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wappinghigh · 6 February 2020, 10:27 PM

The recent Horology House fiasco just brings to light this insane insatiable price squeeze for Rolex just because "it's a Rolex..."

Talk about get sucked into the marketing!

And getting caught out on one of the most expensive Rolex - the Daytona...well what do people really know about Rolex and their chronograph movement?

One could argue my Venus 175 based Seagull I purchased brand new for $150 bucks has just as much heritage as a 30K Daytona..

And I can see the movement work! (It has a sapphire case back).

Yeh I know there will be Daytona smugs that will laugh at my Seagull...thinking the Chinese "stole" the movement, but do they know that V actually sold them the movement (they couldn't make a buck out of it during the Quartz crisis)..so Val went on to build and spruik the cheaper and lesser quality Val 7735 ...based on the Venus 188 (which was a lesser quality chono than the 175)...which then became ETA and on it goes..

So feeling cool about your Rolex chronographs?...

You did know it was Rolex who initially got their chrono movements from other manufacturers to begin with as well right?... the Gallet based Venus 140's etc way back in the late 20's..then there was the Zenith based movements etc etc...

So just how "original" is the Daytona?..and what makes you all think it's any better or got any more horological significance than my $150 buck Seagull?!

Comments welcome!

W

WatchLurv · 6 February 2020, 10:29 PM

You sound a little bit frustrated?

wappinghigh · 6 February 2020, 10:32 PM

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Originally Posted by WatchLurv

You sound a little bit frustrated?

Nah.. couldn't feel better!

Love my Seagull !

And my Explorer?..well the 3000 in that, was the first (and basis) of the greatest movement Rolex actually "inhouse" made..!

So I'm sweet Dude...

Don't worry about me! :)

W

wm82 · 7 February 2020, 09:05 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wappinghigh

Nah.. couldn't feel better!

Love my Seagull !

And my Explorer?..well the 3000 in that, was the first (and basis) of the greatest movement Rolex actually "inhouse" made..!

So I'm sweet Dude...

Don't worry about me! :)

W

Its the other way around. The 3000 was a budget version of the 3035, it was made to replace the 1530 no date movement so they could end the 5513 in 1991.

R G · 7 February 2020, 04:59 AM

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Originally Posted by WatchLurv

You sound a little bit frustrated?

2th_doc · 6 February 2020, 10:31 PM

Smh

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BroncoOne · 6 February 2020, 10:35 PM

So, don't buy a Rolex.Its not for you.

BTW- nearly nothing about owning a mechanical watch makes logical sense and hasn't since mobile telephones and other personal electronics became ubiquitous (leaving the underwater and extreme environment conditions aside).
It's about things that aren't logical. It's about emotional appreciation of such mechanical devices and what they mean to you, particularly if they are gifts, rewards or were owned by one of your parents, granparents etc.

wappinghigh · 6 February 2020, 10:39 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BroncoOne

So, don't buy a Rolex.Its not for you.

BTW- nearly nothing about owning a mechanical watch makes logical sense and hasn't since mobile telephones and other personal electronics became ubiquitous (leaving the underwater and extreme environment conditions aside).
It's about things that aren't logical. It's about emotional appreciation of such mechanical devices and what they mean to you, particularly if they are gifts, rewards or were owned by one of your parents, granparents etc.

Who said Rolex isn't for me!!!.. I already said I own and love my explorer...and am after a Date Just and GMTII 16710..

I respect those models..

I'm just arguing the Daytona is way over rated.. (and I have stated my reasons)..

I believe they are perfectly logical..

Cheers!

beshannon · 6 February 2020, 10:33 PM

wappinghigh · 6 February 2020, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by beshannon

So "what" begins?

beshannon · 6 February 2020, 10:40 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wappinghigh

So "what" begins?

brandrea · 6 February 2020, 10:35 PM

Well for starters it’s a Rolex

(kinda)

Joe_Row · 6 February 2020, 10:35 PM

Is this a satirical post?

wappinghigh · 6 February 2020, 10:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Joe_Row

Is this a satirical post?

No I am deadly serious...

(Rolex chronographs never began "inhouse...")

So horologically they are nothing more than my Seagull...

Prove me wrong...

Joe_Row · 7 February 2020, 01:11 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wappinghigh

No I am deadly serious...

(Rolex chronographs never began "inhouse...")

So horologically they are nothing more than my Seagull...

Prove me wrong...

I think you maybe need a lay down and when you wake up the world may appear a brighter place...

jbreeden · 6 February 2020, 10:36 PM

If people don't know nothing, does that mean they do know something?

brandrea · 6 February 2020, 10:37 PM

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Originally Posted by jbreeden

If people don't know nothing, does that mean they do know something?

Yep, double negatives work that way

RolyMoly · 6 February 2020, 10:38 PM

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Originally Posted by jbreeden

If people don't know nothing, does that mean they do know something?

I had the same question. To “don’t know nothing” would mean they know things.

wolffram · 6 February 2020, 10:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jbreeden

If people don't know nothing, does that mean they do know something?

Lol, you sound like me...I’m forever telling my kids that you can’t use a double negative!

jbreeden · 6 February 2020, 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by wolffram

Lol, you sound like me...I’m forever telling my kids that you can’t use a double negative!

well i am still trying to figure out if people could or couldn't care less.

sgwatchguy · 6 February 2020, 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jbreeden

well i am still trying to figure out if people could or couldn't care less.

