Daytona 165000 vs AP 15450

[Ragnarok]

An earlier topic from a gentleman inquiring about a Daytona vs an ROO 41m had me thinking that I have the opportunity to trade my 165000LN into a RO 15450 RO 37M. Personally, I do feel the 37M is an adequate size as majority of my watches are 40m +, so this will be a breathe of fresh air. Additionally, since all RO wears larger, I don’t believe I’ll have any issue with the 37m. I know it comes down to personal preference and honestly, I must confess I never dared to think about owning an AP until I took into consideration the premium of a Daytona... seeing how the 15450 could be had for 19k - 23k (used of new and blue dial), it is on par with the Daytona white.

Many have mentioned that AP can be rather costly for service and frankly I don’t even know how often a service is needed on a AP. Additionally, at a 50m water resistance, it seems I won’t be wearing it to the showers (kidding).

All the watch stores are closed at the moment so it’s impossible to gauge the size of the watch on my wrist.
I am pretty much set on a 15450 and is not looking at any other variations from AP.

Much appreciate the honest feedback and opinions..

Happy Easter all!


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[Ragnarok]

Forgotten to include-
I do not have the means to keeping both watches.

I do have a BLRO and another dress watch in my collection.
So my question is whether AP 15450 or 165000 Daytona.


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[sgwatchguy]

The Daytona sits perfect on my 6.5” wrist. The 15450 was small, and because the angled lugs on the AP create a natural flare, the bracelet on the curve of the wrist looked funny. I don’t have that issue with the 38mm AP which sits square on the wrist esp at 12 o’clock.

I would strongly recommend trying before buying. It’s a great looking watch for sure.


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[djona]

Is it possible to keep the Daytona and sell the BLRO toward the 15450?

[Ragnarok]

Originally Posted by djona

Is it possible to keep the Daytona and sell the BLRO toward the 15450?

While the said proposal is certainly an option, it is just that I do not have another gmt complication watch in my collection. I also don’t want to add 5-8k on top of the BLRO with the uncertainty surrounding the pandemic.

While your feedback is worth consideration especially knowing that I paid retail for the blro. So it’s basically buying the 15450 for 14k ...


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[georgekart]

To me the 15450 also seems small, I'd keep the Daytona. Seems to me like you just want the RO and are going for smaller version cause it is cheaper. If money was no object would you pick up 15450 or go for 15400/15500? If you'd still pick up the 15450, go for it. If you'd go for the 15400/15500 you'll find out at some point you've made a mistake if you go for 15450.

[Ragnarok]

Originally Posted by georgekart

To me the 15450 also seems small, I'd keep the Daytona. Seems to me like you just want the RO and are going for smaller version cause it is cheaper. If money was no object would you pick up 15450 or go for 15400/15500? If you'd still pick up the 15450, go for it. If you'd go for the 15400/15500 you'll find out at some point you've made a mistake if you go for 15450.

You are spot on. I mainly want a or any variation of the Covenant royal oak, which is why I settled on the cheaper option. Granted, I have never tried a 37m royal oak in person (all the watch stores are closed) and basing my experience off a 36m datejust, I really prefer a slightly more traditional (small sized) wrist watch. Since royal oak wears big, I’m thinking it should wear something like a 39m, which would be similar to the size of a Daytona. I know it’s stupid to comparing without any visual aids but it does seems that majority of the said members here shares the fact that 37mis in face a small watch... one last thing I was thinking, provided the Daytona is still fetching at a very high premium, I wanted to take an opportunity to trading up...
I will reassess the watch once the pandemic ends and if 37m is too small, I will default to 15400


One final question, did AP raised the retail price for their pieces earlier this year like Rolex?


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[kumar75203]

While the 15450 is the right diameter for smaller wrists, the proportions seems a little "off." I suggest you try one on before making a decision.

[2nastie]

Going on a year now, I went the opposite direction. I moved my 15400 and ended up with the Daytona. Yes, the AP is a very nice watch but functionally I love the Daytona more.

I’ll eventually get a Royal Oak back but it would be the 15202.

[Ragnarok]

Originally Posted by 2nastie

Going on a year now, I went the opposite direction. I moved my 15400 and ended up with the Daytona. Yes, the AP is a very nice watch but functionally I love the Daytona more.

