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Old 20 August 2020, 10:53 AM   #1
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Hypothetical......If a new movement is introduced to the Submariner...

BIG IF.... Exactly what changes might be made to improve, said movement?
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Old 20 August 2020, 10:55 AM   #2
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Longer power reserve which you’d notice, buzzy other enhancements you wouldn’t
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Old 20 August 2020, 10:56 AM   #3
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Longer power reserve which you’d notice, buzzy other enhancements you wouldn’t
48 to 72?
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Old 20 August 2020, 10:59 AM   #4
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48 to 72?
Yeah, I'm thinking this would probably be the extent of it. The possibility of this didn't stop me from buying a Sub yesterday.
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:03 AM   #5
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Yeah, I'm thinking this would probably be the extent of it. The possibility of this didn't stop me from buying a Sub yesterday.
And a pat on the back to you! Congrats

Leads me to the question.....would you prefer before or after said change?
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:10 AM   #6
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And a pat on the back to you! Congrats

Leads me to the question.....would you prefer before or after said change?
Assuming that the power reserve was the only thing changed, then I would say after. This would only be because it was newer though, I mean do I actually need my watch to have a 72 power, not at all.
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:00 AM   #7
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70-hour reserve is probably the only tangible improvement to users I guess
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Old 21 August 2020, 01:20 AM   #8
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70-hour reserve is probably the only tangible improvement to users I guess
I agree, to bring it in line with other models.

I would be curious if they change anything else, if not the movement.
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:03 AM   #9
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:04 AM   #10
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:06 AM   #11
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48 to 70 and all those wanting it go 6 to 12.. drum roll and symbol

I’ll see myself out..
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Old 21 August 2020, 12:30 AM   #12
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48 to 70 and all those wanting it go 6 to 12.. drum roll and symbol

I’ll see myself out..

That joke was a real boner.


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Old 20 August 2020, 11:17 AM   #13
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Same improvements they made to any 32xx movement. Sub is just going to get 3235 for date version and probably 3230 for ND. 3235 will be same as anywhere where it is used. 3230 will be same but just without date.
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:21 AM   #14
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I'm actually not a fan of a "new" movement on an existing model, 3135 seemed to do well...
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Old 21 August 2020, 12:44 AM   #15
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I'm actually not a fan of a "new" movement on an existing model, 3135 seemed to do well...
There's been plenty of 31xx movement flaws during it's life. Many have been corrected, some persist as it's down to the way the movement is designed.

No movements are perfect. All will fail if given enough time. And it's profoundly unfair to compare a movement in it's first five years of circulation with another movement in it's (approx) last five years. It's the 'best' of one up against the 'worst' of the other.
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Old 21 August 2020, 05:37 AM   #16
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There's been plenty of 31xx movement flaws during it's life. Many have been corrected, some persist as it's down to the way the movement is designed.

No movements are perfect. All will fail if given enough time. And it's profoundly unfair to compare a movement in it's first five years of circulation with another movement in it's (approx) last five years. It's the 'best' of one up against the 'worst' of the other.
3235 is definitely not perfect, but the 2135 takes the lead in being the least perfect from the start. How many updates did that thing get over its lifetime?

Oh and let's not even mention the 2035, that thing is just a failure, almost as bad as ETA 2000
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:22 AM   #17
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Old 20 August 2020, 08:33 PM   #18
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Old 21 August 2020, 02:47 AM   #19
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You're the best. I was browsing YouTube the other night and came across your appearance at Pres Reagan's inaugural ball. LOL funny.
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Old 21 August 2020, 08:41 AM   #20
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:33 AM   #21
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Seems like there might be a couple other minor changes besides just the movement. But, if history repeats itself, they will start with PM only (platinum sub???), and not make changes to SS for two years.

What’s a lad to do if you are in the market for 116610? Sit tight, my dealer doesn’t have one for me right now anyway.
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:39 AM   #22
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Sub movement

One that required tapering of the bracelet lugs.
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:48 AM   #23
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One that required tapering of the bracelet lugs.

Yes, tapering the lugs will definitely make it run better. Cheers! Great idea. (No sarcasm; complete sincerity).

Only other meaningful change would be 70 hours. But 48 is plenty good and the 3135 performs quite well, thank you, Rolex!
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Old 21 August 2020, 07:45 AM   #24
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One that required tapering of the bracelet lugs.
There you go.
I knew somebody would mention it. AGAIN
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Old 20 August 2020, 11:47 AM   #25
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I think the new movement is almost a given with nothing different from the other models it is already in. I don’t really expect a revised case but I think there could be some other tweaks that will make people go nuts. Blue dial and bezel in SS? Oysterflex PM version?
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I think the new movement is almost a given with nothing different from the other models it is already in. I don’t really expect a revised case but I think there could be some other tweaks that will make people go nuts. Blue dial and bezel in SS? Oysterflex PM version?


This is interesting. So many say that Rolex only puts blue dials on PM. Yet, the 114200 and 300 have blue dials, and so does the yacht master, and the skydweller. All of which are sunburst nonetheless. I for one am not opposed to it with the sub! Imagine the waitlist!!
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Im ready to bet 100 bucks that new movement with 70hrs power reserve is introduced to the Sub.
Its the movement they use on the Datejust, easy move and expected!
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Old 20 August 2020, 08:58 PM   #28
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As others have said, eventually all Rolex will see the 33xx movement update.

As for other changes, I'll have to see what they are before I decide to add one. This old thing does me just fine



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Old 20 August 2020, 09:09 PM   #29
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As others have said, eventually all Rolex will see the 33xx movement update.

As for other changes, I'll have to see what they are before I decide to add one. This old thing does me just fine



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Simply gorgeous! I expect mine to be arriving in a day or two!!! No wait list, a single text to my SA and boom!
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Simply gorgeous! I expect mine to be arriving in a day or two!!! No wait list, a single text to my SA and boom!
That’s awesome Don, I truly hope you enjoy it as much as I do mine

I look forward to the incoming
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