I’ve tried to figure that one out on some occasions - but then I realized, I couldn’t care less. 😂

adjective INFORMAL • BRITISH
adjective: couldn't-care-less
characterized by complete indifference. Like in some reactions to this thread? 🤔

JonaG · 6 February 2020, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by jbreeden

well i am still trying to figure out if people could or couldn't care less.

Lol. That one drives me crazy. “I could care less”!

Nairn1980 · 7 February 2020, 01:39 AM

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Originally Posted by jbreeden

If people don't know nothing, does that mean they do know something?

Exactly.....always annoys me when people say that

glamorama · 6 February 2020, 10:38 PM

Feel better after that

I hope

Watch This · 6 February 2020, 10:41 PM

Happy New Year!

F17RUK · 6 February 2020, 10:43 PM

wappinghigh · 6 February 2020, 10:45 PM

...Yep here come all the smarty pants..

So rather than just trying to be clever..

Care to prove by reasoned argument that I'm factually incorrect?

Watch This · 6 February 2020, 10:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by wappinghigh

...Yep here come all the smarty pants..

So rather than just trying to be clever..

Care to prove by reasoned argument that I'm factually incorrect?

I prefer to let you do it yourself.

wappinghigh · 6 February 2020, 10:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Watch This

I prefer to let you do it yourself.

Ok... what do you know about the Rolex 2737 Chrono for example?...you know.. the one that arguably is the father of all Rolex Chrono's...

Tavli3 · 6 February 2020, 10:54 PM

You may be factually correct about the technicalities of the movements, but you have an odd way of presenting your argument on a Rolex Forum!
I have no idea what a Seagull watch or it's movement is and no desire to find out, not to say I'm knocking it. You'll find little support here when basically saying your 150.00 watch is the best thing since time was invented and our Rolex's are copyrighted crap. Maybe try some less sharp elbows next time.

20,30,40 and even 50 years from now I'll put my Rolex up against any 150.00 watch you can name and bet it works better and still has exponentially way more value. Not to mention style and class.

6 February 2020, 10:27 PM	#1
wappinghigh "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Australia Watch: 14270 14060 Posts: 318	People don't know nothing about Rolex... The recent Horology House fiasco just brings to light this insane insatiable price squeeze for Rolex just because "it's a Rolex..." Talk about get sucked into the marketing! And getting caught out on one of the most expensive Rolex - the Daytona...well what do people really know about Rolex and their chronograph movement? One could argue my Venus 175 based Seagull I purchased brand new for $150 bucks has just as much heritage as a 30K Daytona.. And I can see the movement work! (It has a sapphire case back). Yeh I know there will be Daytona smugs that will laugh at my Seagull...thinking the Chinese "stole" the movement, but do they know that V actually sold them the movement (they couldn't make a buck out of it during the Quartz crisis)..so Val went on to build and spruik the cheaper and lesser quality Val 7735 ...based on the Venus 188 (which was a lesser quality chono than the 175)...which then became ETA and on it goes.. So feeling cool about your Rolex chronographs?... You did know it was Rolex who initially got their chrono movements from other manufacturers to begin with as well right?... the Gallet based Venus 140's etc way back in the late 20's..then there was the Zenith based movements etc etc... So just how "original" is the Daytona?..and what makes you all think it's any better or got any more horological significance than my $150 buck Seagull?! Comments welcome! W

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WatchLurv Banned Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: Moon Watch: Swiss Posts: 2,270	You sound a little bit frustrated?

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6 February 2020, 10:35 PM	#7
BroncoOne "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Boston Posts: 1,335	So, don't buy a Rolex.Its not for you. BTW- nearly nothing about owning a mechanical watch makes logical sense and hasn't since mobile telephones and other personal electronics became ubiquitous (leaving the underwater and extreme environment conditions aside). It's about things that aren't logical. It's about emotional appreciation of such mechanical devices and what they mean to you, particularly if they are gifts, rewards or were owned by one of your parents, granparents etc.

6 February 2020, 10:35 PM	#12
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,126	Well for starters it’s a Rolex (kinda)

6 February 2020, 10:35 PM	#13
Joe_Row "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2019 Location: Cheshire, England Watch: Explorer 214270 Posts: 247	Is this a satirical post?

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jbreeden "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2016 Real Name: James Location: georgia Watch: 116234 Posts: 528	If people don't know nothing, does that mean they do know something?

6 February 2020, 10:38 PM	#24
glamorama "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2018 Real Name: Dan Location: Benelux Posts: 1,920	Feel better after that I hope

6 February 2020, 10:41 PM	#25
Watch This Banned Join Date: Mar 2015 Location: In your head Watch: SS YMII Posts: 1,619	Happy New Year!

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wappinghigh "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: Australia Watch: 14270 14060 Posts: 318	...Yep here come all the smarty pants.. So rather than just trying to be clever.. Care to prove by reasoned argument that I'm factually incorrect?

6 February 2020, 10:54 PM	#30
Tavli3 "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2019 Real Name: Jim Location: miami Watch: GMT II 16760 Posts: 1,676	You may be factually correct about the technicalities of the movements, but you have an odd way of presenting your argument on a Rolex Forum! I have no idea what a Seagull watch or it's movement is and no desire to find out, not to say I'm knocking it. You'll find little support here when basically saying your 150.00 watch is the best thing since time was invented and our Rolex's are copyrighted crap. Maybe try some less sharp elbows next time. 20,30,40 and even 50 years from now I'll put my Rolex up against any 150.00 watch you can name and bet it works better and still has exponentially way more value. Not to mention style and class.

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