I’ll eventually get a Royal Oak back but it would be the 15202.

May I ask which variation of the Daytona you ended up with? Did you go PM or SS?
Daytona is perfect a very refined size for modern watch, which is why I am leaning towards more on the 15450.
Moreover, what is so compelling that you want a 15202? Is ownership of AP just that much more?


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[2nastie]

Originally Posted by Ragnarok

May I ask which variation of the Daytona you ended up with? Did you go PM or SS?
Daytona is perfect a very refined size for modern watch, which is why I am leaning towards more on the 15450.
Moreover, what is so compelling that you want a 15202? Is ownership of AP just that much more?


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I got the 116500 with the white dial. My 15400 was the silver/white.

The 15202 imo has the best overall size and distinctive blue dial I like. It’s ultra thin and resembles/“is” the original royal oak.

[Ragnarok]

Originally Posted by 2nastie

Going on a year now, I went the opposite direction. I moved my 15400 and ended up with the Daytona. Yes, the AP is a very nice watch but functionally I love the Daytona more.

I’ll eventually get a Royal Oak back but it would be the 15202.

Seeing that the grey 15500 is 23k vs blue at 32k, I might just get the 15500! Thanks


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[Muxi]

The AP 15450 is my favorite daily watch today but I have Daytonas and I cannot imagine letting go of any of them. Be patient and just add is my advice.

[TankTom]

Originally Posted by Ragnarok

An earlier topic from a gentleman inquiring about a Daytona vs an ROO 41m had me thinking that I have the opportunity to trade my 165000LN into a RO 15450 RO 37M. Personally, I do feel the 37M is an adequate size as majority of my watches are 40m +, so this will be a breathe of fresh air. Additionally, since all RO wears larger, I don’t believe I’ll have any issue with the 37m. I know it comes down to personal preference and honestly, I must confess I never dared to think about owning an AP until I took into consideration the premium of a Daytona... seeing how the 15450 could be had for 19k - 23k (used of new and blue dial), it is on par with the Daytona white.

Many have mentioned that AP can be rather costly for service and frankly I don’t even know how often a service is needed on a AP. Additionally, at a 50m water resistance, it seems I won’t be wearing it to the showers (kidding).

All the watch stores are closed at the moment so it’s impossible to gauge the size of the watch on my wrist.
I am pretty much set on a 15450 and is not looking at any other variations from AP.

Much appreciate the honest feedback and opinions..

Happy Easter all!


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What’s your wrist size please? This is key info required to give advice on this.

[Zoran]

Originally Posted by TankTom

What’s your wrist size please? This is key info required to give advice on this.

I agree with this question.
If you were looking at the 37mm I assume your wrist size is around 6,5".
The 15450 will not only wear small but the dial will also be smaller than the Daytona. Switching to the 15400 or 15500 will be a big difference in the other direction. They wear and look a lot bigger as they also have a wider bracelet.

I would definitely try one on first and not rush in. The opportunity will come soon.

In the meantime you might consider the 15300 on bracelet or 15300.OR on a strap. Both can be had in a straight trade I believe without adding money on top.
Different dial variations to make your collection more diversified and wears right in between the 15450 and the 15400/15500.

[Ragnarok]

Originally Posted by Zoran

I agree with this question.
If you were looking at the 37mm I assume your wrist size is around 6,5".
The 15450 will not only wear small but the dial will also be smaller than the Daytona. Switching to the 15400 or 15500 will be a big difference in the other direction. They wear and look a lot bigger as they also have a wider bracelet.

I would definitely try one on first and not rush in. The opportunity will come soon.

In the meantime you might consider the 15300 on bracelet or 15300.OR on a strap. Both can be had in a straight trade I believe without adding money on top.
Different dial variations to make your collection more diversified and wears right in between the 15450 and the 15400/15500.

Just checked, my wrist size is 6 3/4in. So i guess it’s the border line of 37-38m. I agree, I should just wait and try on the piece before hastily deciding on it...
I have gotten people telling me that a 36m datejust (sold already was a bit small). For comparison the Daytona vs the 36m 1601 datejust.



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[Muxi]

Originally Posted by Ragnarok

Just checked, my wrist size is 6 3/4in. So i guess it’s the border line of 37-38m. I agree, I should just wait and try on the piece before hastily deciding on it...
I have gotten people telling me that a 36m datejust (sold already was a bit small). For comparison the Daytona vs the 36m 1601 datejust.



