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rafaquarius21 · 22 August 2020, 10:23 AM

Hello Everyone,
I am seriously considering buying an Explorer 1 with Mark ii dial. What are the wait times with the AD? I’ve considered pre-owned, but with prices around 7k and above, am I better off waiting and/or hunting for one with the AD? I’ve contacted AD’s in my area, but they seem to dissuade me and seem to want to point me to other models. What do do?

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Chewbacca · 22 August 2020, 10:26 AM

Order and wait or pay the premium or buy another brand until the Rolex arrives.

There’s MANY similar watches to the Explorer. And less than 1/2 the price.

Many.

Fleetlord · 22 August 2020, 03:46 PM

Without a prior purchase history with most dealers, this reference will no be attainable via that route.

peterpl · 22 August 2020, 03:52 PM

The few hundred bucks is NOT worth even 1 week of your time.

Just pay market value.

Its currently the WORST time to buy any watch imho. You know something seriously is going to burst soon when each and every single model is hot. Makes no sense at all. This model was never popular or strong at all.

I'm even seeing IWC/Omega etc.....all picking up in prices now. Absolute nuts.

Sandpit · 22 August 2020, 04:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by peterpl

The few hundred bucks is NOT worth even 1 week of your time.

Just pay market value.

Its currently the WORST time to buy any watch imho. You know something seriously is going to burst soon when each and every single model is hot. Makes no sense at all. This model was never popular or strong at all.

I'm even seeing IWC/Omega etc.....all picking up in prices now. Absolute nuts.

It is nuts, I agree. But people are generally spending less so it kinda makes sense.

LOWERCASE GUY · 22 August 2020, 07:10 PM

Be patient and wait it out with your AD would be my advice. You'll get offered one eventually. How long have you been waiting?

Any AD will point you in the direction of available stock instead.

BiG JeEzY · 22 August 2020, 07:17 PM

Just go pre-owned and save yourself from the waiting time for one to appear at an AD.

There are lots of Explorers on the grey market. Some in mint condition with stickers still intact.

csaltphoto · 23 August 2020, 02:24 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BiG JeEzY

Just go pre-owned and save yourself from the waiting time for one to appear at an AD.

There are lots of Explorers on the grey market. Some in mint condition with stickers still intact.

This. Looks like about a $1000 (less if you don't pay tax) premium on C24 with plenty of choices. One seller has 4. It could be a long wait at an AD with no history and not worth the aggravation IMHO.

Harry-57 · 22 August 2020, 07:21 PM

If you want it now you can buy it now. If you can wait, and you can find an AD who will put you on a list with a real expectation of delivery in X months/years, then you can sit tight and wait.

I've been in this situation twice. My AD's lists were closed. So I went grey. I have never gone grey for a watch I could get listed for. I don't mind waiting. Your mileage may vary.

RazorD · 22 August 2020, 07:23 PM

Do you see yourself wanting multiple watches in the future? If so, it’s worth waiting to start a relationship with your AD. If this is you’re one and only for some time, just pay the small premium and go secondary market. These aren’t too crazy above MSRP.

Great choice watch either way!

VegasMilgauss · 22 August 2020, 07:24 PM

With interest rates non existent and landlords getting screwed by legislation re evictions I imagine no crash soon, gold bullion and Rolex all the way.

rtalk · 23 August 2020, 02:07 AM

Wait times are really variable with this watch.

Some lucky folks even find them in the case on occasion. I had to wait a few months personally.

I’d get on a list. Wait six months. If you don’t hear back by then, buy from a gray dealer.

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Burlington · 23 August 2020, 10:54 PM

Hang in there and go via AD.

buckwheat · 23 August 2020, 10:57 PM

Plenty of watches available at good below retail AD prices.
Google Rolex for sale.
Start shopping
Don’t get hammered by a AD

Calatrava r · 23 August 2020, 11:12 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by buckwheat

Plenty of watches available at good below retail AD prices.
Google Rolex for sale.
Start shopping
Don’t get hammered by a AD

The SS sports line which is what many people look to buy are selling well over MSRP on the used market and are not available from ADs without a relationship. I welcome getting hammered by an AD for that BLNR I am looking for.

Calatrava r · 23 August 2020, 11:06 PM

I agree this is not a time to be a watch buyer, unless you can find at retail from an AD. Market is really hot. Everything Rolex is moving and prices grey are going up.
The current market demand reflects the pent up money that was not spent on travel, vacations, work attire and meals out, the 25 percent decrease in production this year from the factory closure and a flight to marketable goods due to currency uncertainness from crazy exchange rate changes and stimulus spending all over the planet.

brandrea · 23 August 2020, 11:19 PM

Relatively speaking, the up charge on that model isn’t too significant, so I’d go gray if you are impatient

TimeAZ · 23 August 2020, 11:37 PM

Good luck trying to get that one from an AD.

I got mine from a trusted seller and could not be happier.

