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nintendo · 18 June 2020, 10:34 PM

Hi everyone. Looking to purchase this 16710 pepsi. Full set with paper.

Received some photos from the seller.

Condition looks good. But the engravings between the lugs look iffy to me.

Wondering if it is just me or if you guys see any issue.

Thanks in advance, grateful for any opinions!

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ag986 · 18 June 2020, 10:43 PM

I don't see an issue but the more astute forum members may.

nintendo · 18 June 2020, 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ag986

I don't see an issue but the more astute forum members may.

Thanks!

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lamkinpark · 18 June 2020, 11:05 PM

Everything look fine except the clasp rolex coronet look bad. You may need to verify the authenticity for the clasp.

nintendo · 18 June 2020, 11:09 PM

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Originally Posted by lamkinpark

Everything look fine except the clasp rolex coronet look bad. You may need to verify the authenticity for the clasp.

Thanks! Now that you mentioned it. The coronet does look weird.

The serial and engraving looks ok to you? Seems like there were some touch up done.

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lamkinpark · 18 June 2020, 11:14 PM

Serial engraving look touch up, suggest bring it to RSC verification.

Johnpierpontmorgan · 18 June 2020, 11:25 PM

there are three 8s and one 6s. (P886**8)

very auspicious serial number, especially this is purchase in hongkong (asia)

padi56 · 19 June 2020, 12:15 AM

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Originally Posted by Johnpierpontmorgan

there are three 8s and one 6s. (P886**8)

very auspicious serial number, especially this is purchase in hongkong (asia)

Please explain why.??????

nintendo · 19 June 2020, 12:18 AM

In chinese culture the numeral 8 symbolises fortune/prosperity. While 6 symbolises luck; in some chinese dialects, the pronounciation for 6 is similar or close the the pronounciation of luck.

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Henrimontgomery · 20 June 2020, 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by nintendo

In chinese culture the numeral 8 symbolises fortune/prosperity. While 6 symbolises luck; in some chinese dialects, the pronounciation for 6 is similar or close the the pronounciation of luck.

You had me look at my serial number. Only two 8 and no 6.

MagPI · 19 June 2020, 12:26 AM

Everything looks fine to me except for the buckle, which looks to have been excessively polished. Keep on eye out for flat spots on the bracelet links that might indicate overly aggressive polishing to remove scratches.

nintendo · 19 June 2020, 12:28 AM

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Originally Posted by MagPI

Everything looks fine to me except for the buckle, which looks to have been excessively polished. Keep on eye out for flat spots on the bracelet links that might indicate overly aggressive polishing to remove scratches.

Thanks for that pointer regarding bracelet! Any thoughts on the reference and s/n engravings?

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Fabrice M · 19 June 2020, 01:45 AM

I personally wouldn’t buy it, at least without more pictures. The coronet does feel a little odd on the clasp, and the case back feels very odd as well, it feels stamped rather than machined....But is could be the lighting.

Vipes · 19 June 2020, 03:02 AM

Looks like the buckle has clear tape on it which makes the coronet look off.

nintendo · 19 June 2020, 04:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Vipes

Looks like the buckle has clear tape on it which makes the coronet look off.

Yeah that's correct. The seller has pasted protective stickers. So perhaps that's why. Probably take a look in real life first. Thanks!

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synrrgy · 19 June 2020, 03:13 AM

Take it to RSC or have it authenticated at a reputable watchmaker.

fskywalker · 19 June 2020, 03:57 AM

Looks good; do you trust the seller? Check references? Buy the seller first

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JSCP · 20 June 2020, 10:59 AM

Looks suspicious to me. Buy the seller

bigfatpauli · 20 June 2020, 11:54 AM

What's odd is the SN is covered on the paper work but on the watch it is fully visible.

Are they interested in protecting the SN or not?

nintendo · 20 June 2020, 11:57 AM

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Originally Posted by bigfatpauli

What's odd is the SN is covered on the paper work but on the watch it is fully visible.

Are they interested in protecting the SN or not?

Actually this is my mistake. I wanted to protect the SN. Then i realised if i covered the SN on the case engravings then i would not be able to show the weird last 3 digits engraving and the word 'STEEL'.

