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subrollie · 13 April 2020, 03:06 AM

Hi!

Would appreciate any info to know of this dial is original.

Thanks in advance and Happy Easter!!

haven_seeker · 13 April 2020, 03:48 AM

Not sure on the dial, but those hands have been abused...!!!

subrollie · 13 April 2020, 04:36 AM

Thanks

Wahlberg · 17 April 2020, 06:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by subrollie

Thanks

The 2nd picture shows the hands have been damaged but the 3rd one shows nothing?

subrollie · 13 April 2020, 04:41 AM

Its a watch I bought from Raymond Lee Jewellers. Bought it as a 16520... Had it shipped to
A US Address. They gave me the serial
number and showed it to me via email. x serial.

When i got it back from the states on a trip a year later. The serial number was x but model number 16523. Ugh!

The receipt they gave me just said rolex daytona. I never contacted then since an oversight like that and a receipt with no info... Well. Live and Learn.

I hope the dial is real. Would add value to this franken watch

jaisonline · 19 April 2020, 11:36 PM

Did you pay using credit card? If so, might be worth calling the bank to see if they can help.

Quote:

Originally Posted by subrollie

Its a watch I bought from Raymond Lee Jewellers. Bought it as a 16520... Had it shipped to
A US Address. They gave me the serial
number and showed it to me via email. x serial.

When i got it back from the states on a trip a year later. The serial number was x but model number 16523. Ugh!

The receipt they gave me just said rolex daytona. I never contacted then since an oversight like that and a receipt with no info... Well. Live and Learn.

I hope the dial is real. Would add value to this franken watch

PVR · 13 April 2020, 05:56 AM

Looks good. Inverted 6 T SWISS MADE T. I see nothing wrong here.

WCHROLX · 16 April 2020, 01:32 AM

Looks original but quite old.

blancysteve · 13 April 2020, 06:03 AM

Looks like a cracker to me

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subrollie · 13 April 2020, 06:21 AM

Thanks for the input!

Just trying to make sure the serif and font on the lettering are correct etc

You never know what can be faked these days.

DGB · 13 April 2020, 08:31 AM

Ok so it’s a two tones converted to SS.
Careful not to have purchased a Frankenwatch.

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1665fan · 13 April 2020, 08:41 AM

Nice dial but a converted 2 tone, which is probably against the law to sell as 16520

subrollie · 13 April 2020, 08:54 AM

Thanks. Hoping the dial is original so can salvage the watch

Like I said proceed with Caution when buying from Raymond Lee jewellers in Miami

RyanPrasad · 15 April 2020, 10:00 AM

Can’t tell from the pictures but wouldn’t a black dial 16523 have gold lettering? Also you’d be able to tell right away as I believe the subdials and indices would have YG surrounds?

1665fan · 15 April 2020, 11:00 AM

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Originally Posted by RyanPrasad

Can’t tell from the pictures but wouldn’t a black dial 16523 have gold lettering? Also you’d be able to tell right away as I believe the subdials and indices would have YG surrounds?

It’s the wrong dial for the watch....

[email protected] · 15 April 2020, 11:14 AM

somethings fishy

1665fan · 16 April 2020, 01:46 AM

It’s a SS dial in a 2 tone case...it’s not original to the watch but genuine SS dial

RyanPrasad · 16 April 2020, 05:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by 1665fan

It’s a SS dial in a 2 tone case...it’s not original to the watch but genuine SS dial

Ok that makes way more sense then. Someone had a TT case then swapped the bezel, dial, hands and bracelet just to pawn it off. Insane the lengths some shadeball dealers will go through...

My guess is that the dealer obv. knew which is why they listed it as a "daytona" without any specifics.

Has the OP tried to contact them? any response?

Also curious now, is the bracelet a correct 78360 with 503 endlinks?

swish77 · 16 April 2020, 05:44 AM

As above, curious what the seller has to say about all this. Any response?

And to clarify, you have email traffic and/or perhaps the original sales listing showing that the watch was being marketed as a 16520?

A big problem here, if I'm reading correctly, is that you waited a year to actually get and examine the watch. Is that right?

Nauti · 18 April 2020, 02:48 PM

Hmmm

I might be inclined to obtain a 16523 dial of your choice and gold bezel and return it to factory spec.

Sell your black dial and bezel which will fetch good money.

As currently it falls between 2 stools and not easy to explain or move on.....

Or just enjoy it.

jaisonline · 19 April 2020, 11:40 PM

Hi, returning it to original spec might be more costly than prob the trouble. The OP will need 2 gold pushers, 1 gold crown, the dial & bezel (as you stated] plus the 2-tone bracelet. OP will also need RSC (once they open) to tell him what specific dial was sold with it.

I say enjoy the watch or just sell it once the economy is more stable.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Nauti

Hmmm

I might be inclined to obtain a 16523 dial of your choice and gold bezel and return it to factory spec.

Sell your black dial and bezel which will fetch good money.