22 August 2020, 10:23 AM	#1
rafaquarius21 "TRF" Member Join Date: Feb 2018 Location: Whittier Posts: 37	Frustrating Rolex Playbook Hello Everyone, I am seriously considering buying an Explorer 1 with Mark ii dial. What are the wait times with the AD? I’ve considered pre-owned, but with prices around 7k and above, am I better off waiting and/or hunting for one with the AD? I’ve contacted AD’s in my area, but they seem to dissuade me and seem to want to point me to other models. What do do? Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

22 August 2020, 07:10 PM	#6
LOWERCASE GUY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2020 Real Name: Mark Location: UK (North East) Watch: TT DJ41- champagne Posts: 441	Be patient and wait it out with your AD would be my advice. You'll get offered one eventually. How long have you been waiting? Any AD will point you in the direction of available stock instead. __________________ Looking at Rolex is like looking into direct sunlight, once you look, then look away you don’t see anything else - Jean-Claude Beaver

22 August 2020, 07:17 PM	#7
BiG JeEzY "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2007 Real Name: Jerome Location: N. California Watch: GMT I/EXP II/DJ Posts: 3,351	Just go pre-owned and save yourself from the waiting time for one to appear at an AD. There are lots of Explorers on the grey market. Some in mint condition with stickers still intact. __________________ -Rolex Explorer II Black dial 16570 (circa 2001) -Rolex GMT Master I Pepsi 1675 (circa 1978) -Rolex Datejust TT Champagne 16233 (circa 1991) -Vintage Longines Automatic La Grande Classique -Vintage Seiko 6138 Automatic Chronograph with "Kakume" Dial

23 August 2020, 02:07 AM	#12
rtalk "TRF" Member Join Date: Sep 2017 Location: Seattle Watch: 16710T Posts: 547	Wait times are really variable with this watch. Some lucky folks even find them in the case on occasion. I had to wait a few months personally. I’d get on a list. Wait six months. If you don’t hear back by then, buy from a gray dealer. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk __________________ 116519 Grey dial Oysterflex Daytona. 116500 Black. 116710BLNR. 16710T. Rolex Explorer I 39MM. 4 digit DateJust. JLC Master Control with Sector Dial. Omega FOIS. Grand Seiko Four Seasons (Spring Version). Tudor Royal. IWC Cal 83 (~1940s). 41MM sub. Omega CK859.

23 August 2020, 10:54 PM	#13
Burlington "TRF" Member Join Date: Nov 2017 Location: Europe Posts: 5,643	Hang in there and go via AD. __________________ “My tastes are simple; I am easily satisfied with the best.” ― Winston S. Churchill

22 August 2020, 10:26 AM	#2
Chewbacca Banned Join Date: May 2012 Real Name: CJ Location: Kashyyyk Watch: Kessel Run Chrono Posts: 21,112	Order and wait or pay the premium or buy another brand until the Rolex arrives. There’s MANY similar watches to the Explorer. And less than 1/2 the price. Many.

22 August 2020, 03:46 PM	#3
Fleetlord 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: May 2013 Location: Vain Posts: 6,023	Without a prior purchase history with most dealers, this reference will no be attainable via that route.

22 August 2020, 03:52 PM	#4
peterpl Banned Join Date: Aug 2012 Location: . Posts: 6,692	The few hundred bucks is NOT worth even 1 week of your time. Just pay market value. Its currently the WORST time to buy any watch imho. You know something seriously is going to burst soon when each and every single model is hot. Makes no sense at all. This model was never popular or strong at all. I'm even seeing IWC/Omega etc.....all picking up in prices now. Absolute nuts.

22 August 2020, 07:21 PM	#9
Harry-57 2024 Pledge Member Join Date: Apr 2018 Real Name: Harry Location: England Posts: 10,681	If you want it now you can buy it now. If you can wait, and you can find an AD who will put you on a list with a real expectation of delivery in X months/years, then you can sit tight and wait. I've been in this situation twice. My AD's lists were closed. So I went grey. I have never gone grey for a watch I could get listed for. I don't mind waiting. Your mileage may vary.

22 August 2020, 07:23 PM	#10
RazorD "TRF" Member Join Date: Dec 2010 Real Name: David Location: New England Posts: 1,888	Do you see yourself wanting multiple watches in the future? If so, it’s worth waiting to start a relationship with your AD. If this is you’re one and only for some time, just pay the small premium and go secondary market. These aren’t too crazy above MSRP. Great choice watch either way!

22 August 2020, 07:24 PM	#11
VegasMilgauss "TRF" Member Join Date: Jul 2018 Location: UK Posts: 1,030	With interest rates non existent and landlords getting screwed by legislation re evictions I imagine no crash soon, gold bullion and Rolex all the way.

23 August 2020, 10:57 PM	#14
buckwheat Banned Join Date: May 2014 Location: Nola Posts: 75	Plenty of watches available at good below retail AD prices. Google Rolex for sale. Start shopping Don’t get hammered by a AD

23 August 2020, 11:06 PM	#16
Calatrava r 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Mar 2017 Location: United States Watch: Rolex and Patek Posts: 11,425	I agree this is not a time to be a watch buyer, unless you can find at retail from an AD. Market is really hot. Everything Rolex is moving and prices grey are going up. The current market demand reflects the pent up money that was not spent on travel, vacations, work attire and meals out, the 25 percent decrease in production this year from the factory closure and a flight to marketable goods due to currency uncertainness from crazy exchange rate changes and stimulus spending all over the planet.

23 August 2020, 11:19 PM	#17
brandrea 2024 SubLV41 Pledge Member Join Date: Jul 2013 Real Name: Brian (TBone) Location: canada Watch: es make me smile Posts: 78,126	Relatively speaking, the up charge on that model isn’t too significant, so I’d go gray if you are impatient

23 August 2020, 11:37 PM	#18
TimeAZ "TRF" Member Join Date: May 2020 Location: USA Watch: Rolex & Tudor Posts: 2,240	Good luck trying to get that one from an AD. I got mine from a trusted seller and *could not be happier. __________________ The perfect blossom is a rare thing. You could spend your life looking for one, and it would not be a wasted life.*

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