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ltmgeller · 20 June 2020, 12:01 PM

I wouldn't unless its authenticated by Rolex.

Nikrnic · 20 June 2020, 12:06 PM

I agree the clasps looks polished down somewhat unless like you say he has a sticker of some sort. ?

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214270Explorer · 20 June 2020, 12:09 PM

"Get a professional evaluation or do not buy" are my watch-words.

nintendo · 20 June 2020, 07:55 PM

Thanks everyone for the advise. Wanted more photos of the lugs engraving and seller wasnt too keen. So decided not to go ahead.

Happy weekend everyone. Stay safe.

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Onikage · 20 June 2020, 08:02 PM

Good decision. The clasp coronet should be central in the square segment it is on.. What else has been jacked and replaced with fake would be my concern.

nintendo · 20 June 2020, 08:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Onikage

Good decision. The clasp coronet should be central in the square segment it is on.. What else has been jacked and replaced with fake would be my concern.

Good tip on the clasp! After comparing with other 78790a clasp. The coronet does look uncentered. My main concern was also the possibility of engraving touch up to match the papers.

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Onikage · 20 June 2020, 08:10 PM

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Originally Posted by nintendo

also the possibility of engraving touch up to match the papers.

Yowch. Good eye. I'd say you've dodged a bullet.

nintendo · 20 June 2020, 08:12 PM

Really thankful for everyone's advice and opinion.

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Ihatecheese · 20 June 2020, 09:17 PM

Interesting post thanks for sharing! I'd also be dubious if the SN, that would massively affect its desirability as previously shared. Let the pros take a look if that's a possibility! Good luck.

Edit. I had another look. The SN isn't that special in that regard. Worth a check anyway. The SN is far sharper than my 18yo sub

nintendo · 20 June 2020, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Ihatecheese

Interesting post thanks for sharing! I'd also be dubious if the SN, that would massively affect its desirability as previously shared. Let the pros take a look if that's a possibility! Good luck.

Indeed! Ought to be careful. Too many details that could be faked/franken these days.

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18 June 2020, 10:34 PM	#1
nintendo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Singapore Posts: 333	Seeking opinions on this 16710 pepsi Hi everyone. Looking to purchase this 16710 pepsi. Full set with paper. Received some photos from the seller. Condition looks good. But the engravings between the lugs look iffy to me. Wondering if it is just me or if you guys see any issue. Thanks in advance, grateful for any opinions! Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

19 June 2020, 03:57 AM	#17
fskywalker 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2014 Real Name: Francisco Location: San Juan, PR Watch: Is Ticking ! Posts: 25,182	Looks good; do you trust the seller? Check references? Buy the seller first Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk Pro __________________ Francisco ♛ 16610 / 116264 Ω 168.022 / 2535.80.00 / 310.30.42.50.01.002 / 210.90.42.20.01.001 Zenith 02.480.405 2FA security enabled

20 June 2020, 10:59 AM	#18
JSCP "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2010 Location: USA Watch: RolexPatekCartier Posts: 2,414	Looks suspicious to me. Buy the seller __________________ PP5167r; PP5153r; PPNautilus 7118r; PP3733-YG; DD40 RG/Sundust; DD40YG/White/Roman;DD40 WG/Olive;Daytona RG;Sub Black YG; Daytona Panda; Celebration 41; GMT-II’s: Left VTNR; GRNR; Batman; SkyDweller SSJubilee/Black; SUB no-date; Oysterquartz SS; DJ SS 36mm’87; Cartier-Roadster YG;Santos YG; Panther YG; Tank’73 YG, Tank Must ‘23;BulgariBB38mm/YG

20 June 2020, 12:01 PM	#21
ltmgeller 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Aug 2012 Real Name: Mike Location: New York Watch: Rolex Posts: 22,580	I wouldn't unless its authenticated by Rolex. __________________ Oh, look at the time... Official Member: 'WIS-CON' Las Vegas International GTG 2019

20 June 2020, 12:09 PM	#23
214270Explorer "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2018 Location: United States Watch: me buy Watches Posts: 3,955	"Get a professional evaluation or do not buy" are my watch-words. __________________ “The display of actual intelligence terrifies much of mankind” Rolex "some" Tudor "some" Damasko "some" Misc Pieces "some" Marathon "some" GS Spring Drive "some" Hamilton "some" Findeisen "some"

18 June 2020, 10:43 PM	#2
ag986 2024 ROLEX SUBMARINER 41 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2016 Real Name: Sam Location: VRB/SUS Watch: 16233, First Rolex Posts: 1,660	I don't see an issue but the more astute forum members may.

