15450 or 26315?

[TankTom]

Hypothetical question, I’m interested to hear the fellow forum member’s view: Providing they both fit equally as well as one another, which would you choose MSRP from boutique:

- 15450 blue dial
- 26315 with blue sub dials

Thanks!

[Collector2019]

I’ll get both please


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[Horolojust]

Originally Posted by TankTom

Hypothetical question, I’m interested to hear the fellow forum member’s view: Providing they both fit equally as well as one another, which would you choose MSRP from boutique:

- 15450 blue dial
- 26315 with blue sub dials

Thanks!

They do both fit equally. I’ll pick 15450 blue dial due to in-house movement, exhibition caseback, and stunning blue dial.


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[snowvapor]

Originally Posted by Horolojust

They do both fit equally. I’ll pick 15450 blue dial due to in-house movement, exhibition caseback, and stunning blue dial.


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The 26315 doesn't come with an in-house movement ?

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[doctoryellow]

Originally Posted by snowvapor

The 26315 doesn't come with an in-house movement ?

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It’s a F. Piguet chronograph, not in house

[snowvapor]

Originally Posted by doctoryellow

It’s a F. Piguet chronograph, not in house

ahh... thanks for the info, learning more and more everyday.

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[TankTom]

Originally Posted by Horolojust

They do both fit equally. I’ll pick 15450 blue dial due to in-house movement, exhibition caseback, and stunning blue dial.


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Love your YouTube stuff by the way!

[Horolojust]

Originally Posted by TankTom

Love your YouTube stuff by the way!

Thanks so much :)
Love to be in this community and talk watches :)


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[CasinoRoyale_007]

Originally Posted by Horolojust

They do both fit equally. I’ll pick 15450 blue dial due to in-house movement, exhibition caseback, and stunning blue dial.


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Hafiz - I love your videos so much, especially how you take the time to have third party perspective shots (I agree that super closeup wristshots distort perspective, for example I know I can pull off a 41mm 15500 and so can many others even with non-huge wrists).

That being said, I also have watched the 15450 and 26135 videos obsessively - and I know you think they generally wear similar, but why is it that the ROC seems to me (and to many others on the forums, through a quick search) generally accepted as an appropriate size no matter what the wrist size whereas people sometimes think a 15450 seems "too small" (dial too small even if overall "shape" is not)? Is there any cosmetic difference in a chrono dial that makes it "wear" larger? Or is it the pushers?

I've heard everything from 15450 wears similar to Daytona / OP / DJ41 to that a 15450 wears smaller than a 5 digit... (and I loved your Instagram post comparing a 15450 to a Hulk too; I have that saved down).

I ask as I'm also looking at a 15450 versus a 15300 versus a 26315...and with the 4500v and 7900v (and 49150, 2nd Gen Big Date Chrono) from VC in the mix as well, I'd welcome any perspectives.... (think this is useful for OP as well if anyone else hops on with sizing perspectives)

[MrBlahBlah]

Originally Posted by CasinoRoyale_007

Hafiz - I love your videos so much, especially how you take the time to have third party perspective shots (I agree that super closeup wristshots distort perspective, for example I know I can pull off a 41mm 15500 and so can many others even with non-huge wrists).

That being said, I also have watched the 15450 and 26135 videos obsessively - and I know you think they generally wear similar, but why is it that the ROC seems to me (and to many others on the forums, through a quick search) generally accepted as an appropriate size no matter what the wrist size whereas people sometimes think a 15450 seems "too small" (dial too small even if overall "shape" is not)? Is there any cosmetic difference in a chrono dial that makes it "wear" larger? Or is it the pushers?

I've heard everything from 15450 wears similar to Daytona / OP / DJ41 to that a 15450 wears smaller than a 5 digit... (and I loved your Instagram post comparing a 15450 to a Hulk too; I have that saved down).

I ask as I'm also looking at a 15450 versus a 15300 versus a 26315...and with the 4500v and 7900v (and 49150, 2nd Gen Big Date Chrono) from VC in the mix as well, I'd welcome any perspectives.... (think this is useful for OP as well if anyone else hops on with sizing perspectives)

I have a blue dial 4500V and absolutely love it. Ultimately it’s way more versatile than the RO, and (personally) I don’t agree with some of the knocks that it got in Hafiz’ head-to-head video with the RO.

That being said, I’m in the market for the grey dial 26315 38mm ROC. Now that I have the versatile three handler in the Overseas, and a blue dial that it an absolute stunner, I feel like a ROC would be the perfect compliment. Fist of all, I still love the RO and lust after it’s design and bracelet. The grey dial ROC would provide a different dial color, a complication, and a different design. The RO feels more precious - with its lower water resistance and case/bracelet that I would not want to scuff - and with the “everyday” Overseas at my side, the ROC could be the watch I wear on occasions when I’m not going to be in a position to scuff.

The lack of an in house movement does bug me a little bit, especially at the price. But the design is to die for and I still have my Overseras movement to gawk at.

[CasinoRoyale_007]

Originally Posted by MrBlahBlah

I have a blue dial 4500V and absolutely love it. Ultimately it’s way more versatile than the RO, and (personally) I don’t agree with some of the knocks that it got in Hafiz’ head-to-head video with the RO.

That being said, I’m in the market for the grey dial 26315 38mm ROC. Now that I have the versatile three handler in the Overseas, and a blue dial that it an absolute stunner, I feel like a ROC would be the perfect compliment. Fist of all, I still love the RO and lust after it’s design and bracelet. The grey dial ROC would provide a different dial color, a complication, and a different design. The RO feels more precious - with its lower water resistance and case/bracelet that I would not want to scuff - and with the “everyday” Overseas at my side, the ROC could be the watch I wear on occasions when I’m not going to be in a position to scuff.

