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24 February 2020, 05:32 AM
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Daytona 16528 inverted 6 4 liner 200 bezel real or fake
Hello, I have an opportunity to buy this one very cheaply, which is why i’m curious if its all ok? ive seen tens of solid gold fakes, all of which were miles away from gen ones, and none had proper hands working. This looks good to me but who knows. I cant get a pic of the movement unfortunately so this is the only set of pics available
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24 February 2020, 05:33 AM
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24 February 2020, 05:33 AM
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24 February 2020, 05:34 AM
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24 February 2020, 05:34 AM
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24 February 2020, 05:35 AM
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24 February 2020, 05:45 AM
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My pictures are at higher resolution, hosting made them a little blurry, so if someone would like sharper pictures i can send them
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24 February 2020, 04:19 PM
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Anyone found anything suspicious?
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24 February 2020, 08:59 PM
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Let the seller put it on a scale, weight will be an instant tell... There are no high quality fakes around of this reference, especially with plated / wrapped gold. Details look good from my side, the real question now is whether the seller is actually in possession of the watch.
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24 February 2020, 09:19 PM
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According to the owner it weighs 169 grams
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24 February 2020, 10:46 PM
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25 February 2020, 02:08 AM
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There is 14 links, I don’t know the factory count. Owner doesnt know much about the watch- he put it for sale after his friend- its owner died in a motorcycle crash, he’s helping his wife that way. But he has a good selling story he runs a business selling audio hi fi, doesnt have any problem meeting at his address, doesnt sound like a scammer. But the watch is less than half its value so im suspicious, oh and it is located in Czech republic, and there are some quality fakes around there hard to distinguish (ww2 militaria) i hope they havent mastered watches yet...
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25 February 2020, 04:23 AM
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- Motorcycle crash story - watch 50% below market value. - location (why doesnt the guy look for a local buyer? Rolex watches sell everywhere on this planet) - strange pictures... did he provide you with a picture of the watch with current date and czech newspaper? If not, ask for it. After receiving the image use some online tools / reddit board's to check the it for signs of digital forgery. Some further suggestions - call his neighbors or shops nearby and ask if they know the seller - come with (hidden) entourage to his place. don’t have the cash money on your body or elsewhere close to yourself until you inspected the watch - chose a local AD for the transaction if possible |
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24 February 2020, 10:36 PM
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From the poor pictures looks ok, but I’d like to see better pictures to be 100%
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25 February 2020, 06:04 AM
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Obviously you would be wise to proceed with extreme caution and do your due-diligence, especially with a piece as (potentially) valuable as this. I'd want to speak with the seller over the phone to get a read on him (and verify that it's a legit number, and not a VOIP/Google Voice number). You might ask for a couple photos with a specific configuration/time set/background/etc. to prove he actually has the piece in his possession and not just scamming with pirated pics from the internet. I'd want to confirm it is not stolen either, so you would need the SN. If everything checks out, I'd still want to pay via CC or PayPal, even if it meant covering the additional fees. YMMV. Good luck. 
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26 February 2020, 10:52 PM
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One more pic of the side im worried by the pattern on the sides of the bracelet links
https://imgur.com/gZbo3mS Edit* false alarm- checked on chrono24 they have similar patterns, i guess smooth polishing came with the new models |
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27 February 2020, 01:43 AM
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Its 18kt gold
But crown is marked 3 dots same size for SS? I have only personally seen TT cases with incorrect crown marking. PS - you realize this is the ZENITH movement nit inhouse 4130 A
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27 February 2020, 03:33 AM
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27 February 2020, 03:55 AM
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But its coded as SS not 18Kt Gold!
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27 February 2020, 05:42 AM
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As mentioned, the only oddity (for me) is the dial. I've never seen that particular dial with a "no tick" layout. They may exist, but I've seen plenty of them and they have all had the "T Swiss Made T" lower on the dial, spanning 7 half-ticks.
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27 February 2020, 05:46 AM
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Not noticed it on solid gold - that said, I see a lot less solid to TT Thanks
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27 February 2020, 04:06 AM
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https://www.chrono24.pl/rolex/dayton...id14030259.htm
This one also has all three dots the same size |
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