18 June 2020, 11:05 PM	#4
lamkinpark "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Malaysia Watch: 116515LN \| 124300 Posts: 289	Everything look fine except the clasp rolex coronet look bad. You may need to verify the authenticity for the clasp.

18 June 2020, 11:14 PM	#6
lamkinpark "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2018 Location: Malaysia Watch: 116515LN \| 124300 Posts: 289	Serial engraving look touch up, suggest bring it to RSC verification.

18 June 2020, 11:25 PM	#7
Johnpierpontmorgan Banned Join Date: May 2020 Location: Singapore Posts: 545	there are three 8s and one 6s. (P886**8) very auspicious serial number, especially this is purchase in hongkong (asia)

19 June 2020, 12:18 AM	#9
nintendo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Singapore Posts: 333	In chinese culture the numeral 8 symbolises fortune/prosperity. While 6 symbolises luck; in some chinese dialects, the pronounciation for 6 is similar or close the the pronounciation of luck. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

19 June 2020, 12:26 AM	#11
MagPI "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2019 Location: USA Posts: 208	Everything looks fine to me except for the buckle, which looks to have been excessively polished. Keep on eye out for flat spots on the bracelet links that might indicate overly aggressive polishing to remove scratches.

19 June 2020, 01:45 AM	#13
Fabrice M 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2014 Location: Denver Watch: This and that... Posts: 1,649	I personally wouldn’t buy it, at least without more pictures. The coronet does feel a little odd on the clasp, and the case back feels very odd as well, it feels stamped rather than machined....But is could be the lighting.

19 June 2020, 03:02 AM	#14
Vipes "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2011 Location: Texas Posts: 4,913	Looks like the buckle has clear tape on it which makes the coronet look off.

19 June 2020, 03:13 AM	#16
synrrgy "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2013 Location: California Posts: 1,472	Take it to RSC or have it authenticated at a reputable watchmaker.

20 June 2020, 11:54 AM	#19
bigfatpauli "TRF" Member Join Date: Jun 2017 Location: Toronto Posts: 684	What's odd is the SN is covered on the paper work but on the watch it is fully visible. Are they interested in protecting the SN or not?

20 June 2020, 12:06 PM	#22
Nikrnic "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2017 Real Name: Louis Nick Ric Location: Michigan, USA Watch: Blnr, Expll, Subs, Posts: 10,172	I agree the clasps looks polished down somewhat unless like you say he has a sticker of some sort. ? Sent from my SM-G970U using Tapatalk

20 June 2020, 07:55 PM	#24
nintendo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Singapore Posts: 333	Thanks everyone for the advise. Wanted more photos of the lugs engraving and seller wasnt too keen. So decided not to go ahead. Happy weekend everyone. Stay safe. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

20 June 2020, 08:02 PM	#25
Onikage "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2011 Location: England Watch: 16710, 16628 Posts: 7,757	Good decision. The clasp coronet should be central in the square segment it is on.. What else has been jacked and replaced with fake would be my concern. __________________ GMT II 16710 TRADITIONAL ( D- Serial #) ROLEXFANBOY P-Club Member #4

20 June 2020, 08:12 PM	#28
nintendo "TRF" Member Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Singapore Posts: 333	Really thankful for everyone's advice and opinion. Sent from my SM-G930F using Tapatalk

20 June 2020, 09:17 PM	#29
Ihatecheese Banned Join Date: Dec 2019 Location: London Posts: 978	Interesting post thanks for sharing! I'd also be dubious if the SN, that would massively affect its desirability as previously shared. Let the pros take a look if that's a possibility! Good luck. Edit. I had another look. The SN isn't that special in that regard. Worth a check anyway. The SN is far sharper than my 18yo sub Last edited by Ihatecheese; 20 June 2020 at 09:20 PM.. Reason: Looked on a bigger screen!

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