As currently it falls between 2 stools and not easy to explain or move on.....

Or just enjoy it.

Chris85 · 10 May 2020, 01:31 PM

Dial looks good. Here's mine

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PVR · 10 May 2020, 11:52 PM

subrollie: Your inbox is full. I would buy this watch and return it to 16523. If you want to sell it please PM me. Alternatively, if you wanted to return it to 16523 and keep it, I could help you source all of the parts you need..

subrollie · 11 May 2020, 01:55 AM

Thanks for all the advice everyone!

I still like the watch. The dial drew me in in that black with red lettering and inverted 6

Im more focused on whats going on now with this pandemic.

I will reach out to them.

15 April 2020, 10:00 AM	#14
RyanPrasad "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2014 Real Name: NotRyan? Location: Chicago Watch: Daytona 16520 Posts: 114	Can’t tell from the pictures but wouldn’t a black dial 16523 have gold lettering? Also you’d be able to tell right away as I believe the subdials and indices would have YG surrounds? __________________ 16800 Matte \| 16750 No-Date \| 16550 Polar \| 16520 White Inverted 6 \| 1601 Linen Sigma

13 April 2020, 03:48 AM	#2
haven_seeker "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2015 Location: Northern Ontario Watch: 19018N OQ Posts: 848	Not sure on the dial, but those hands have been abused...!!!

13 April 2020, 04:41 AM	#5
subrollie "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: montreal Posts: 7	Its a watch I bought from Raymond Lee Jewellers. Bought it as a 16520... Had it shipped to A US Address. They gave me the serial number and showed it to me via email. x serial. When i got it back from the states on a trip a year later. The serial number was x but model number 16523. Ugh! The receipt they gave me just said rolex daytona. I never contacted then since an oversight like that and a receipt with no info... Well. Live and Learn. I hope the dial is real. Would add value to this franken watch

13 April 2020, 05:56 AM	#7
PVR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Darien, CT Posts: 332	Looks good. Inverted 6 T SWISS MADE T. I see nothing wrong here.

16 April 2020, 01:32 AM	#8
WCHROLX Banned Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: usa Posts: 105	Looks original but quite old.

13 April 2020, 06:03 AM	#9
blancysteve "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2020 Location: IE Posts: 24	Looks like a cracker to me Sent from my SM-G965F using Tapatalk

13 April 2020, 06:21 AM	#10
subrollie "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: montreal Posts: 7	Thanks for the input! Just trying to make sure the serif and font on the lettering are correct etc You never know what can be faked these days.

13 April 2020, 08:31 AM	#11
DGB "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: uk Posts: 992	Ok so it’s a two tones converted to SS. Careful not to have purchased a Frankenwatch. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

13 April 2020, 08:41 AM	#12
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,660	Nice dial but a converted 2 tone, which is probably against the law to sell as 16520

13 April 2020, 08:54 AM	#13
subrollie "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: montreal Posts: 7	Thanks. Hoping the dial is original so can salvage the watch Like I said proceed with Caution when buying from Raymond Lee jewellers in Miami

15 April 2020, 11:14 AM	#16
[email protected] Banned Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Iowa Posts: 48	somethings fishy

16 April 2020, 01:46 AM	#17
1665fan "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2017 Location: East coast Posts: 6,660	It’s a SS dial in a 2 tone case...it’s not original to the watch but genuine SS dial

16 April 2020, 05:44 AM	#19
swish77 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Aaron Location: CT/NYC Watch: ing the time! Posts: 6,988	As above, curious what the seller has to say about all this. Any response? And to clarify, you have email traffic and/or perhaps the original sales listing showing that the watch was being marketed as a 16520? A big problem here, if I'm reading correctly, is that you waited a year to actually get and examine the watch. Is that right?

18 April 2020, 02:48 PM	#20
Nauti "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2020 Location: UK Posts: 140	Hmmm I might be inclined to obtain a 16523 dial of your choice and gold bezel and return it to factory spec. Sell your black dial and bezel which will fetch good money. As currently it falls between 2 stools and not easy to explain or move on..... Or just enjoy it.

10 May 2020, 01:31 PM	#22
Chris85 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Real Name: Chris Location: South Carolina Watch: AP ROO YG Posts: 1,197	Dial looks good. Here's mine Sent from my SM-N950U using Tapatalk

10 May 2020, 11:52 PM	#23
PVR "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2015 Location: Darien, CT Posts: 332	subrollie: Your inbox is full. I would buy this watch and return it to 16523. If you want to sell it please PM me. Alternatively, if you wanted to return it to 16523 and keep it, I could help you source all of the parts you need..

11 May 2020, 01:55 AM	#24
subrollie "TRF" Member Join Date: Aug 2013 Location: montreal Posts: 7	Thanks for all the advice everyone! I still like the watch. The dial drew me in in that black with red lettering and inverted 6 Im more focused on whats going on now with this pandemic. I will reach out to them.

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