Who decided in the end not to buy a Sub and why?

[Rolex50]

And what did you do/choose instead?

[Dabbadon8]

Me. Thought it was less versatile than I wanted. Got dj36 oyster and smooth bezel with silver dial and sticks. Same movement as sub, more than enough water resistance, almost identical bracelet, more versatile to me than a dive watch. Also fits me better. Don’t regret it. Might get a sub when they update it. That said, I feel the DJ checks the boxes I would use a sub for so I’m more focused on other brands/models for now.

[LuckyHubbyW/aDJ]

Originally Posted by Dabbadon8

Me. Thought it was less versatile than I wanted. Got dj36 oyster and smooth bezel with silver dial and sticks. Same movement as sub, more than enough water resistance, almost identical bracelet, more versatile to me than a dive watch. Also fits me better. Don’t regret it. Might get a sub when they update it. That said, I feel the DJ checks the boxes I would use a sub for so I’m more focused on other brands/models for now.

I was gifted with just about the same DJ though mines have the Blue dial ....... love it for the past year or so that I've owned it but I've recently have my eyes on a SubC with the date. The 36mm...... for me ...... just seems a tad small for my wrist.

Just trying to decide whether or not the extra cash is worth getting the newer ceramic dial and larger case vs.a non ceramic and smaller case .

[Yess]

I'm holding off on the Sub - mostly in the hope they will increase size and add a pop of colour somewhere. These are long-shots, but I live in hope.

There are also equivalent/better dive watches out there for less money if you can look past the fact that they don't say Rolex on the dial (which I can't). Thus, I am grabbing an Air King to hold me over.

[RJRJRJ]

Originally Posted by Yess

I'm holding off on the Sub - mostly in the hope they will increase size and add a pop of colour somewhere. These are long-shots, but I live in hope.

There are also equivalent/better dive watches out there for less money if you can look past the fact that they don't say Rolex on the dial (which I can't). Thus, I am grabbing an Air King to hold me over.

If you want larger with some color, why not an SD43?

[Yess]

Originally Posted by RJRJRJ

If you want larger with some color, why not an SD43?

Price point is hard for me to justify - close to 50% more than the Sub (in Australia - $11 vs $16). It's also a Sea Dweller and not a Sub. Although I would love the date without a cyclops!

[boogiebot]

Originally Posted by Yess

I'm holding off on the Sub - mostly in the hope they will increase size and add a pop of colour somewhere. These are long-shots, but I live in hope.

There are also equivalent/better dive watches out there for less money if you can look past the fact that they don't say Rolex on the dial (which I can't). Thus, I am grabbing an Air King to hold me over.

Why not get a sd43?


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[Yess]

Originally Posted by boogiebot

Why not get a sd43?

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[Chester01]

Originally Posted by Yess

I'm holding off on the Sub - mostly in the hope they will increase size and add a pop of colour somewhere. These are long-shots, but I live in hope.

There are also equivalent/better dive watches out there for less money if you can look past the fact that they don't say Rolex on the dial (which I can't). Thus, I am grabbing an Air King to hold me over.

So you want a bigger dive watch (they make the SD with the splash of color) and you go for an air king which at least appears far smaller than a sub.

[bsegotta]

I bought a sub date and wasn't in love. So I sold it! Bought the Omega seamaster white dial and I am completely in love. Rolex is Rolex and they are amazing but if you love watches you find the one that fills all the voids not just what's in. Definitely have a few Rolex on the list but the sub wasn't for me. P.s. the sub is beautiful and a great watch not trying to take anything away from it just wasn't the fit I wanted.

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[kpinthebay]

Originally Posted by bsegotta

I bought a sub date and wasn't in love. So I sold it! Bought the Omega seamaster white dial and I am completely in love. Rolex is Rolex and they are amazing but if you love watches you find the one that fills all the voids not just what's in. Definitely have a few Rolex on the list but the sub wasn't for me. P.s. the sub is beautiful and a great watch not trying to take anything away from it just wasn't the fit I wanted.

