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JJ Irani · 17 April 2009, 04:15 AM

Hi guys,

So all that hulla-balloo about Basel 2009 finally came to zilch, bugger all, nothing and a total waste of time.

The long awaited 41 mm DJ was a total disappointment. I wanted it on the Super Jubilee, but all they did was bring out some weird looking dials with flowers on them (what the hell were they thinking??!!)

and even the normal dials were asymmetrically designed and looked pretty cockeyed to me.

Then, of course, we had the 2 famous TT Subs. The Blue colour, as expected, was all wrong; but, in all fairness, the BLACK one does look terrific - what the new prices are going to be is anyone's guess!!

As expected, quite a few totally unaffordable Pars Hilton and David Beckham bling models were introduced........but most of them were garrish and ugly.

So what the heck did Rolex give us this year from Basel 2009? Bugger all!!!

Hey guys......just stick with your present collection and don't make the mistake of selling any!!

The ONLY really SUPERB model to come out of Rolex in recent years is the GMT-IIC (and maybe the DSSD) - end of story......and end of this vent too!!

JJ

GerardoG · 17 April 2009, 04:16 AM

Bravo jj!

Lion · 17 April 2009, 04:18 AM

JJ, you hit the head on the nail!!!

JJ Irani · 17 April 2009, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Lion

JJ, you hit the head on the nail!!!

You mean nail on the head?

Lion · 17 April 2009, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

You mean nail on the head?

Yep, you are probably right. I get things mixed up at times!!!

Trainer · 17 April 2009, 04:32 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

You mean nail on the head?

I agree, but kind of the same thing either way, eh?

Tempus Fugit,

Trainer

Jocke · 17 April 2009, 04:43 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

You mean nail on the head?

Don't try that, it will looks like hair on your head.

Jocke

Nakow · 17 April 2009, 07:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

Don't try that, it will looks like hair on your head.

Jocke

You really pushed hard to be funny here Jocke

! but anyway you are a funny and talented dude !

davidm · 17 April 2009, 04:22 AM

Are indeed, totaly correct!.............................David

Welshwatchman · 17 April 2009, 04:20 AM

For me the star of recent times is the Milgauss GV.

The only Rolex I am actually looking forward to is a GMTc with a Pepsi or Coke bezel, preferably Coke just in case of Smurfication of the blue.

JJ Irani · 17 April 2009, 04:22 AM

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Originally Posted by Welshwatchman

For me the star of recent times is the Milgauss GV.

The only Rolex I am actually looking forward to is a GMTc in Pepsi or Coke.

That's right, Paul.....sorry, I should have mentioned the Milgauss - a very good introduction along with the DSSD and the earlier GMT-IIC.

JJ

postiff · 17 April 2009, 04:21 AM

Ya you are right. The only thing that caught my eye for 30 seconds was the Tudor.

Everything else was kina frightening and looked like my dog barfed it up.

Glad I got my IIc and did not wait for anything special out of this years line up

Danny

<>

gettocard · 17 April 2009, 04:23 AM

don't complain people....just ugly Rolexes for tasteless new markets...Russia,China,Middle East....Rolex is doing what it has to do,you think they really care about westerner's man fine tastes and understatement ?? Don't worry ...new money comes fast and fly away fast,Rolex will be back on track in a couple of years....

Tudor showed some serious stuff tho..

JJ Irani · 17 April 2009, 04:25 AM

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Originally Posted by gettocard

.....Rolex will be back on track in a couple of years......

Maybe true, buddy......but at prices most of us will have to think about more than twice before plonking down any kind of cash on the AD's counter.

My advice again: Hang on to your current collection!!!

Welshwatchman · 17 April 2009, 10:02 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Maybe true, buddy......but at prices most of us will have to think about more than twice before plonking down any kind of cash on the AD's counter.

My advice again: Hang on to your current collection!!!

I fully agree JJ. By the time the Coke GMTc arrives it will be priced well beyond my interest level probably.

Time to track down a 16710 I reckon.

Engi · 17 April 2009, 10:49 AM

Don't worry JJ, the new DJ 41 mm (in more conventional colours) is nice, IMHO, and I guess it will be available soon in the AD shops also with the jubilee bracelet ...

Ciao

Engi

P.S. I fully agree with you, the GMTIIC is the best Rolex of the last years, and for this reason I bought mine ...