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We have the same wrist size and the 15450 fits my wrist just right.

[Ragnarok]

Originally Posted by Muxi

We have the same wrist size and the 15450 fits my wrist just right.

Thank you for the feedback. Question, what color is your dial and did you purchase it at retail ?


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[Ragnarok]

Originally Posted by Muxi

We have the same wrist size and the 15450 fits my wrist just right.

Hi Muxi, do you have a wrist shot of your 15450


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[TankTom]

Originally Posted by Ragnarok

Just checked, my wrist size is 6 3/4in. So i guess it’s the border line of 37-38m. I agree, I should just wait and try on the piece before hastily deciding on it...
I have gotten people telling me that a 36m datejust (sold already was a bit small). For comparison the Daytona vs the 36m 1601 datejust.



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6.75 inch wrist means the 15400 and 15500 are an absolute no go for you IMO. The 15450 will fit you nicely I think but you simply must try it on because it’s a strange sized watch and some people think the proportions are off. I think you have to choose an AP over a Rolex in my humble opinion.

[epc2]

Was in a similar situation last year but Daytona Vs 15400 instead of 15450 , but wrist size plays a big factor for me , Daytona wore way too small for my taste., It's an awesome watch , never seen a 15450 in person so can't compare it to a Daytona but like it has been said they wear big for their size, Daytona also is not 40mm it's a 38.5mm watch.

[koinemas]

Hi.. your wrist is same with me.. Last year I hv opportunity to buy Ap 15450 blue dial. When i try in boutique, i feel too small for my wrist. I also hv daytona 116500 that fits my wrist better. trust me...try first before you trade your daytona..cheers

[Ragnarok]

Originally Posted by koinemas

Hi.. your wrist is same with me.. Last year I hv opportunity to buy Ap 15450 blue dial. When i try in boutique, i feel too small for my wrist. I also hv daytona 116500 that fits my wrist better. trust me...try first before you trade your daytona..cheers

I will try to find one. Would one be available at your ad if I decide to pursue with the purchase ? Haha

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[Gee2789]

I have both the SS ceramic Daytona (black dial) and just recently got the 15450 in blue dial. My only regret is that I didn’t try the 15450 sooner.

To me, the 15450 is comparable in size with the Daytona. However, the finish, dial, legibility and overall wrist feel of the 15450 is, in my opinion, better than the Daytona. I still love my Daytona, but if I had to pick a daily it’d be the 15450.

[Ragnarok]

Originally Posted by Gee2789

I have both the SS ceramic Daytona (black dial) and just recently got the 15450 in blue dial. My only regret is that I didn’t try the 15450 sooner.

To me, the 15450 is comparable in size with the Daytona. However, the finish, dial, legibility and overall wrist feel of the 15450 is, in my opinion, better than the Daytona. I still love my Daytona, but if I had to pick a daily it’d be the 15450.

Very valuable output! Thank you. Now I need to find somewhere that carry one or two, make a friend with a stranger that has one.

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[subtona]

Prefer the Daytona

[Jet_Luu]

Fortunate to have both and I prefer the 116500LN as my daily. The AP is an attention getter and scratch magnet. The Daytona is just a beauty of a workhorse.

Initially I wanted the 15400 but found a great deal on the 15450 and it turned out to be a better fit after all.

[Kliminator]

For reference. 15450 on my ~6.3 in wrist. It's an awesome piece! Hope you can find one and try it on. Definitely do that before making the decision as you'll have to make sure you like it on the wrist

If you have a boutique near you, go and drop in once all the COVID-19 craziness dies down.

[Ragnarok]

Originally Posted by Kliminator

For reference. 15450 on my ~6.3 in wrist. It's an awesome piece! Hope you can find one and try it on. Definitely do that before making the decision as you'll have to make sure you like it on the wrist

If you have a boutique near you, go and drop in once all the COVID-19 craziness dies down.

My wrist is a bit larger than yours so I would probably lean towards the 15450 once the global fiasco ends. Gorgeous picture by the way.


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[Santiago79]

I my opinion I would recommend the Daytona since I Know they fit well. But I would recommend just to wait until set ADs re-open just to tray and see first hand which suits you best.
Good luck man