The lack of an in house movement does bug me a little bit, especially at the price. But the design is to die for and I still have my Overseras movement to gawk at.

I am so strongly considering that blue 4500V, so I am very happy that you love it. I love the idea of the strap change and that's totally real value since I can do a bracelet a lot of the time and put it on the leather when I need to dress it up a bit. The rubber is awesome for a super sporty look too.

I love the RO design as well, and totally see your addiction with the 38mm 26315 too. Do you think it'll wear a lot smaller than your 41mm VC? In regard to the movement, I agree with you; in house would be cool but then again the F Piguet 1185 is a legendary movement so I'm alright with it, haha.

[MrBlahBlah]

Originally Posted by CasinoRoyale_007

I am so strongly considering that blue 4500V, so I am very happy that you love it. I love the idea of the strap change and that's totally real value since I can do a bracelet a lot of the time and put it on the leather when I need to dress it up a bit. The rubber is awesome for a super sporty look too.

I love the RO design as well, and totally see your addiction with the 38mm 26315 too. Do you think it'll wear a lot smaller than your 41mm VC? In regard to the movement, I agree with you; in house would be cool but then again the F Piguet 1185 is a legendary movement so I'm alright with it, haha.

I think the 38mm ROC wears smaller than the 4500V, but only a little smaller.

This may actually be to its benefit. There’s no doubt that the RO is a bit, shall we say...noticeable. Personally, I’m enamored with the bracelet/case design, and how the facets play with light. But I also don’t want to signal from across the room with my wrist (perhaps watch meetups aside...Haha). That’s me personally, and the smaller size of the 26315 is a little more toned down than how the 41mm variant would look on my wrist. I also think that due to the case and bracelet construction and integration, the watch wears larger than its stated diameter, at least 1mm up to 2mm larger. When read as a whole, particularly with the grey dial and SS bracelet, the 26315 is still quite a substantial - but not oversized - piece on the wrist.

Just my opinions and impressions of course, based on my wrist size of 170-175mm.

[mbalmz]

I love both but would go 15450 out of those two options for two reasons:

- MSRP significantly lower

- the blue dial is my favorite 15450 but I actually prefer the ruthenium dial for the 26315 (tho I love both dials!)

[chiscott_29]

Can you get a 15450 blue dial from an AD? Those are not easy to get anymore. If you can get that at MSRP, I'd get that. I have the 26315 with blue subdials and I totally love it, but to me it isn't quite as versatile as the 15450/15500.

Now, if you already have the watch that can "do it all", I'd probably get the 26315. Unless you are truly truly a movement nerd, I don't think it matters that it isn't in house. It's a very well-established movement that AP has been using for years. Get what you think fits better into your collection. You're going to win either way!

[Benzsiam]

Both of them look good.
15450 is 37mm, 26315 is 38mm, you should try both of them and see which one that you really like it and take that one.
At ADs, it is still not that easy to find but not as hard as 15500st.
15450 is a lot cheaper than 26315 for msrp, but at grey probably about 2K cheaper.

[juanwinston]

Originally Posted by Benzsiam

Both of them look good.
15450 is 37mm, 26315 is 38mm, you should try both of them and see which one that you really like it and take that one.
At ADs, it is still not that easy to find but not as hard as 15500st.
15450 is a lot cheaper than 26315 for msrp, but at grey probably about 2K cheaper.

Is the 26315 quite easily available in AD?

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[Benzsiam]

Originally Posted by juanwinston

Is the 26315 quite easily available in AD?

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For 26315 grey color is not that hard to find at the Boutique (not ADs).

If you like grey color, I think you can find BNIB at a better price than msrp at TRF on sale section.

[Valedictorian]

I got the 15450 blue from the local AP boutique in Feb this year and there’s arguably no better watch in that size. It wears more like a 38mm and thus very versatile. It’s an absolute stunner. Even at grey market prices, it would still be worth it. It’s one of the few AP models that will appreciate in value while retaining its appeal. It’s the future vintage 14790.

[Nauti]

26315 is a lovely piece particularly the blue sub dialled version.

Really want to try one to see how size compares with my 15300..

The movement would not bother me at all the F. Piguet 1185 aka the AP 2385 is a fabulous movement used widely across the AP range and also by Vacheron & Blancpain..

[Laszlo]

Originally Posted by Nauti

26315 is a lovely piece particularly the blue sub dialled version.

Really want to try one to see how size compares with my 15300..

The movement would not bother me at all the F. Piguet 1185 aka the AP 2385 is a fabulous movement used widely across the AP range and also by Vacheron & Blancpain..

The movement is also modified quite a bit by AP.

[Pongster]

Originally Posted by Nauti

26315 is a lovely piece particularly the blue sub dialled version.

Really want to try one to see how size compares with my 15300..

The movement would not bother me at all the F. Piguet 1185 aka the AP 2385 is a fabulous movement used widely across the AP range and also by Vacheron & Blancpain..

I agree.

Besides, still a Piguet after all.

Am curious. Is Frederic related to Edward-Auguste?

[Twovalvekid]

Flirting with the idea of a blue 15450 myself. What am i honestly looking at as far as getting one from an AD? Im moving to southeastern VA in august, and live in upstate NY (saratoga area). So easily visiting one could be a pain.

[NYG1121]

It has more of a heft compared to 15450. That is because of the slightly bigger size, thicker bezel and case. It is much better proportioned than the 15450 IMO. I don't ever feel it is too small when I wear it.