Yoda · 17 April 2009, 09:27 AM

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Originally Posted by gettocard

don't complain people....just ugly Rolexes for tasteless new markets...Russia,China,Middle East....Rolex is doing what it has to do,you think they really care about westerner's man fine tastes and understatement ?? Don't worry ...new money comes fast and fly away fast,Rolex will be back on track in a couple of years....

Tudor showed some serious stuff tho..

what kind of comment is this? So the population of the above is tasteless? Forum members come from all over the world.

peppermannen · 18 April 2009, 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by yoda

what kind of comment is this? So the population of the above is tasteless? Forum members come from all over the world.

x 2

gettocard · 18 April 2009, 07:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Yoda

what kind of comment is this? So the population of the above is tasteless? Forum members come from all over the world.

well...I admit tasteless may sound offensive. Let's just say "different " tastes.

Singslinger · 17 April 2009, 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by gettocard

don't complain people....just ugly Rolexes for tasteless new markets...Russia,China,Middle East....Rolex is doing what it has to do,you think they really care about westerner's man fine tastes and understatement ?? Don't worry ...new money comes fast and fly away fast,Rolex will be back on track in a couple of years....

Tudor showed some serious stuff tho..

By your logic, Rolex, which is a global brand, should only cater to "western men's fine tastes and understatement''. Your logic also suggests that making flashy watches is a recent phenomenon to cater to the "tasteless new markets like Russia, China and Middle East'' and that in a couple of years, Rolex will come to its senses and stop making these watches.

Apart from making poor commercial sense, you fail to recognise that Rolex have been making solid gold, diamond-studded watches for decades and that these watches are not just sold in non-Western markets but all over the world. If Rolex were to exhibit the snobbery that you demonstrate, I think they would be nowhere as successful as they are today.

gregdolley · 17 April 2009, 02:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Singslinger

By your logic, Rolex, which is a global brand, should only cater to "western men's fine tastes and understatement''. Your logic also suggests that making flashy watches is a recent phenomenon to cater to the "tasteless new markets like Russia, China and Middle East'' and that in a couple of years, Rolex will come to its senses and stop making these watches.

Apart from making poor commercial sense, you fail to recognise that Rolex have been making solid gold, diamond-studded watches for decades and that these watches are not just sold in non-Western markets but all over the world. If Rolex were to exhibit the snobbery that you demonstrate, I think they would be nowhere as successful as they are today.

x2.

Rolex is not going to bow down to the minority who like understated looks. It may seem to the members of TRF that everyone likes tool watches and that those who like bling are strange people with no taste. This is because most people on TRF like tool watches, but this is hardly indicative of the whole world. In fact, to estimate what is indicative of the world on average, all one has to do is look at the ratio of tool watches vs. dressy and bling watches at your AD. How many tool watches are there? Now how many DJ and DD's are there? At my AD, the section for non-bling tool watches has about 25% of the Rolexes on display. About 45% of the display are DJ's and about 30% are DD's. One doesn't have to be an economics major to figure out that maybe the nicer looking Rolexes sell more than the tool watches.

gettocard · 18 April 2009, 06:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Singslinger

By your logic, Rolex, which is a global brand, should only cater to "western men's fine tastes and understatement''. Your logic also suggests that making flashy watches is a recent phenomenon to cater to the "tasteless new markets like Russia, China and Middle East'' and that in a couple of years, Rolex will come to its senses and stop making these watches.

Apart from making poor commercial sense, you fail to recognise that Rolex have been making solid gold, diamond-studded watches for decades and that these watches are not just sold in non-Western markets but all over the world. If Rolex were to exhibit the snobbery that you demonstrate, I think they would be nowhere as successful as they are today.

a 41 flashy DJ is absolutely tasteless. This the "bigger the better" thing is a last gasp of these wannabe strong economic years gone like ashes in the wind.

wantonebad · 17 April 2009, 04:31 AM

From what I've read JJ I have to agree with you, not just in general but specifically on each point. Next year will bring the new SS along with its balooning price, you'll need to take out a mortgage to buy one. This year saw no real surprises other then no surprises

Bisquitlips · 17 April 2009, 04:42 AM

I must totally agree!

What, in your Rolex collection, would you trade now for what came out in Basel this year?

Me......... Nothing!!!

JJ is completely correct, as usual!

Jocke · 17 April 2009, 04:45 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Hi guys,

So all that hulla-balloo about Basel 2009 finally came to zilch, bugger all, nothing and a total waste of time.

The long awaited 41 mm DJ was a total disappointment. I wanted it on the Super Jubilee, but all they did was bring out some weird looking dials with flowers on them (what the hell were they thinking??!!)

and even the normal dials were asymmetrically designed and looked pretty cockeyed to me.

