Rolex Daytona 6239 - buying advice appreciated

[scharnke]

Hello VRF!

I have this 6239 Daytona in my sight.

Its a 6239 1,6mill series from 1967.

Not original end links as you can see and service hands.
Unknown service history buy seller tells me its running fine.

I post this post to you guys in order to get a second opinion. I don't have enough knowledge here unfortunatley.

Should I pull the trigger on 35K USD or pass on this watch?

Please let me know you thoughts :)

Best,
Sebastian

[77T]

I’m not certain about that 300 count bezel being original in 1967 models. I’m more accustomed to seeing the 200 count.

The 300 count was the first one after Bakelite I believe. Here’s what a 1967-68 model would look like.



The price is also low due to incompleteness - does the rivet bracelet clasp have codes that agree with the 1967 s/n period?

You might want to arrange an experienced agent to action your behalf. It’s easy to miss something that makes you ill later.




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[Michael M.]

Stay away.. appears to be completely fake.

[scharnke]

Originally Posted by Michael M.

Stay away.. appears to be completely fake.

wow!

Please tell me, is there something in particular you notice, just of curiosity :)

Have a good one!

[1675-David]

those engravings look very suspicious, should the words stainless steel even be there?

[77T]

Originally Posted by 1675-David

those engravings look very suspicious, should the words stainless steel even be there?

Not according to the ones for sale elsewhere. For example, a 1.6mill 6239 on Chrono24...








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[MorningTundra]

That warrant paper has been “washed”

[dhknola]

Wow, thanks for pointing the white wash, I missed that until you pointed out...and people wonder why old Rolex paper brings big cash on ebay...

[AJMarcus]

Is this on eBay?

[HutchLC]

I see read the comments of people and I get shocked
I thing that they see that the watch is real and that the engravings are not right
So this guys wrong with saying that the are
Original dial and bracelet too
It may be that the dial is from 68 and bracelet from 65
I see this watches with stainless engraving and without
The only factor is the Preise but same SAME watche is in Germany and UK by popular dealer for 60-70 K
This watch is real and price is very good
Even without certificate
Best regards
HutchLC

[1665fan]

Is that the seller???

[HutchLC]

Originally Posted by 1665fan

Is that the seller???

So what you think
I have seen many engravings by both side of watches with engravings like my lidle child can dou by this watch is all perfect

[HutchLC]

I wish but not

[HutchLC]

For me is a non accept if some one without have the watch in his hand to say is completely fake

[HutchLC]

Pleas tell me who is saller of this watch I will buy it for that price

[roh123]

Originally Posted by HutchLC

Pleas tell me who is saller of this watch I will buy it for that price

Michael M is right. If you feel like getting scammed it is sold through a private listing in Norway. I can give you the url through PM.

[HutchLC]

Originally Posted by roh123

Michael M is right. If you feel like getting scammed it is sold through a private listing in Norway. I can give you the url through PM.

Please pm me

[roh123]

Originally Posted by HutchLC

Please pm me

Ad seems to be gone. Sorry.. You get to save your money.

https://www.finn.no/bap/forsale/ad.h...kode=172119998

[Dan S]

Originally Posted by HutchLC

Pleas tell me who is saller of this watch I will buy it for that price

How can you buy it from yourself?

[HutchLC]

I want to buy that watchou can look at Chrono24
There are same watches witch stainless engravings and same bezel same dial

[AJMarcus]

This thread is very strange and not going anywhere productive at this point

[jlovda]

Originally Posted by AJMarcus

This thread is very strange and not going anywhere productive at this point

The broken English doesn't help.

[scharnke]

So, go and buy it or not ?

Any hard facts here? :)

[pablofields]

Originally Posted by scharnke

So, go and buy it or not ?

Any hard facts here? :)

Here are two hard facts:

1. One of the most respected and knowledgeable vintage guys on this forum (Michael M) has opined it appears to be fake.
2. Someone who appears to have joined the forum only in response to the watch being questioned has posted several times all but urging you to buy it and assuring you that the watch is similar to others being sold for twice the price, and he is itching to buy it himself.

[holroale]

Originally Posted by pablofields

Here are two hard facts:



1. One of the most respected and knowledgeable vintage guys on this forum (Michael M) has opined it appears to be fake.

2. Someone who appears to have joined the forum only in response to the watch being questioned has posted several times all but urging you to buy it and assuring you that the watch is similar to others being sold for twice the price, and he is itching to buy it himself.

He’s now questioning about it in VRF


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[1665fan]

What A clown

[scharnke]

Cool, then i drop it! Thank you guys!

[HutchLC]

I gues that you are a clown and most of you are thinking to be masters of Rolex
Dear guys don’t try to help each other to make you’re own business and do open you’re eyes and see what crapp on the market is and also ask you’re self if you real know or if you just be dogs of some one who thinks he is a king

[swish77]

Originally Posted by HutchLC

I gues that you are a clown and most of you are thinking to be masters of Rolex
Dear guys don’t try to help each other to make you’re own business and do open you’re eyes and see what crapp on the market is and also ask you’re self if you real know or if you just be dogs of some one who thinks he is a king

There are several problems with the authenticity of this watch, but I'll just take one small, but important, detail.

Compare the engravings here, with the movement in the OP's watch on the left, and a confirmed authentic 722 movement on the right.

Do those look the same? You be the judge.

[1watch]

Originally Posted by swish77

There are several problems with the authenticity of this watch, but I'll just take one small, but important, detail.



Compare the engravings here, with the movement in the OP's watch on the left, and a confirmed authentic 722 movement on the right.



Do those look the same? You be the judge.

This is clear evidence watch is a fake.


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