s been polished, but not overly so. I think LAWW could easily add them back if it really bothered you

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Likestheshiny · 26 January 2020, 02:29 AM

That model never had pronounced chamfers. I suspect the people saying it's overpolished are comparing it to the wrong watches. Looks fine to me.

25 January 2020, 06:41 AM	#1
MLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: London Watch: JLC or Rolex Posts: 27	16570 V-Series no lug chamfers Please advise! Is it normal for 2013 ( date on the card) 16570 to miss chamfers on the lugs. Has it been over-polished. Thank you! Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

25 January 2020, 09:27 PM	#3
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25 January 2020, 09:27 PM	#4
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25 January 2020, 06:51 AM	#5
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26 January 2020, 12:04 AM	#24
Bladeshot 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2015 Real Name: Grant Location: U.S. Watch: GMT 1675 PCG Gilt Posts: 5,850	I’d wear it. Even if it had never been polished before, you will likely polish it at some point. Unless you plan to wear it 30 years with no polish, at some point, you would have removed the champhers with a polish. When you are ready, someone like Rolliworks can easily reapply the champhers. I have seen countless examples of their work. At my stage in the hobby, I am less concerned with things like this. __________________ Just another WIS who loves to trade...

25 January 2020, 06:43 AM	#2
037 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: USA Posts: 6,173	That's been polished.

25 January 2020, 07:19 AM	#9
MLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: London Watch: JLC or Rolex Posts: 27	Thank you! And some more pictures Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

25 January 2020, 09:34 AM	#10
RCrusoe "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2017 Location: N/A Posts: 92	How can you tell it's been "over polished"? I've handled a fair number of Rolex watches and, unless blatantly obvious, I find it very difficult to tell.

25 January 2020, 10:04 AM	#11
CDNWatchNut "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Real Name: Juan Location: Sherwood Park, Ab Watch: 114060 Posts: 1,509	maybe lightly polished but not over polished in my opinion.

25 January 2020, 10:06 AM	#12
LChanyungco "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Location: EU Posts: 84	polished but seems ok.

25 January 2020, 10:34 AM	#16
watchmavan Member Join Date: Oct 2016 Real Name: Michael Location: Melbourne, Aust Watch: Polar 16570 Posts: 1,185	This is my 2000 Polar. I believe it has had a light polish but you can still identify the chamfer on the outer edge. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro

25 January 2020, 06:50 PM	#17
MLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: London Watch: JLC or Rolex Posts: 27	Thank you, all! I was not sure if I should be worried about it and return the watch. My older 16570 (2005) has the chamfers. As this one is 2013 and has many of the details of the 6 digit ones I decided that it is normal but then I was looking at the lugs and they seemed thinner ( not sure if it is true or it is just me) My old one And ads I found of unpolished v series 16570 Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

25 January 2020, 09:24 PM	#18
Manu77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Spain Posts: 133	I think that post 2007 has no chanfers, Any expert in the room??

25 January 2020, 10:00 PM	#22
faimag "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2016 Location: US, SG, DK, GR Watch: Reverso Posts: 3,089	The chamfers were prominent and rather wide in the 5-digit cases with drilled lug holes (and a bit more pronounced in this order: Sub > GMT > Explorer). All no-holes cases have very little chamfering (not easily noticeable, and depends on the angle). Your 2013 is polished (sharpness of the 2 o'clock lug seems softer than the 22 o'clock lug in the first picture) but it's not bad at all.

25 January 2020, 10:33 PM	#23
MLS "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Location: London Watch: JLC or Rolex Posts: 27	Thank you, all! I am still thinking do I keep it or not. All 4 lugs. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

26 January 2020, 12:23 AM	#25
Dr.Brian 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2009 Real Name: Brian Location: CA dreamin' Watch: ing the market. Posts: 5,906	I think it looks great and it’s definitely not over polished from what I can see. On another thread people said some watch was over polished because the right lug was thinner than the left. Ahhh, ok. That’s how it left the factory chief. You can always have some chamfering added. It would be easy for a skilled repair tech. __________________ -Brian AUDENTES FORTUNA IUVAT 十人十色

26 January 2020, 12:41 AM	#26
sillo "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2015 Real Name: Sean Location: NY Watch: 5 Digit Posts: 2,840	Looks great to me and if it was refinished it was done well. By the end of production the chamfers were basically non existent. They become less and less pronounced as production went on. They're very obvious on the earlier 5 digits. __________________ 14060 \| 16570 \| 16600 \| 16700 \| 16800 \| 79260 @TheGMTHand

26 January 2020, 01:16 AM	#27
Manu77 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2017 Location: Spain Posts: 133	I thiks it is a great one!! Go on!!

26 January 2020, 01:31 AM	#28
fsprow 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Dec 2018 Real Name: Frank Location: Dallas,NY,Colo. Watch: Patek 5168, 5170P Posts: 2,548	I strongly suggest that anyone that wonders whether a watch has been “overpolished”, take it to a qualified watchmaker, rather than asking random people on this site. Many of us have no real knowledge of the subject and variations among the year of production and camera angle can make a big difference. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

26 January 2020, 02:03 AM	#29
envuks 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2009 Location: New England Posts: 3,741	I certainly wouldn’t call this watch over polished at all. Sure it’s been polished, but not overly so. I think LAWW could easily add them back if it really bothered you Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ Current watches: 116718ln, 116500 black dial, 40mm Breitling Chronomat MOP dial “A man with one watch always knows what time it is. A man with two watches is never sure.”

26 January 2020, 02:29 AM	#30
Likestheshiny "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2017 Location: _ Posts: 1,877	That model never had pronounced chamfers. I suspect the people saying it's overpolished are comparing it to the wrong watches. Looks fine to me.

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