Then, of course, we had the 2 famous TT Subs. The Blue colour, as expected, was all wrong; but, in all fairness, the BLACK one does look terrific - what the new prices are going to be is anyone's guess!!

As expected, quite a few totally unaffordable Pars Hilton and David Beckham bling models were introduced........but most of them were garrish and ugly.

So what the heck did Rolex give us this year from Basel 2009? Bugger all!!!

Hey guys......just stick with your present collection and don't make the mistake of selling any!!

The ONLY really SUPERB model to come out of Rolex in recent years is the GMT-IIC (and maybe the DSSD) - end of story......and end of this vent too!!

JJ

Next year wil be better, Rolex always have a down year in every 5 year period.

Jocke

Latrodectus · 17 April 2009, 01:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Jocke

Next year wil be better, Rolex always have a down year in every 5 year period.

Jocke

We all hope for the best and that you are right

rajurama · 17 April 2009, 05:00 AM

JJ I agree, however I feel once the new 41's start rolling in the showrooms and our forums with members I think it ll pick up, hopefully even in jubilees. It will have a similar either hate it or love it appeal just like the DSSD and daydate II, im sure the new tt sub will also grow into us!

TempoKing · 17 April 2009, 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by JJ Irani

Hi guys,

So all that hulla-balloo about Basel 2009 finally came to zilch, bugger all, nothing and a total waste of time.

The long awaited 41 mm DJ was a total disappointment. I wanted it on the Super Jubilee, but all they did was bring out some weird looking dials with flowers on them (what the hell were they thinking??!!)

and even the normal dials were asymmetrically designed and looked pretty cockeyed to me.

Then, of course, we had the 2 famous TT Subs. The Blue colour, as expected, was all wrong; but, in all fairness, the BLACK one does look terrific - what the new prices are going to be is anyone's guess!!

As expected, quite a few totally unaffordable Pars Hilton and David Beckham bling models were introduced........but most of them were garrish and ugly.

So what the heck did Rolex give us this year from Basel 2009? Bugger all!!!

Hey guys......just stick with your present collection and don't make the mistake of selling any!!

The ONLY really SUPERB model to come out of Rolex in recent years is the GMT-IIC (and maybe the DSSD) - end of story......and end of this vent too!!

JJ

Can you see why Patrick Heiniger left Rolex at night....

2th Dr · 17 April 2009, 05:34 AM

And to think I almost past up buying my GMT IIC because I thought something better, like maybe a Pepsi ceramic, might come out of Basel 2009.

The GMT Master · 17 April 2009, 05:50 AM

I have to disagree about the DJ II, the black baton dial almost made me have an accident in the trouser region....

But the Blue Sub is a definite miss, as far as I'm concerned.

17 April 2009, 04:15 AM	#1
JJ Irani Fondly Remembered Join Date: May 2005 Real Name: JJ Location: Auckland, NZ Watch: ALL SOLD!! Posts: 74,319	Basel 2009 - came in with a BANG, crawled out with a WHIMPER!!! SHEESH!!! Hi guys, So all that hulla-balloo about Basel 2009 finally came to zilch, bugger all, nothing and a total waste of time. The long awaited 41 mm DJ was a total disappointment. I wanted it on the Super Jubilee, but all they did was bring out some weird looking dials with flowers on them (what the hell were they thinking??!!) and even the normal dials were asymmetrically designed and looked pretty cockeyed to me. Then, of course, we had the 2 famous TT Subs. The Blue colour, as expected, was all wrong; but, in all fairness, the BLACK one does look terrific - what the new prices are going to be is anyone's guess!! As expected, quite a few totally unaffordable Pars Hilton and David Beckham bling models were introduced........but most of them were garrish and ugly. So what the heck did Rolex give us this year from Basel 2009? Bugger all!!! Hey guys......just stick with your present collection and don't make the mistake of selling any!! The ONLY really SUPERB model to come out of Rolex in recent years is the GMT-IIC (and maybe the DSSD) - end of story......and end of this vent too!! JJ __________________ Words fail me in expressing my utmost thanks to ALL of you for this wonderful support during my hour of need!! I firmly believe that my time on planet earth is NOT yet up!! I shall fight this to the very end.......and WIN!!