@watchesishoot on Instagram

This right here is my next watch! But I'm ditching the bracelet for a NATO or rubber one.

[JohnGingerwood]

Originally Posted by bsegotta

I bought a sub date and wasn't in love. So I sold it! Bought the Omega seamaster white dial and I am completely in love. Rolex is Rolex and they are amazing but if you love watches you find the one that fills all the voids not just what's in. Definitely have a few Rolex on the list but the sub wasn't for me. P.s. the sub is beautiful and a great watch not trying to take anything away from it just wasn't the fit I wanted.

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I did the exact same thing.

[BogdanS]

6 months ago I have Been invited by AD to get a 114060 and passed, realised I really need the date.


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[PhilLynott]

If they were the same price and availability I'd choose the sub by a hair. The fact that I bought this without any games for over 60% LESS than a sub it's officially off my list love this watch!



I'll take the funds I was going to use on a sub one day and put them towards a YM40 at some point which I love.

[Yess]

Originally Posted by bsegotta

I bought a sub date and wasn't in love. So I sold it! Bought the Omega seamaster white dial and I am completely in love. Rolex is Rolex and they are amazing but if you love watches you find the one that fills all the voids not just what's in. Definitely have a few Rolex on the list but the sub wasn't for me. P.s. the sub is beautiful and a great watch not trying to take anything away from it just wasn't the fit I wanted.

Originally Posted by PhilLynott

If they were the same price and availability I'd choose the sub by a hair. The fact that I bought this without any games for over 60% LESS than a sub it's officially off my list love this watch! I'll take the funds I was going to use on a sub one day and put them towards a YM40 at some point which I love.

Not to hijack the thread - but I was wondering if either of you looked at the Grand Seiko SBGA229? If you did, was it too similar looking to the Sub?

[PhilLynott]

Originally Posted by Yess

Not to hijack the thread - but I was wondering if either of you looked at the Grand Seiko SBGA229? If you did, was it too similar looking to the Sub?

I love that watch just too big at 44mm for my wrist. If they made it in 40 maybe even 42 I'd give it a go probably.

[reeder1]

Originally Posted by PhilLynott

I love that watch just too big at 44mm for my wrist. If they made it in 40 maybe even 42 I'd give it a go probably.

I sold an SD4K and later bought an SBGA231, which is the titanium brother of the 229 you mention. The wearability of the Ti is amazing, as it weighs in at about 130g with the bracelet. That’s about 30g less than a sub. The 229 weighs closer to 200g so it’s a chunk, but the 231 wears much smaller than either the SD4K or the newer Seamaster for me. My wrist is 7.5 inches. Try it if you can! I also had a skin reaction to the 904 stainless steel, so unless I have a special strap it’s a no-go. Sad, right? I sold my Explorer I as well.


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[pearson1995]

My first Rolex I thought was always going to be a sub. Then I saw the BLNR, and that was my first Rolex purchase. Kind of fulfilled the same role. I then wanted to add a hulk, but I couldn’t get on a wait list... I want to add a black bay 58 next, seems to have a lot of the sub DNA but a true tool watch, everything the sub use to be.

[BogdanS]

Originally Posted by Yess

Not to hijack the thread - but I was wondering if either of you looked at the Grand Seiko SBGA229? If you did, was it too similar looking to the Sub?

Up to a point, yes. But the GS bracelet can’t compete against the Oyster. A Sub with a spring drive would be the perfect mash-up.


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[Brny11]

Originally Posted by Yess

Not to hijack the thread - but I was wondering if either of you looked at the Grand Seiko SBGA229? If you did, was it too similar looking to the Sub?

Absolutely beautiful in pics. Absurdly large in person.


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[barneb10]

Back in the day, i was considering getting a Sub Date, but glad i didnt. Absolutely love my 14060.

[brucethemanlee]

I had choice of Sub, Sub with date, SD4K, and DSSD (JC)

Sub and Sub with date - classic but couldn't deal with the squared off lugs. made the Sub look like square odd shape cushion case.

