?Barked Oysterquartz Day Date 19018

[commander_keen]

Hi guys,

first post here and I already need your help.

I have been eyeing an Oysterquartz as my first Rolex.
I love the angular design and was looking for the black or blue dial with either of the two bracelet types. Sadly, the price for these beauties has doubled recently, at least over here (Germany).

Now I have come across this beauty but I was not aware that the 19018 came in a barked version.

Real or fake? I would really appreciate your input.
Thanks

[miamiclay]

Bark is not mentioned specifically, but a catalog description of the 19018 is included HERE on the powerfunk list of all barked models, so I expect it’s legit.

[powerfunk]

Originally Posted by miamiclay

a catalog description of the 19018 is included HERE

I don't think the 19018 was ever barked, David was just showing those models to show that 18048 should always be barked and not have sapphire bezels iirc.

[watchlovr]

Just be aware your options for servicing these rare models will be severely limited. I would firstly check whether Rolex even service them.

The electronic components have not been made for many years and cannot be replicated when they run out.

[commander_keen]

Thanks so much! Any thought on the price?

The seller wants $5400 without box and papers and without the bracelet.
Just the watch that is on a Rolex leather strap.

[winst]

Originally Posted by commander_keen

Thanks so much! Any thought on the price?

The seller wants $5400 without box and papers and without the bracelet.
Just the watch that is on a Rolex leather strap.

That sounds way too expensive to me.

[fmc000]

Originally Posted by commander_keen

Thanks so much! Any thought on the price?



The seller wants $5400 without box and papers and without the bracelet.

Just the watch that is on a Rolex leather strap.

I would never buy an Oysterquartz without the bracelet, regardless of the price.

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[commander_keen]

What would you guys pay?

[zapokee]

Originally Posted by commander_keen

What would you guys pay?

Wouldn't pay anything for it. And that's not a Rolex strap. They'd laugh you out of the shop if you went in and asked for a leather strap for an Oysterquartz.

This is not the watch you're looking for.

[Zoran]

Originally Posted by fmc000

I would never buy an Oysterquartz without the bracelet, regardless of the price.

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I agree with Fabio here.
The bracelet and it's finishing is what makes the OQ a looker.
The watch is not very popular with the majority of Rolex buyers and Bark models even less. There are good deals to be made for a complete watch, which is what I would look for.

Best of luck

[erlendh]

Originally Posted by fmc000

I would never buy an Oysterquartz without the bracelet, regardless of the price.

I second this. I have three OQ. The bracelet is the arguably what makes the watch. It does not work with a strap. An OQ without the bracelet is nothing.

Side note: I've had no problems servicing my Oysterquartzes.

[MILGAUSS88]

Originally Posted by commander_keen

Thanks so much! Any thought on the price?

The seller wants $5400 without box and papers and without the bracelet.
Just the watch that is on a Rolex leather strap.

That comes with an integral bracelet. (Not meant to ever be removed.) so, every leather strap will have to be custom made.
Without the bracelet, that is just a parts watch to me. I think there is about a $1,000 worth of parts there.

I just say one online with bark bezel/ bracelet and burled wood dial for $9000.
I would consider that a much better deal.

[BigBlue1]

Don’t buy it. Move on. They can be had for a couple thousand more with bracelet. I would pass. Wait, be patient, save a little.

[1William]

I would pass on this one. Do some research on service and associated costs and once you have that information go find a complete model with box, papers and a bracelet.

[offrdmania]

The Oysterquartz looks really weird on a strap. I would pass. And the price is way too high for a watch without lugs.

[haven_seeker]

I own a 19018 so I feel like I can personally speak on the matter of authenticity.

That watch does look correct.

Curious to see if you have any shots showing off the barked sections? Mine is a traditional 19018...very lovely watch to wear and own.

[miamiclay]

Originally Posted by haven_seeker

Curious to see if you have any shots showing off the barked sections? Mine is a traditional 19018...very lovely watch to wear and own.

Being on a strap, I assumed that the only barked part is the bezel.

Which itself sets me thinking a bit - Is there certainty/consensus that factory 19018s were originally offered as a bark model at all?

- Of the 75 19018s currently on C24, it appears none have bark bezels (nor bark bracelets).
- Usually on 5-digit models, barked versions have a different reference number than non-barked ones, but this does not.
- The image of the 19018 description was added to powerfunk’s list of barked models, but the text of the description there does not mention bark - Usually the catalog descriptions mention bark decoration where it is present.

It was crowncollection who added the 19018 catalog page to the “all barked models” thread (again, HERE), and his expertise and resources outweigh mine like an ocean liner outweighs a flea.

But, crowncollection added that image in the midst of a discussion about reference numbering and diamond bezels in some of the 180xx/182xx series. So, on further reflection, I’m now not sure we should interpret that post as crowncollection saying that 19018 models were originally offered from the factory with bark bezels.

It may be well known that barked and non-barked versions shared the 19018 reference, I just don’t want us to leap to that conclusion when it’s unclear (at least to me) whether that’s the case.

David/cc, what say you?

[crowncollection]

Originally Posted by miamiclay

Being on a strap, I assumed that the only barked part is the bezel.

Which itself sets me thinking a bit - Is there certainty/consensus that factory 19018s were originally offered as a bark model at all?

- Of the 75 19018s currently on C24, it appears none have bark bezels (nor bark bracelets).
- Usually on 5-digit models, barked versions have a different reference number than non-barked ones, but this does not.
- The image of the 19018 description was added to powerfunk’s list of barked models, but the text of the description there does not mention bark - Usually the catalog descriptions mention bark decoration where it is present.

It was crowncollection who added the 19018 catalog page to the “all barked models” thread (again, HERE), and his expertise and resources outweigh mine like an ocean liner outweighs a flea.

But, crowncollection added that image in the midst of a discussion about reference numbering and diamond bezels in some of the 180xx/182xx series. So, on further reflection, I’m now not sure we should interpret that post as crowncollection saying that 19018 models were originally offered from the factory with bark bezels.

It may be well known that barked and non-barked versions shared the 19018 reference, I just don’t want us to leap to that conclusion when it’s unclear (at least to me) whether that’s the case.

David/cc, what say you?

19018 is simply on the same catalogue page. As some barked models I wanted to add to the list. It is not bark itself. . Cheers


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[zapokee]

An OQ on a strap is necessarily a botch job. It has to be on the integrated bracelet.

[Andad]

I think that one is genuine and a quick look at the movement would confirm but I would pass on that one and keep looking.

[Octoberseventyfour]

wow, that is expensive pal.

In EU (at least in Spain) you can get a 19018 around 6k€, complete box and papers...

This one is not for you. Happy hunting!

[commander_keen]

I have moved on from this one.
You guys were very clear and unanimous here and have probably
spared me a huge disappointment.
Thank you!

I see if I can get a picture of the movement.
I would still be interested identifying this one.

[commander_keen]

Disappointingly, the seller has not yet supplied me with a picture?
Meanwhile, I have my eye on a 17014, 1987/88 and opened a new thread.
Thank you for your help on this one!
I feel I avoided a big mistake.

Oysterquartz 17014 - Opinions please?
https://www.rolexforums.com/showthread.php?t=739800