17 April 2009, 04:18 AM	#3
Lion "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Leo Location: Midwest Watch: GMT-II 16710 PEPSI Posts: 21,461	JJ, you hit the head on the nail!!! __________________ SS GMT-II 16710 PEPSI(Z-serial#) THE ONLY DIFFERENCE BETWEEN MEN AND BOYS IS THE PRICE OF THE TOYS!!! MontBlanc Meisterstuck Doue Silver Barley MontBlanc Meisterstuck Solitaire Doue Signum Proud Card Carrying Member of the Curmudgeons.....Yikes!!!

17 April 2009, 04:22 AM	#9
davidm Member Join Date: Apr 2009 Real Name: David Moose Location: North Augusta S.C Watch: IWC Posts: 64	You, sir................... Are indeed, totaly correct!.............................David

17 April 2009, 04:20 AM	#10
Welshwatchman "TRF" Member Join Date: Apr 2006 Real Name: Paul Location: Wales, UK Posts: 14,578	For me the star of recent times is the Milgauss GV. The only Rolex I am actually looking forward to is a GMTc with a Pepsi or Coke bezel, preferably Coke just in case of Smurfication of the blue. __________________ ..33

17 April 2009, 04:31 AM	#23
wantonebad 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Nov 2007 Location: USA Watch: 126600, 116500LN Posts: 12,849	From what I've read JJ I have to agree with you, not just in general but specifically on each point. Next year will bring the new SS along with its balooning price, you'll need to take out a mortgage to buy one. This year saw no real surprises other then no surprises __________________ "I'm kind of a big deal... on a fairly irrelevant social media site that falsely inflates my fragile ego"

17 April 2009, 04:16 AM	#2
GerardoG Banned Join Date: Oct 2005 Real Name: Gerardo Location: Here Watch: ALL of them Posts: 32,098	Bravo jj!

17 April 2009, 04:21 AM	#12
postiff Member Join Date: Feb 2009 Real Name: Danny Location: Ca Watch: 116710LN Posts: 936	Ya you are right. The only thing that caught my eye for 30 seconds was the Tudor. Everything else was kina frightening and looked like my dog barfed it up. Glad I got my IIc and did not wait for anything special out of this years line up Danny <>

17 April 2009, 04:23 AM	#13
gettocard Banned Join Date: Dec 2008 Real Name: Andy Location: EU Watch: them come and go.. Posts: 2,052	don't complain people....just ugly Rolexes for tasteless new markets...Russia,China,Middle East....Rolex is doing what it has to do,you think they really care about westerner's man fine tastes and understatement ?? Don't worry ...new money comes fast and fly away fast,Rolex will be back on track in a couple of years.... Tudor showed some serious stuff tho..

17 April 2009, 10:49 AM	#16
Engi "TRF" Member Join Date: Jan 2008 Location: Everywhere Posts: 1,434	Don't worry JJ, the new DJ 41 mm (in more conventional colours) is nice, IMHO, and I guess it will be available soon in the AD shops also with the jubilee bracelet ... Ciao Engi P.S. I fully agree with you, the GMTIIC is the best Rolex of the last years, and for this reason I bought mine ...

17 April 2009, 04:42 AM	#24
Bisquitlips 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Sep 2008 Real Name: Richard Location: USA Watch: YM Deep Space Posts: 12,521	I must totally agree! What, in your Rolex collection, would you trade now for what came out in Basel this year? Me......... Nothing!!! JJ is completely correct, as usual! __________________ Rolex Yacht-Master 40mm (SS-YG / Deep Space MOP) 16623 Breitling Aerospace Titanium / 18K with UTC. Omega Speedmaster 3510.50 Oris TT1 Pro Diver Regulator 43MM

17 April 2009, 05:00 AM	#27
rajurama "TRF" Member Join Date: Oct 2008 Real Name: Rick Location: Wakanda Watch: amacallit Posts: 2,090	JJ I agree, however I feel once the new 41's start rolling in the showrooms and our forums with members I think it ll pick up, hopefully even in jubilees. It will have a similar either hate it or love it appeal just like the DSSD and daydate II, im sure the new tt sub will also grow into us!

17 April 2009, 05:34 AM	#29
2th Dr Banned Join Date: Jan 2009 Real Name: Mark-O! Location: Arlington, TX Watch: Rolex Posts: 12,714	And to think I almost past up buying my GMT IIC because I thought something better, like maybe a Pepsi ceramic, might come out of Basel 2009.

17 April 2009, 05:50 AM	#30
The GMT Master "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2008 Real Name: Chris Location: England Posts: 8,150	I have to disagree about the DJ II, the black baton dial almost made me have an accident in the trouser region.... But the Blue Sub is a definite miss, as far as I'm concerned.

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