DSSD (JC) - loved the gradient dial and somewhat limited nature of the JC however, the watch is just a massive beast on small wrists. Way too top heavy and is like a dinner plate on my wrist.

SD4K was my choice...
-classic looking just like a Sub

but more importantly these are all the things that the Sub does not have
-shapely lugs
-full minute counter around the entire bezel
-4000 ft depth rating
-no cyclops makes for nice clean dial
-matte dial (instead of glossy)

[Brny11]

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

I had choice of Sub, Sub with date, SD4K, and DSSD (JC)

Sub and Sub with date - classic but couldn't deal with the squared off lugs. made the Sub look like square odd shape cushion case.

DSSD (JC) - loved the gradient dial and somewhat limited nature of the JC however, the watch is just a massive beast on small wrists. Way too top heavy and is like a dinner plate on my wrist.

SD4K was my choice...
-classic looking just like a Sub

but more importantly these are all the things that the Sub does not have
-shapely lugs
-full minute counter around the entire bezel
-4000 ft depth rating
-no cyclops makes for nice clean dial
-matte dial (instead of glossy)

I was lucky to borrow and wear an SD4K for a couple of weeks. It became really uncomfortable. Surprising, I was glad to go back to SubC. I have considered the sd4k a few times. However, it just doesn’t sit right on my wrist.

I do agree it is undeniably a better watch in almost every aspect, but the subtle difference in thickness, makes the Sub a better daily for me.

[El Cascarrabias]

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

I had choice of Sub, Sub with date, SD4K, and DSSD (JC)

Sub and Sub with date - classic but couldn't deal with the squared off lugs. made the Sub look like square odd shape cushion case.

DSSD (JC) - loved the gradient dial and somewhat limited nature of the JC however, the watch is just a massive beast on small wrists. Way too top heavy and is like a dinner plate on my wrist.

SD4K was my choice...
-classic looking just like a Sub

but more importantly these are all the things that the Sub does not have
-shapely lugs
-full minute counter around the entire bezel
-4000 ft depth rating
-no cyclops makes for nice clean dial
-matte dial (instead of glossy)

THIS!

[Duke84]

Originally Posted by brucethemanlee

I had choice of Sub, Sub with date, SD4K, and DSSD (JC)

Sub and Sub with date - classic but couldn't deal with the squared off lugs. made the Sub look like square odd shape cushion case.

DSSD (JC) - loved the gradient dial and somewhat limited nature of the JC however, the watch is just a massive beast on small wrists. Way too top heavy and is like a dinner plate on my wrist.

SD4K was my choice...
-classic looking just like a Sub

but more importantly these are all the things that the Sub does not have
-shapely lugs
-full minute counter around the entire bezel
-4000 ft depth rating
-no cyclops makes for nice clean dial
-matte dial (instead of glossy)

The reasons here are the exact same reasons I chose a SD4k 116600. I love the classic case shape and lack of a cyclops.

[Me4u2night]

Im sure it’s a great watch but it doesn’t do it for me.

[horseShu]

unfortunately the Sub is the most copied diver watch aesthetic, that it has lost most of its luster.

sinking all that money for a watch that is starting to look "common" stops me from pulling the trigger.

[schoolboy]

Originally Posted by Rolex50

And what did you do/choose instead?

I had a two tone sub, but sold it because it felt too flashy and I realized I wanted something a little more minimal in a way

I realized I don’t need 300m water resistance, and a glide lock

I read about the Datejust, and I became enamored with the fact that it is also a TANK but a smaller tank without crown guards

So I bought it instead and never looked back

[EconTigerOrange]

I was 100% sold that I wanted a Sub for my 40th birthday. I ended up wanting the SD43 more as it is a bit bigger and has a splash of color. Glad I ended up with the SD43!

[watchmavan]

Walked in to buy a Sub and walked out with an Explorer. Love it. But I'm not your normal guy as my favorite Rolex is my Polar Explorer II. 5 digit of course.


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