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Old 19 April 2009, 04:23 AM   #1
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I want to open it so bad

I just purchased my first Rolex DJ and i want to open it and look in side, i sthere any way to do this.
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Old 19 April 2009, 04:26 AM   #2
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Unscrew the caseback but be sure to use the right tool or one of those soft caseback balls they work great and never a chance of marking it up.
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Old 19 April 2009, 04:29 AM   #3
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soft caseback ball? im sorry im really new at this
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Old 19 April 2009, 04:35 AM   #4
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soft caseback ball? im sorry im really new at this
I can't remember the name brand but they work great. Google it you find a bunch of them run about $20 I think maybe less. But like JJ said if you don't know what your doing why open it.
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Old 19 April 2009, 04:44 AM   #5
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Here you go bro.

http://www.ofrei.com/page1226.html
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Old 19 April 2009, 04:29 AM   #6
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I just purchased my first Rolex DJ and i want to open it and look in side, i sthere any way to do this.
Why would you want to do that?

Without the right tools, expertise, know-how or experience, you are asking for trouble.

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Old 19 April 2009, 01:30 PM   #7
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Why would you want to do that?

Without the right tools, expertise, know-how or experience, you are asking for trouble.

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Exactly JJ, why?

All AD's have the proper tools, know how and pressure testing equipment to open the caseback.

Wait till you do the 5 year service and let your watch tech open it in front of you, there's plenty of pics on the world wide web to get a look inside.
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Old 19 April 2009, 01:34 PM   #8
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I agree. Plus, there must be some photos of that movement somewhere on TRF (or even on Rolex's website).
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Old 19 April 2009, 01:48 PM   #9
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Exactly JJ, why?

All AD's have the proper tools, know how and pressure testing equipment to open the caseback.

Wait till you do the 5 year service and let your watch tech open it in front of you, there's plenty of pics on the world wide web to get a look inside.
Next time you are at your AD, ask to see the 'Special Digital Rolex Torque Wrench' that they use to torque the caseback. Also ask to see the pressure tester they use to test a Rolex Submariner. Note that I said 'pressure tester' not a toy 'one atmosphere vacuum pump'.
I have seen many videos of casebacks being removed but I have never seen a torque wrench used when the case back was replaced?
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Old 19 April 2009, 01:52 PM   #10
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Eddie, I've seen the pressure tester thats to be used to test all Rolex watches including the SDDS, $10k.

Hold on to that $3 caseback remover, the ball version.

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Old 19 April 2009, 05:22 PM   #11
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Eddie, I've seen the pressure tester thats to be used to test all Rolex watches including the SDDS, $10k.

Hold on to that $3 caseback remover, the ball version.
That >5500psi pressure tester would have been worth seeing.
How many AD's would have one.

Most AD's in Australia would send your Rolex to Rolex Australia to have a link put on.
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Old 19 April 2009, 04:34 AM   #12
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when your right, your right. i just want to learn more about the watches
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Old 19 April 2009, 04:46 AM   #13
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Old 19 April 2009, 05:04 AM   #14
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Course, glad I could help you.

Hey for $9 thats a great deal.
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Old 19 April 2009, 05:02 PM   #15
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Course, glad I could help you.

Hey for $9 thats a great deal.
Remember its only a great deal if you know how to put the back on properly and don't wreck the watch.
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Old 19 April 2009, 05:18 AM   #16
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If you open the case back and close it properly, is the watch still water-proof?
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Old 19 April 2009, 05:21 AM   #17
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If you open the case back and close it properly, is the watch still water-proof?
In most cases, yes.....unless you manage to twist or distort the gasket inside the case.

But what is really important is the fact that a professional watchmaker knows how much torque to apply when screwing down the case. Not sure about the repurcussions if this part of the operation is NOT carried out in tune with Rolex specifications.

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Old 19 April 2009, 05:28 AM   #18
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In my opinion NEVER open your Watch!!!!!

Let the pros do it and ask to see when you need service or adjustment.....even if you are careful it is my understanding that this is to be done in a controled DUST Free environment.....even in that case there are posts here from time to time with "dust Spec" under the crystal.

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Old 19 April 2009, 05:35 AM   #19
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I have opened every watch I ever owned. I have all of the correct tools, and a watch maker that is willing to pressure test them any time I feel like it.
I attempted to disprove a theory a few months ago about opening a factory sealed Rolex with a ball of duct tape. I thought there was NO WAY this could be done...
Well, not only was it done... But it was done fairly easily. The 16610 that I have opened with fairly little effort, and it SHOULD HAVE BEEN still factory sealed (unless someone at the AD had opened it).
My biggest fear has never been OPENING the watch, but accidentally hacking something up while it is open.
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Old 19 April 2009, 05:55 AM   #20
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I got a better idea, find some pics to look at.

