PM Daytona Availability

[RyanO]

I feel like availability of PM Daytonas has slowly been drying up, and today I noticed on Watchrecon that only a single 116505 was available for sale (there are often a handful) and its the less desirable model with the diamond markers.

I've been waiting a few months for the 116505 with black dial. Curious if others have noticed this as well?

Maybe collectors are pulling the trigger on pre-owned inventory at prices that don't necessarily reflect the raise in MSRP?

[jcoltrane]

Your suspicion is correct. I spoke with my AD the other day and he said the situation with Rolex availability is getting worse, not better.

[RyanO]

Originally Posted by jcoltrane

Your suspicion is correct. I spoke with my AD the other day and he said the situation with Rolex availability is getting worse, not better.

That’s kind of a bummer tbh


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[Giangos]

My AD told me last week that all Daytona’s are allocation pieces now.
I asked for a blue dial WG 116509 and was lucky to receive it in 3 weeks. I think it was lucky timing, and a good relationship. She tells me they only see that particular piece about twice a year.




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[RyanO]

Originally Posted by Giangos

My AD told me last week that all Daytona’s are allocation pieces now.
I asked for a blue dial WG 116509 and was lucky to receive it in 3 weeks. I think it was lucky timing, and a good relationship. She tells me they only see that particular piece about twice a year.




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That’s a gorgeous piece, I’ve seen it in the metal, congrats man. Did you pay 2019 retail?


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[Giangos]

Originally Posted by RyanO

That’s a gorgeous piece, I’ve seen it in the metal, congrats man. Did you pay 2019 retail?


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When I asked it was 19 pricing.
When I received, I paid 2020 price. I did ask if it was sitting in the back. I was told it just came in the latest shipment. Of course there is no way of knowing.
Nothing can be done anyway, I either wanted it or not, and I wanted it so I paid the RRP.


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[RyanO]

Originally Posted by Giangos

When I asked it was 19 pricing.
When I received, I paid 2020 price. I did ask if it was sitting in the back. I was told it just came in the latest shipment. Of course there is no way of knowing.
Nothing can be done anyway, I either wanted it or not, and I wanted it so I paid the RRP.


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At least you had a short wait. I’m in the same
Boat, I requested the watch and placed a deposit in 2019, and now I’m going to be paying the 2020 price when it lands here...


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[garyk]

Originally Posted by Giangos

My AD told me last week that all Daytona’s are allocation pieces now.
I asked for a blue dial WG 116509 and was lucky to receive it in 3 weeks. I think it was lucky timing, and a good relationship. She tells me they only see that particular piece about twice a year.

That is such an outstanding looking timepiece! Congratulations!!

[Georgevlado]

I’ve seen the prices of 116505 slowly rise

[Singslinger]

I believe the situation is similar in Singapore.

[mobster600]

How many people walk in an buy 35k-45k watches? Slim to none. It’s not over demand that’s drying up supply. That’s a lot of money collecting dust if they can’t move the watch. Its better to order then hold inventory.

[RyanO]

Originally Posted by mobster600

How many people walk in an buy 35k-45k watches? Slim to none. It’s not over demand that’s drying up supply. That’s a lot of money collecting dust if they can’t move the watch. Its better to order then hold inventory.

They may be reducing supply, but I think there’s more demand for these pieces than you’re giving credit for.


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[Calatrava r]

Originally Posted by mobster600

How many people walk in an buy 35k-45k watches? Slim to none. It’s not over demand that’s drying up supply. That’s a lot of money collecting dust if they can’t move the watch. Its better to order then hold inventory.

There does seem to be a genuine interest in PM Daytona's that is somewhat unusual but that is where the market trend setters are leading us at the moment.

[BumbleB]

Originally Posted by Calatrava r

There does seem to be a genuine interest in PM Daytona's that is somewhat unusual but that is where the market trend setters are leading us at the moment.

I guess depends on which market as well. In US East Coast and Caribbean Islands I frequently see Full Gold and Platinum Daytonas. In Southeast Asia they won’t last more than 2 hours in the display case.


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[RyanO]

Originally Posted by BumbleB

I guess depends on which market as well. In US East Coast and Caribbean Islands I frequently see Full Gold and Platinum Daytonas. In Southeast Asia they won’t last more than 2 hours in the display case.


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That’s interesting. Do they command a premium on the grey market there?


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[BumbleB]

Originally Posted by RyanO

That’s interesting. Do they command a premium on the grey market there?


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Well, definitely no discount at ADs at all, lucky if you can get it. Whereas in US I was offered 20% off a full gold SkyD and 15% off a Platona last October


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[BumbleB]

Originally Posted by mobster600

How many people walk in an buy 35k-45k watches? Slim to none. It’s not over demand that’s drying up supply. That’s a lot of money collecting dust if they can’t move the watch. Its better to order then hold inventory.

I saw 3 platinum Daytonas and one full Rosegold with black dial around DC last October.

I guess they don’t move as fast, they even offered discount.


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[Giangos]

Originally Posted by BumbleB

I saw 3 platinum Daytonas and one full Rosegold with black dial around DC last October.

I guess they don’t move as fast, they even offered discount.


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My AD tells me that they have been trying for months get a platinum for a VIP and they can’t get it.

Different scenarios play out in different places.



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[garyk]

Originally Posted by Giangos

My AD tells me that they have been trying for months get a platinum for a VIP and they can’t get it.

Different scenarios play out in different places.

Truly!

[RyanO]

Originally Posted by BumbleB

I saw 3 platinum Daytonas and one full Rosegold with black dial around DC last October.

I guess they don’t move as fast, they even offered discount.


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Was the black dial 116505 at Tourneau? If so, they definitely weren’t offering a discount, as I inquired about the same watch.


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[BumbleB]

Originally Posted by RyanO

Was the black dial 116505 at Tourneau? If so, they definitely weren’t offering a discount, as I inquired about the same watch.


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Yes, it was at Tourneau. No discount on the RG black dial.

The discount was offered on the Platonas. And also on a Full gold SkyD.


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[RHIII]

Originally Posted by mobster600

How many people walk in an buy 35k-45k watches? Slim to none. It’s not over demand that’s drying up supply. That’s a lot of money collecting dust if they can’t move the watch. Its better to order then hold inventory.

Honestly, more than a lot of people think.


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[trippinjimmy]

I wonder how many people look at the market price of the 500 (22-30k) and think for only a few grand more, I can have a full pm piece.

Maybe that was Rolex’s plan all along ...


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[nightmyth]

Originally Posted by trippinjimmy

I wonder how many people look at the market price of the 500 (22-30k) and think for only a few grand more, I can have a full pm piece.

Maybe that was Rolex’s plan all along ...


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That was exactly my thought process. Rather give my money to Rolex than to flippers

[fskywalker]

Originally Posted by nightmyth

That was exactly my thought process. Rather give my money to Rolex than to flippers

This!!!!


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[RyanO]

Originally Posted by trippinjimmy

I wonder how many people look at the market price of the 500 (22-30k) and think for only a few grand more, I can have a full pm piece.

Maybe that was Rolex’s plan all along ...


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I think it’s difficult not to at least consider that logic. I know I did. I love my steel pieces, but nothing feels like PM on the wrist to me.


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[Alcan]

If you're ok with "like new" there are 285 of them on Chrono24 right now. Prices vary.

[envuks]

Originally Posted by trippinjimmy

I wonder how many people look at the market price of the 500 (22-30k) and think for only a few grand more, I can have a full pm piece.

Maybe that was Rolex’s plan all along ...


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I’d argue that there might be something wrong with anyone who didn’t at least ask themselves this question

[garyk]

I’m waiting on a 116508 YG green dial. My AD told me they have never even seen one and my name is on the incoming sometime this year. That’s all the info I have.

[RyanO]

Originally Posted by garyk

I’m waiting on a 116508 YG green dial. My AD told me they have never even seen one and my name is on the incoming sometime this year. That’s all the info I have.

I’m on the list for that too, but not expecting anytime soon, so figure I have time.

I find it hard to believe they’ve never seen one, but I hope you get yours soon. It’s a special watch - the green and YG are so quintessential Rolex, and just sing together.


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