You have a good chance of screwing up the gasket, heck some suggest always replacing the gasket after opening. You also have a good chance of getting dust or other crap it in. Plus, you're going to have to buy a fairly pricey tool to do it right, that if you're smart, you won't use again.

Last of all, their beauty is mostly functional. Rolex doesn't spend much enerny on making them "purrty."
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Old 20 April 2009, 12:45 PM   #21
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I got a better idea, find some pics to look at.

You have a good chance of screwing up the gasket, heck some suggest always replacing the gasket after opening. You also have a good chance of getting dust or other crap it in. Plus, you're going to have to buy a fairly pricey tool to do it right, that if you're smart, you won't use again.

Last of all, their beauty is mostly functional. Rolex doesn't spend much enerny on making them "purrty."
Tiny pieces of dust that you can't see with your naked eye are not going to hurt the movement. All watches have micro-dust pieces inside them. These micro particles are definitely not going to stop the gears from moving - they just cause wear over a long period of time. But this is why we get our watches serviced every five years - every part gets cleaned.

Replacing the gasket every time after opening is totally unnecessary. You replace the gasket if the watch doesn't pass the pressure test and there's no other reason for the pressure "leak" (which would mean the gasket is worn out). I've never replaced any of the gaskets in my watches after closing them, and they've always passed the pressure test.
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Old 20 April 2009, 12:29 PM   #22
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I have opened every watch I ever owned. I have all of the correct tools, and a watch maker that is willing to pressure test them any time I feel like it.
I attempted to disprove a theory a few months ago about opening a factory sealed Rolex with a ball of duct tape. I thought there was NO WAY this could be done...
Well, not only was it done... But it was done fairly easily. The 16610 that I have opened with fairly little effort, and it SHOULD HAVE BEEN still factory sealed (unless someone at the AD had opened it).
My biggest fear has never been OPENING the watch, but accidentally hacking something up while it is open.
x2. I've opened a few of my watches too. It's not a big deal guys. Just make sure no big pieces of dust fall in, and put the gasket back in correctly - you'll know if the gasket is incorrectly seated if the back doesn't screw in all the way or (in the case of pop-off casebacks) it's just impossible to pop it back in. You can always get it pressure tested to make sure you did everything correctly.

I think everyone should know how to take off the caseback of their watch to periodically check it for dust deposits. Contrary to popular belief, chunks of dust or lint will work itself inside the case eventually even if it's pressure proof. Don't ask me how, but one time I found a big chunk of dust on the rotor of my Tissot and I only noticed it because the caseback is see-through. It was literally stuck on the outer edge of the rotor. So naturally I popped off the back and cleaned it out. Now what would have happened if I didn't have a see-through caseback? I would have never known it was there, so this is why you should check the inside of your watch periodically.
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Old 19 April 2009, 07:06 AM   #23
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I just purchased my first Rolex DJ and i want to open it and look in side, i sthere any way to do this.
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Old 19 April 2009, 07:36 AM   #24
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Old 19 April 2009, 12:26 PM   #25
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X3, X4, X5.

Stay out of your Rolex. If you are curious about watchmaking there are plenty of cheap movements out there that you can play with.

Here are a couple of eta movements on ebay at $3.99 right now.

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be careful opening the back...3 springs comes out...the small screws fly...the gasket snaps...so be very very careful.....
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Old 19 April 2009, 01:29 PM   #27
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if i were you let the pros do it...go to AD.
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Old 19 April 2009, 01:49 PM   #28
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I am more than content being able to listen to my own movements and looking at pictures of others if I want to see what's inside.

There used to be a Rolex ad. or a page in a booklet I am pretty sure which showed a watch with the caseback removed, the text went something along the lines of "take a good look at the movement, it's the only time you'll see it", kind of meaning it's there, it works perfectly and really only us should be going in there....I agree with them....to all you guys who know what you are doing, I am jealous, I'd love to see my movements and I am so please you can put posts up that allow us to see yours, however I am restrained enough to know I am not qualified to be in there....

Leave it be and stick to pictures, most are excellent......
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Every time I buy a new car I take the engine apart and find it rather amusing to look inside ...
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